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08-24-2006, 09:55 AM
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Pock Resigns with the Rangers

According to Bird---ala Hartford Courant---

http://www.courant.com/sports/hockey...adlines-hockey

Pock may play in his native Austria this season--due to being unsigned. I think he needs some more experience, but overall, I was really excited to see Pock and the offense he brings, on the big club..... I dont understand why he wouldn't be signed. Are we too deep in D? Is B-Ozo coming back sooner than expected?? Will this fuel more rumors of a certain someone who plays D coming back?? Stay tuned true believers---same bat place, same bat channel.

--footnote--- I really hope this is bull and he gets signed soon. I think he's like a young Zidlicky..he'll be a great assest in the future---with some more development...granted. Sound off.

PPS---what ever happened to pisa?? I thought he had renewed interest in NYR??


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08-24-2006, 10:21 AM
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The team can never be too deep at D, but from Pocks perspective the recent additions to the team may be seen as delaying his shot at the NHL

I won't be surprised to see you know who return to contribute and finish the career with one more cup


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08-24-2006, 10:46 AM
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As much as certain Ranger fans feel the sentimental urges to bring back Leetch, i just dont see it happening.

Hes old, aging and not the same. Though im not huge fans of Rachunek and Roszival, i would much rather have those young guys beck there than making a deal to fit in Leetch.

Besides Leetch said he is thinking about signing with a true contender and lets be honest, the Rangers have a pretty good lineup, but know one can say they are a true contender until half the seasons over and we all see how they mesh and how healthy Jagr is.

I cant see how the non-signing of Pock relates to a possible Leetch signing, besides in my mind there 2 or 3 better dmen prospects the Rangers have, that id rather see in the lineup.

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08-24-2006, 10:48 AM
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As much as certain Ranger fans feel the sentimental urges to bring back Leetch, i just dont see it happening.

Hes old, aging and not the same. Though im not huge fans of Rachunek and Roszival, i would much rather have those young guys beck there than making a deal to fit in Leetch.

Besides Leetch said he is thinking about signing with a true contender and lets be honest, the Rangers have a pretty good lineup, but know one can say they are a true contender until half the seasons over and we all see how they mesh and how healthy Jagr is.
Wrong thread, no?

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08-24-2006, 10:52 AM
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Leetch said he is thinking about signing with a true contender and lets be honest, the Rangers have a pretty good lineup, but know one can say they are a true contender until half the seasons over and we all see how they mesh
We can say that about any team. Anything can happen.

resigning Leetch will be a controversal move. As many supporters as detractors.

The thing is we STILL don't have that Dominant D man QB, unless you count Ozo who can rack up almost as many points for the other team as he does for us.

Without Leetch, Ozo will be tempting again come the crunch time if we have not addressed the issue and it's still a problem. Hopefully we will be getting scoring off three lines and it won't be such a need as it appeared to be last season


PS It would be interesting to see Staal get some ice time with Leetch as a partner. Wishfully a passing of the torch from one future Hall of Famer to Another

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Sad to to see him going back in Europe because he seemed to have all the tools. Still, at his age, he should see NHL time and not AHL one.... this guy didn't look to me to be a future John Slaney. He belongs to the NHL.... hopefully he could be traded to a rebuilding team like Pittsburg, Washington or Toronto.

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the rangers have made it clear that pock isn't part of the plans and they don't think he's part of the future. if they did they would have left a spot open with him. as it stands we have malik, rozsival, tyutin, kaspar, ward and rachunek as the top 6.

that leaves pock in the position to fight martin richter and others for the right to sit in the press box and watch as the 7th dman or go back to hartford where he makes alot less $$.

from pock's point of view, if he isn't gonna play in the nhl then why not go home and play in europe were he can make more $$ than he does in the AHL and be with his family?

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08-24-2006, 11:35 AM
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He belongs to the NHL.... hopefully he could be traded to a rebuilding team like Pittsburg

Pock for Malkin Straight Up


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At some point could it just be that Pock doesn't look like he can play defense at the NHL level?

Despite all the wishful thinking, maybe just maybe the Rangers see the same things some of us non-Pock fans see?

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At some point could it just be that Pock doesn't look like he can play defense at the NHL level?

Despite all the wishful thinking, maybe just maybe the Rangers see the same things some of us non-Pock fans see?
Still, weren't the Rangers playing with 5 forwards on their first PP unit??? Pock would have help there I guess.

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time to do some asset management and trade him for something...anything...

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I'm with Edge...

while depth is good, he won't be terribly missed while playing in Austria.

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regarding leetch, i think he can still contribute greatly. He doesn't have to come in and be a huge impact player or a go to guy. If he just played a simple game, he cold still be really effective. I would love to see him quarterback a power play with jagr and shanahan on each circle.

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Rangers PP Unit #1

Shanahan Prucha Jagr

Leetch Cullen


Man that looks good on paper

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Rangers PP Unit #1

Shanahan Prucha Jagr

Leetch Cullen


Man that looks good on paper
Id rather have this:

Straka Nylander Jagr
Leetch Rachunek

Shanahan Prucha Hall
Cullen Tyutin

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Rangers PP Unit #1

Shanahan Prucha Jagr

Leetch Cullen


Man that looks good on paper
Until you realize that the average age of that unit is 33 years old.

And thats with a 23 year old in there.

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This is not a Leetch thread!

Maybe I'm blind, but Pock never looked like a major defensive liability in his handful of NHL games to me. What I saw was a player who earned a closer look that never came.

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Lol the geriatric unit

No one will be laughing if they put up numbers

Sans Leetch you might have FOUR 30+ goal guys on your PP unit

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This is not a Leetch thread!

Maybe I'm blind, but Pock never looked like a major defensive liability in his handful of NHL games to me. What I saw was a player who earned a closer look that never came.
I agree. But we do have some depth at the D that might be in the way of his future here. I could see the perspective of that anyways.

He probably saw himself replacing Poti, Strudwick maybe even Ozo

But Maloneysather addressed those spots, at least for the time being through FA

I think Rachunek is going to be a stud this year
Ward is a solid Vet coming off a Cup

The rest of the guys are coming back.

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Maybe I'm blind, but Pock never looked like a major defensive liability in his handful of NHL games to me. What I saw was a player who earned a closer look that never came.
Agreed. Maybe it is as Edge said. The powers that be saw something that they did not like, that people like me have missed.

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If Thomas Pock wants to play in NA,then he can accept the two way deal.If he wants to further his career playing in the hockey hotbed of Austria,then he should play in Austria.Just send the Rangers a postcard during the holiday season

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Somehow I think the Rangers will be able to survive the loss of Pock

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time to do some asset management and trade him for something...anything...
Don Maloney and Glen Sather will make the right move if the opportunity presents itself like it did with the Dominic Moore for Adam Hall trade

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What does it give the New York Rangers?
In Hall, the Rangers have added a solid third-line winger for their bottom six up front. He'll kill penalties and provide a little more grit to the lineup. The Rangers also cleared a roster spot for Finnish center Jarkko Immonen by moving Moore. The Moore-Hall swap is excellent asset management by Rangers GM Glen Sather
http://www.forecaster.ca/hockeynews/...06-07&x_id=633


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Melrose...

it is a matter of opinion. I thought he was pretty poor and overmatched in his own zone, although he excelled in the open ice. To me, that didn't make up for his defense, which I thought was quite poor. Perhaps it's not reflected in his stats (and we all can argue stats and then cite Rozsival), but that's what I always thought. But we all have different opinions of Pock.

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it is a matter of opinion. I thought he was pretty poor and overmatched in his own zone, although he excelled in the open ice.
To me, it's all realtive. My expectations for Pock were not that he would go out there and be exceptional or even average defensively. My expectations were that he would generate offense from the blue line while not be an outright liability, and he delivered.

I'm not lamenting the departure of Pock as much as the fact that he didn't get to play in place of defenseman who were playing below everyone's expectations, at which point a fairly educated assessment of his real NHL potential could be made.

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