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08-18-2006, 07:28 PM
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Latest on Ryder?

Is he fully recovered from his supposed "herniated disc"?

I was just thinking. If he scored 30 this season while injured, is 40 out of reach this season?

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08-18-2006, 07:31 PM
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If he play a lot of PP play and both ES with Saku more then 70 games with another good foward who can opportunity to score...( Like Higgins for sure ).

Yeah he can.

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Is he fully recovered from his supposed "herniated disc"?

I was just thinking. If he scored 30 this season while injured, is 40 out of reach this season?

what do u mean Supposed?

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what do u mean Supposed?
Well it was rumored that he had a herniated disc.

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I would love if he put up 40+
And he had to be injured he just did not play with the same swagger as he did in his rookie year!

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He should have got an operation. Those kind of injuries tend to come back.

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He should have got an operation. Those kind of injuries tend to come back.
guess he'll wait for his long term contract till surgery

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like bouillon?

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like bouillon?
haha

yup

coincidence?

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haha

yup

coincidence?

yes. I am confident bouillon played at 100% of his capacities most of last year...

he was last year and will be this year at the top of his hockey abilities; I believe he was injured in the playoffs or maybe a little before

as for Ryder I really think he can do fourty, only if he get back to the basis of his type of game; he looked like he wanted to do too much at some point last year. he needs to get back that move of entering the zione, cutting to center in front of the defensmens and wrisles from the circle...

He is a natural goal scorer; the best to scores lucky goals, rebounds etc... plus he has one of the best wrist shot in the league....yes I think he can score 40, maybe even more...

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08-19-2006, 10:37 AM
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i really don't think he will... i don't expect more than 25 this season... actually, you know what... i don't even expect him to play for the Canadiens at all... he'll get traded within the next 2 months!

just my opinion

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I think we will se the good ol'Ryder from his first season, driving to the net and not being affraid of physical contacts, going to the boards. He'll be in the same shape as his first season, but he had experience from two seasons. Even though he was not in top shape, he manage to find a new way to play and still score 30 goals, I expect to see an hybrid of the first season ryder and the second season one.. and it will make him a 40 goal scorer...

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08-19-2006, 12:15 PM
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yes. I am confident bouillon played at 100% of his capacities most of last year...

he was last year and will be this year at the top of his hockey abilities; I believe he was injured in the playoffs or maybe a little before

as for Ryder I really think he can do fourty, only if he get back to the basis of his type of game; he looked like he wanted to do too much at some point last year. he needs to get back that move of entering the zione, cutting to center in front of the defensmens and wrisles from the circle...

He is a natural goal scorer; the best to scores lucky goals, rebounds etc... plus he has one of the best wrist shot in the league....yes I think he can score 40, maybe even more...
most rumors was that he was playing injured since 3 years

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08-19-2006, 01:56 PM
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I see Ryder being a 35-40g guy but no more. He has great scoring instincts but his skill level isn't as high as some other "snipers" who can get to 50.

He's a bit like Brett Hull.. great shot and great instincts, but he isn't a great skater/stickhandler or passer.

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guess he'll wait for his long term contract till surgery
Good one

Seriously though, I think this will be Ryder's last year in a hab jersey.

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Ryder could score that many, just needs to work on his skating.

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If he can finish all plays like at his rookie year, got great oopotunity like at his somophore, play with Koivu and Higgins or another good winger more then 70 games. No doubt Ryder can put 40 goals, 45 at his best.

I'm not a great fan of him, but we got to admit, he's got a scoring touch that nobody in the team have, or similar to the Higgins end of year. Kovalev got a awesome wirst shot, Samsonov can score etc etc, but Ryder is able and got a "quality" to put a lot of garbage goal.

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08-19-2006, 04:34 PM
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No doubt Ryder can put 40 goals, 45 at his best.
You seriously overrate him. I'd be very surprised if the guy ever reached 35 goals, let alone 40+ goals. That is unless he plays with a Crosby, Forsberg or Thornton of course.

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This is kind of ridiculous to me, all these people saying that he's not that great, oh but he could pot 40... or I'm not a big fan, but I think he can score 45 goals. I find that crazy, do you know how many players score 40 goals? Last year there were less than 15! And people are talking about trading him, whos making less than 3 million, getting estimates of 30 goals, and people still aren't happy with what we have in Ryder, who is still under 30, cheap, very productive, seems to love Montreal, and is only in his second season in the NHL.

Point of this post, I hope this isn't the general attitude of Hab fans and that Ryder gets respect for what he brings to this hockey club!

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yes. I am confident bouillon played at 100% of his capacities most of last year...

he was last year and will be this year at the top of his hockey abilities; I believe he was injured in the playoffs or maybe a little before

as for Ryder I really think he can do fourty, only if he get back to the basis of his type of game; he looked like he wanted to do too much at some point last year. he needs to get back that move of entering the zione, cutting to center in front of the defensmens and wrisles from the circle...

He is a natural goal scorer; the best to scores lucky goals, rebounds etc... plus he has one of the best wrist shot in the league....yes I think he can score 40, maybe even more...
i was kidding about bouillon

i like him and im glad he stayed as a hab

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You seriously overrate him. I'd be very surprised if the guy ever reached 35 goals, let alone 40+ goals. That is unless he plays with a Crosby, Forsberg or Thornton of course.
30 goals in his 2nd season... whatever you may say, you dont see many of those..

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30 goals in his 2nd season
So what if it was his second season? That doesn't mean he still has a lot of room to improve. The guy is 26, he likely won't improve much more, if at all.

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okk...
and why is that?
he scored 30 goals while playin with Dagenais at some point !
Maybe with a non herniated disc and playin with Koivu and Higgins I think he could get the 40 in a good year
I really hope he comes back in a great shape to proove all the haters wrong

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I'll be happy if he can repeat a 30 goal performance and not play like the worst 30 goal scorer of all-time.

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he scored 30 goals while playin with Dagenais at some point !
So what? The periods he scored the least were when Dagenais was already out of the lineup. Dagenais didn't even play 10 minutes per game anyway. When Ryder was on the ice, Dagenais wasn't always playing with him.

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Maybe with a non herniated disc
The whole herniated disc thing is getting old. If Ryder was capable of playing with such an injury, then it is clear that it didn't bother him much.

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and playin with Koivu and Higgins I think he could get the 40 in a good year
Koivu isn't Forsberg.


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