while i would never cheer something like this, and still feel ortiz is the league mvp, as a yankee fan, i can say, even if he comes back. the sox are done. bring on the playoffs.
while i would never cheer something like this, and still feel ortiz is the league mvp, as a yankee fan, i can say, even if he comes back. the sox are done. bring on the playoffs.
Gotta be from the steroids he's been doing. HGH is undetectable from what I've heard, and the most dangerous of all of the steroids. Football fans might remember Brian Pillman of the Cincy Bengals who went onto become a wrestler... he died of an overdose of drugs and steroids. People that knew him knew he was doing HGH and too much of it combined with any sort or amount of hard drugs is a fatal combination. Back to Ortiz... if you've ever seen his rookie card or pictures of him early on in his career in Minnesota, you'll notice that he's a twig. Giambi had the same symptoms last season from doing roids. First it was an irregular heartbeat, then it was the sickness, and then the benign tumors. This guy comes out of nowhere to all of a sudden start hitting monstrous amounts of homeruns? Anyone remember Luis Gonzalez? Hit 31 homeruns back in 2000 for Arizona, and then all of sudden hits 50 and almost wins the 01 Triple Crown. He hasn't hit over 30 homeruns since.
Don't be fooled by the surname, you can look up the name "David Arias" at http://www.baseball-reference.comand not find a damn thing. It's David Ortiz alright. I wonder why he changed his surname as well, now that I look at it... Too many of these "out of left field" - I know, terrible pun - guys hitting homeruns. Someone give this guy a drug test.
Is everyone's success attributed to steroids now? Are all athletes supposed to stay the same size their whole career? They're not supposed to put on any weight or muscle during their career? Are they not allowed to take advice that could make them a better hitter? Because we all know that different offensive strategies ("small ball" vs "long ball") have no affect on stats. I don't know if Ortiz has done steroids so I can't say if he's innocent or guilty. It's just funny going on message boards and reading these arguments where any type of success/improvement is impossible without steroids. Ortiz is in what is generally considered the prime years of his career so he's having the big numbers when he should. It's not like some other guys who are putting up their best stats when they should be on the decline. Or maybe I'm just in the minority now and consider people innocent until proven guilty.
Is everyone's success attributed to steroids now? Are all athletes supposed to stay the same size their whole career? They're not supposed to put on any weight or muscle during their career? Are they not allowed to take advice that could make them a better hitter? Because we all know that different offensive strategies ("small ball" vs "long ball") have no affect on stats. I don't know if Ortiz has done steroids so I can't say if he's innocent or guilty. It's just funny going on message boards and reading these arguments where any type of success/improvement is impossible without steroids. Ortiz is in what is generally considered the prime years of his career so he's having the big numbers when he should. It's not like some other guys who are putting up their best stats when they should be on the decline. Or maybe I'm just in the minority now and consider people innocent until proven guilty.
I think it's more a case of once someone starts showing symptoms of steroids then people begin to attribute past feats to them. Anyone who will have something, irregular heartbeat in this case, to what Giambi had during that season will get them a ticket to the stroid group. I myself don't know whether it's true or not and won't be making any judgements based on a small thing such as an irregular heartbeat.
Anyone remember Luis Gonzalez? Hit 31 homeruns back in 2000 for Arizona, and then all of sudden hits 50 and almost wins the 01 Triple Crown. He hasn't hit over 30 homeruns since.
show me the positive test, sir. he must have tested positive if you're going to use that language.
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HGH is undetectable from what I've heard, and the most dangerous of all of the steroids. Football fans might remember Brian Pillman of the Cincy Bengals who went onto become a wrestler... he died of an overdose of drugs and steroids.
no, pillman died of arteriosclerotic heart disease. the numerous drugs and gas he did in his playing days might have led to his early death, but the official reason was arteriosclerotic heart disease.
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People that knew him knew he was doing HGH
show me those quotes. all signs pointed to pillman straightening his life up.
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Back to Ortiz... if you've ever seen his rookie card or pictures of him early on in his career in Minnesota, you'll notice that he's a twig.
ripken put on weight during his career as well. was he on steroids? what about dennis eckersley? how about we'll assume that any and all players who add weight during their careers are on steroids! tests?! we don't need no stinkin' tests!
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Giambi had the same symptoms last season from doing roids. First it was an irregular heartbeat, then it was the sickness, and then the benign tumors.
i'm a red sox fan and i can't remember the last time that ortiz missed stretches of time for injuries (usually a tell-tale sign that a guy is on something). he's been one of the most durable players (alright, he's a dh, but he doesn't miss games very often...he'll get a day off for rest...oh and he took a day off when his son was born) of the last few seasons. and i've never heard of ortiz having "tumors" and long illnesses. so, find another connection.
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This guy comes out of nowhere to all of a sudden start hitting monstrous amounts of homeruns? Anyone remember Luis Gonzalez? Hit 31 homeruns back in 2000 for Arizona, and then all of sudden hits 50 and almost wins the 01 Triple Crown. He hasn't hit over 30 homeruns since.
ortiz was told by tom kelly (former twinkies manager) to hit to the opposite field more and not try to hit as many homers. they even went as far as to mess with his stance so as to make him more susceptable to the up-and-in pitch on his hands, as they wanted him to knock those pitches into left field for doubles. yeah, they took the bat out of his hands, essentially. he came to boston, jackson realigned his stance and the rest is history. it's not the first time that a player went from one team to another and looked like a complete different player. it happens with pitchers all the time. does that mean that greg maddux is on steroids? i mean, he went from the cubs to the braves and is widely considered one of the best control pitchers ever. must mean steroids right? can't be coaching.
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Don't be fooled by the surname, you can look up the name "David Arias" at http://www.baseball-reference.comand not find a damn thing. It's David Ortiz alright. I wonder why he changed his surname as well, now that I look at it... Too many of these "out of left field" - I know, terrible pun - guys hitting homeruns. Someone give this guy a drug test.
he dropped his mother's name when he went to the twins. maybe he wanted to be more american? (it's not an uncommon thing for latinos to have their mother's names). either way, because he changed his name he's on steroids? unless his former name was roid mchghlover, that theory goes nowhere.
heart problems are related to steroids. but you went from irregular heartbeat, which can be caused by a lot of things right to steroids. without knowing the facts, you know nothing. until something concrete comes out, i suggest you shut your mouth.
Gotta be from the steroids he's been doing. HGH is undetectable from what I've heard, and the most dangerous of all of the steroids. Football fans might remember Brian Pillman of the Cincy Bengals who went onto become a wrestler... he died of an overdose of drugs and steroids. People that knew him knew he was doing HGH and too much of it combined with any sort or amount of hard drugs is a fatal combination. Back to Ortiz... if you've ever seen his rookie card or pictures of him early on in his career in Minnesota, you'll notice that he's a twig. Giambi had the same symptoms last season from doing roids. First it was an irregular heartbeat, then it was the sickness, and then the benign tumors. This guy comes out of nowhere to all of a sudden start hitting monstrous amounts of homeruns? Anyone remember Luis Gonzalez? Hit 31 homeruns back in 2000 for Arizona, and then all of sudden hits 50 and almost wins the 01 Triple Crown. He hasn't hit over 30 homeruns since.
Don't be fooled by the surname, you can look up the name "David Arias" at http://www.baseball-reference.comand not find a damn thing. It's David Ortiz alright. I wonder why he changed his surname as well, now that I look at it... Too many of these "out of left field" - I know, terrible pun - guys hitting homeruns. Someone give this guy a drug test.
I was going to list how wrong you were in every respect, but it seems others have beat me to it. Sad to see comments/unfounded accusations like yours.
If you don't think Ortiz hasn't been tested by now you'd be kidding yourselfs. Listen, we can call this random all we want, I'm sure the high profile stars were among the first tested, aside from the usual suspects, only because baseball doesn't want to make this look like a witchhunt
Damn, there goes my chances at winning my fatasy baseball league
But seriously, I hope he's able to continue playing this year, a heart condition is serious can could spell the end of his season (if not his career if it's life threatening...). Not that I'm a Boston fan, but you'd hate to see an MVP player like Ortiz lose his season and potentially his career, so I really hope Boston errs on the side of caution, and doesn't rush him back...
while i would never cheer something like this, and still feel ortiz is the league mvp, as a yankee fan, i can say, even if he comes back. the sox are done. bring on the playoffs.
Yankees fan here, but good luck to Ortiz. I'm sure he will be fine since he's got some of the best doctors in the world.
But let's be honest..this does not affect the current pennant races very much. Even if he was healthy, he has nobody in the lineup with half the heart he does and now that Ramirez and Pena are out indefinitely, the Sox are just about finished.
It's just another kick in the crotch for the Sox at the moment...between this, the injury bug expanding daily almost, they've pretty much kissed any chance at the playoffs goodbye, IMO (I just don't see them catching Minnesota, the White Sox, or even the Angels at this rate).
Rough news, though, and not something you wish on anyone. Hope Big Papi gets better soon.
Good thing they're building a new one.
