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11-17-2003, 11:04 AM
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I disagree, because I don't see him as an 'offensive sniper' but as a depth forward with a good shot, just as Peter Schaefer is a depth forward with good stickhandling skills.

All I want from either Peter is solid all-around play and one thing done better than average. The whole team can't be all-stars.

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Excpet that Schaefer is a defensive specialist and a good PK guy, none of which is Shastlivy. If he doesn't produce offensively he's not worth the roster spot.

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The whole team can't be all-stars.
Why not, we're close!

Seriously though, I guess we have different views on Schastlivy. I definitely don't see him as a Peter Schaefer type player at all, even with further defensive development.

I see him as a "shooter", plain-and-simple. My biggest beef with a lot of our talented forwards is that they get a little cute some time. Schastlivy is the cure for that. You put him on the line with the objective of capitalizing on the moves that the other players create (particularly Spezza and Havlat).

He's the only pure goal-scorer who feeds off others. Hossa is going to be a perennial Richard trophy candidate, but most of his goals are a product of his puck carrying. Schastlivy is a guy that can capitalize on other people's work. Right now, he's not doing it. Perhaps he can keep his job by doing everything else "average", but IMO, there are better players out there who can do those things.

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Let's not get carried away here, in no way does Shastlivy come anywhere close to Shaeffer. Shaeffer gives 110% everynight, Shasta does not. Shaeffer is a great penalty killer, Shasta is not. Shaeffer will play physical, Shasta will not. Add to the fact that Shaeffer is possibly one of the best board men in the league, there is no way that Shastlivy is even in the same league as he. Again, just an opinion that most sens fans I know would agree on.

Also, I'm not only down on him because he is in a slump but we have enough snipers in our line-up that we don't need to worry about going out of our way to keep one with potential in the line-up.

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Being a Buffalo fan I was glad to see Gratton go for Briere, but he might be a good fit for you guys if your expectations don't put him past the third line. He gives you the size and the ability to win faceoffs for you guys, plus he can play left.

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11-17-2003, 12:05 PM
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Like Other Dave, I am far from down on Schastlivy. I think he has been solid of late. To the point I still think Schastlivy will score 20 goals in the NHL somday. Perhaps quite a bit more. Hell, he still may score more than 20 this year.

I still think Gratton would be a perfect addition short of a true impact forward. He brings all the little things to the table, is a former 30 goal scorer (he does have some offensive ability) and we can possibly get him cheap given his contract situation. I didn't mean to imply White is useless (don't like kicking him when he's already down), but I also haven't seen much chemistry with White this year, so if Mucks wants to shake things up, moving White is probably the least damaging major move I can think of.

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