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08-14-2006, 12:01 AM
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Rangers Stats Projections for 06-07 season

3 Michal Rozsival D 5 30 35 80 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 6 25 31 99 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 25 35 60 50 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 2 10 12 119 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 3 15 18 60 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 45 50 95 115 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 12 15 27 66 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 20 15 35 100 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 10 5 15 30 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 10 40 50 60 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 35 25 60 20 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 1 1 2 205 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 8 8 16 67 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 10 8 18 145 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 9 30 39 60 pim
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 55 70 125 40 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 15 20 35 50 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 30 40 70 40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 25 60 85 40 pim

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08-14-2006, 12:04 AM
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Very generous. How will Orr and Hollweg get so many PIMs while Hossa gets so many points when they will all be fighting for the same roster spot? Also, can you really expect career years from 2/3 of the roster?

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The two things that stood out:

Straka getting 30 goals
Orr getting 1 goal.

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3 Michal Rozsival D 5 30 35 80 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 6 25 31 99 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 25 35 60 50 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 2 10 12 119 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 3 15 18 60 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 33 40 73 115 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 12 15 27 66 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 20 15 35 100 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 10 5 15 30 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 10 40 50 60 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 32 22 54 20 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 1 1 2 205 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 8 8 16 67 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 10 8 18 145 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 9 30 39 60 pim
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 48 65 112 40 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 15 20 35 50 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 25 35 60 40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 25 47 72 40 pim

That'd be my guess.

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08-14-2006, 12:28 AM
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Jagr nets 45,Shanny nets 35,Straka 30,Nylander 25

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3 Michal Rozsival D 4 32 36 88 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 2 26 28 86 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 24 39 65 62 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 1 11 12 109 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 3 25 28 66 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 38 36 74 99 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 10 15 25 54 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 19 15 34 104 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 10 5 15 40 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 8 40 48 78 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 32 20 52 24 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 0 0 0 35 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 6 6 12 60 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 8 10 18 125 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 13 37 50 64 pim
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 47 66 113 58 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 7 9 16 30 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 23 42 65 40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 28 50 78 56 pim

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08-14-2006, 03:18 AM
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The one I find funny is Kasparitis scoring 2 goals

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3 Michal Rozsival D 5-20-25-80 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 5-15-20 90 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 20-20-40-50 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 1-5-6-119 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 2-13-15-72 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 35-25-60 95 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 10-15-25-66 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 20-15-30-80 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 4-6-10-30 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 10-25-35-60 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 35-20-55-30 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 25GP 0-1-1-68 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 5-7-12-67 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 10-10-20 110 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 35GP 7-13-20 20 pim *injury - forgive me!
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 45-60-105-45 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 40GP 10-18-28-20 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 15-45-60-40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 15-60-75-60 pim

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3 Michal Rozsival D 5 30 35 80 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 6 25 31 99 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 25 35 60 50 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 2 10 12 119 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 3 15 18 60 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 45 50 95 115 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 12 15 27 66 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 20 15 35 100 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 10 5 15 30 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 10 40 50 60 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 35 25 60 20 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 1 1 2 205 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 8 8 16 67 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 10 8 18 145 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 9 30 39 60 pim
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 55 70 125 40 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 15 20 35 50 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 30 40 70 40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 25 60 85 40 pim
Aaron Ward with 31 points? Four fewer than Rozsival? Based on...

Ward has never approached 30 points and Rozsival will likely be playing with Jagr.

One other thing, if your PIMs projection play out, the PK better be good.

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Wow...

326 goals...which would've been more than any team in the league last season.

It will be real difficult for Shanny, Jagr, Straka and Prucha to get that type of production. Somebody's production will be hurt (I don't really see a way Prucha gets 35 goals this season - 25, perhaps, but 35?).

There may be other flaws, but it's difficult to predict each person's assists and goals (since the assists and goals somehow have to jive), and there's the notion of who's playing with whom, etc. I applaud you for going through the entire exercise. For me, it's 100% up in the air. I (we) don't know how anybody except for Jagr will be played this season. And in Jagr, while we all hope he plays 82 games, there's a chance he doesn't, which makes it even thougher saying what he can score. I do believe that his points, in any scenario, will be less than last season. I think goals scored overall, league-wide will be less than last season. Perhaps not significantly less, but less.

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I dunno, Singin'...

the projection for Rozsival is for a decrease in PIMs, or in other words, less minors. So that should be a net positive. I think AHall is looking for some majors.

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the projection for Rozsival is for a decrease in PIMs, or in other words, less minors. So that should be a net positive. I think AHall is looking for some majors.
Yeah but there's more for Kaspar and more with Ward and Shanahan.

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The two things that stood out:

Straka getting 30 goals
Orr getting 1 goal.

Orr scores. That's easy. The puck bounces off his head and into the net. And it can happen. I agree though that AHall is a little bit high with his assessments.

D-Tyutin might be in the 35-40 range. He might fall under 30. Roszival and Rachunek will be the same. Malik I expect will be somewhere around 20 points and Ward 15-20. Kaspar around 10.

At forward depending on how his rehab is going Jagr might be able to hit for 125 points again. If he is in the 75 games played range he should hit for 100 anyway.
Straka and Nylander's numbers if they're on the same line should be in the 65-75 range again. I don't think Cullen is going to put up 65 points. 50-55 might be pushing it but seems more reasonable. Shanahan will be in the Straka and Nylander point range only he'll score more goals. Prucha if healthy should put up numbers like he did last year. Ward and Hall should be good for 30 each--maybe more depending on the kind of linemates they have--not Betts who is a 4th liner. Of the others it's hard to say yet what an Immonen will produce. I would like to think Hollweg could do more but I'm not sure that will happen and I think Ort's numbers will be about the same as last year. Hossa is a wildcard. He has more upside but he's got to want to do it and he runs out of chances with us this year. It's either sink or swim for him.


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Fighting majors...

It's going to be a rough season. Heck, 205 PIMs for Orr? That's 41 fights - and in 45 games! Bench-clearing brawls, misconducts, the works - it all adds up!

Projecting an entire team's stats for a season is a lot longer task than sitting at a computer and saying, I think this guy can do this and that. What you can do is say, if this guy plays 82 games, and if he's able to get X minutes, and play with Y and Z on his line, and get this many PP time, then his stats could be N. As we know, getting X, Y and Z to determine N is a huge mathematical equation none of us want to get into. Personally, I can give estimated points, etc., based on individual controlled scenarios - doing the whole team is too difficult to get to a point where the numbers tie.

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considering that 16 of Prucha's goals were scored on the PP, almost each one from Jagr, I'd have a hard time penciling in Prucha for even 1/2 those goals this season, as a good amount of them will be Shanny's. Even strength is tough to tell since we don't know where he ends up. My guess would be he doesn't reach 30 again this season based on a lighter, and less prominent role on the power play.

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Fletch...

good point that PP's PP goals likely won't be as high this year, but with a more prominant role on the second line and (crossing fingers) more than 70 games played, he really could net 30.

And (not you, Fletch) Straka is NOT scoring 30 goals. It took a late-in-the-season hatty to get him to 20 last year.

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I obviously hope he can...

I like the kid a lot (he's hard not to like). But very often with goal scorers is they need to be in the game, getting lots of shots, and the PP does help with the feel for the net, and with keeping up the confidence. If Shanny moves to the right and Prucha plays that second line role, some of the effects from not playing the PP will be mitigated. I still think 30 goals may be tough and his only chance to get that would be on the right, while playing with Shanny.

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considering that 16 of Prucha's goals were scored on the PP, almost each one from Jagr, I'd have a hard time penciling in Prucha for even 1/2 those goals this season, as a good amount of them will be Shanny's. Even strength is tough to tell since we don't know where he ends up. My guess would be he doesn't reach 30 again this season based on a lighter, and less prominent role on the power play.
Fletch--I kind of think though that unless he gets injured again he'll be around that kind of marker. Somehow I see him getting his share of pwp time. The one thing about him last year was he found a way--not all that unlike Gionta was doing with New Jersey. His history in the Czech league was not that of a natural goal scorer however last year he looked like one to me--the guy has an array of shots and a lightning release--he finds openings in the slot--he's not afraid to take a beating to score a dirty goal. Considering the amount of games he missed altogether and the amount especially early on when he didn't get much ice time and considering the last 6 weeks or so of the season when he was playing on pretty much one leg with any luck he could have got 10 more than he did. It just didn't work out that way. In any case although Straka will probably get the bulk of ice time on Jagr's left wing I think we will see Prucha there at least some of the time.

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I don't disagree...

but if I had to estimate, I would put the number of goals he scored playing with Jagr at around 20. That's a lot, even being healthy. He will get PP time, but Shanahan, most likely, will dominate the #1 minutes and it's tough to imagine a second unit PP guy getting 16 goals (which is what he got last season), especially if the first unit is clicking. I agree there are many ways to look at it. His 30 were scored while not playing much in the first several weeks, and also playing a fair amount of time with Betts and Ward, so there is plenty of room for him to make up for the less first line PP time and get to 30 goals. It's my gut that he will get less than that though. If he was getting #1 PP time, I'd sign up for 30 in a minute. It's a lot of goals to score. I also agree that he may play with Jagr some. Whether it's a game or ten, I don't know, but it's too much of a wildcard to count on much from that right now. Shanny will likely play with him at some point, or at some points, also. There's plenty of permutations to go around, and plenty of wildcards.

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Let's go a little more in depth here.

I project that next season JOrts/AHall will start 112 threads that include an incredibly terrible trade proposal.

Now will Jagr's point total be over or under this number?

My projections say under.

But the scoring is picked up by other players on the roster. I project M Cullen to have a breakout season.

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i am almost of the mindset that Cullen will work some magic this season..

at least my Dynasty in NHL 06 says so..

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3 Michal Rozsival D 5-20-25-80 pim
4 Aaron Ward D 5-15-20 90 pim
5 Matt Cullen C 20-20-40-50 pim
6 Darius Kasparaitis D 1-5-6-119 pim
8 Marek Malik Defense 2-13-15-72 pim
14 Brendan Shanahan 35-25-60 95 pim
16 Jason Ward Forward 10-15-25-66 pim
18 Adam Hall Right Wing 20-15-30-80 pim
19 Blair Betts Center 4-6-10-30 pim
23 Karel Rachunek Defense 10-25-35-60 pim
25 Petr Prucha Forward 35-20-55-30 pim
28 Colton Orr Right Wing 25GP 0-1-1-68 pim
41 Jed Ortmeyer Forward 5-7-12-67 pim
44 Ryan Hollweg Center 10-10-20 110 pim
51 Fedor Tyutin D 35GP 7-13-20 20 pim *injury - forgive me!
68 Jaromir Jagr RW 45-60-105-45 pim
81 Marcel Hossa RW 40GP 10-18-28-20 pim
82 Martin Straka LW 15-45-60-40 pim
92 Michael Nylander Center 15-60-75-60 pim
I think this is probably the closest. These numbers are very close if not right on with what i'd venture to guess.

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i am almost of the mindset that Cullen will work some magic this season..

at least my Dynasty in NHL 06 says so..
Hah.. at the same time Shanny sucks in 06. He's way too slow.

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