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11-16-2003, 05:59 PM
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rumour: Oilers interested in Kolzig?

I apologize if this has already been posted...

BRUCE GARRIOCH of the Ottawa Sun has reported that :
"The Oilers would like to move G Tommy Salo. There's some talk they'll make a pitch for Washington G Olaf Kolzig. The Avs have also held talks about Kolzig."

http://www.canoe.ca/Slam031116/col_garrioch-sun.html

anyone believe this?
could we afford him?
do we need him with the way Conklin has been playing?
do you think it would be a one for one deal?

thoughts?

oh and he also talked about a possible Comrie to Atlanta deal:

Atlanta GM Don Waddell confirmed to the Sun he's held talks with the Oilers about C Mike Comrie. "I can tell you that I'm not going to give up (2003 No. 1 pick) D Braydon Cobourn or goaltender Kari Lehtonen, but I haven't gotten into specifics with Kevin Lowe," said Waddell. Sources say the Oilers are asking for three top prospects and a No. 1 pick for the rights to Comrie ...

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I think its a bunch of crap. No way the Oilers want a 6(?) million dollar goalie.

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Not only that, but how old is Kolzig? Conklin seems to be fitting in nicely, now as long as Lowe doesn't trade him away, we have ourselves a future tender.

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I still think there is interest in a trade with Washington. For whatever reason Lowe seems intent on landing Sutherby and you know how Lowe is when he wants something. Like a dog with a bone.

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I can recall Dr Van Nostrin saying that Bruce Garrioch is famous for talking out of his butt, and this would be a prime example of that for the reasons that others have mentioned above. At least I hope it's butt-talk, KLo's off his rocker if it's true.

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Ya, getting Kolzig doesn't make sense for this team at all.

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I apologize if this has already been posted...

BRUCE GARRIOCH of the Ottawa Sun has reported that :
"The Oilers would like to move G Tommy Salo. There's some talk they'll make a pitch for Washington G Olaf Kolzig. The Avs have also held talks about Kolzig."

http://www.canoe.ca/Slam031116/col_garrioch-sun.html

anyone believe this?
could we afford him?
do we need him with the way Conklin has been playing?
do you think it would be a one for one deal?

thoughts?

oh and he also talked about a possible Comrie to Atlanta deal:

Atlanta GM Don Waddell confirmed to the Sun he's held talks with the Oilers about C Mike Comrie. "I can tell you that I'm not going to give up (2003 No. 1 pick) D Braydon Cobourn or goaltender Kari Lehtonen, but I haven't gotten into specifics with Kevin Lowe," said Waddell. Sources say the Oilers are asking for three top prospects and a No. 1 pick for the rights to Comrie ...
That's an interesting rumour. Sure Kolzig is expensive and maybe a little old but if the Caps pay for parts of his salary then I don't see why he wouldn't be an upgrade over Salo. We could have him here for a year or two while Conklin pushes and proves that he can be a legit no.1 goalie in this League, then get rid of Kolzig.

Scouts from Washington have been at the last 3 or 4 Oilers games.

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11-16-2003, 07:22 PM
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The only way I could see it would be if there was a 3-way deal in the works. Something like:

To Washington: Salo + a medium pick or middling prospect
To Colorado: Kolzig
To Edmonton: a goalie prospect.

Washington's motivation: they save around $2.6 million (which has been their top priority this season, I hear.)
Colorado's motivation: they get a big name goalie.
Edmonton's motivation: we save big coin, too.

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I still think there is interest in a trade with Washington. For whatever reason Lowe seems intent on landing Sutherby and you know how Lowe is when he wants something. Like a dog with a bone.

Tell me more about Sutherby, I have heard about Lowes interest in him but I don't know much about him.

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Tell me more about Sutherby, I have heard about Lowes interest in him but I don't know much about him.
CBC said he has great leadership skills and is a sure future captain. Last year Caps rejected the Niinimaa for Sutherby offer so Caps may be high on him as well.

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Tell me more about Sutherby, I have heard about Lowes interest in him but I don't know much about him.
Sutherby is very very similar to Stoll. I don't get why we need to character guys with somewhat limited offensive upside.

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To Washington: Salo + a medium pick or middling prospect
To Colorado: Kolzig
To Edmonton: a goalie prospect.
Oh pretty please let it be Ouette!!! It would probably take adding Comrie to the mix to get him, but please let it be.

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I beleive Kolzig is only 1 year older than Salo.

For a big man I wouldn't mind the deal, but the caps would have to eat some salary there. That said I all things being equal in contracts good deal. Otherwise, I doubt it.

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The only way I could see it would be if there was a 3-way deal in the works. Something like:

To Washington: Salo + a medium pick or middling prospect
To Colorado: Kolzig
To Edmonton: a goalie prospect.

Washington's motivation: they save around $2.6 million (which has been their top priority this season, I hear.)
Colorado's motivation: they get a big name goalie.
Edmonton's motivation: we save big coin, too.
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Oh pretty please let it be Ouette!!! It would probably take adding Comrie to the mix to get him, but please let it be.
more like P. Savue from COL i Believe

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more like P. Savue from COL i Believe
But, one can dream of great things ... can't he?

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oh and he also talked about a possible Comrie to Atlanta deal:

Atlanta GM Don Waddell confirmed to the Sun he's held talks with the Oilers about C Mike Comrie. "I can tell you that I'm not going to give up (2003 No. 1 pick) D Braydon Cobourn or goaltender Kari Lehtonen, but I haven't gotten into specifics with Kevin Lowe," said Waddell. Sources say the Oilers are asking for three top prospects and a No. 1 pick for the rights to Comrie ...
I saw this on Spector's, and noticed something odd about it. Does that mean first round, or does it mean Patrik Stefan? Three prospects and a first round pick would be unreasonable, but prospects and Stefan for Comrie is far closer. Or maybe it was just an odd choice of words.

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Sutherby is very very similar to Stoll. I don't get why we need to character guys with somewhat limited offensive upside.

Oh pretty please let it be Ouette!!! It would probably take adding Comrie to the mix to get him, but please let it be.
If Edmonton ended up with Oullette, Colorado would be giving up nothing to get Kolzig. One can dream all he wants but putting Oulette's name in there would not work.

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Last year Caps rejected the Niinimaa for Sutherby offer so Caps may be high on him as well.
I still haven't seen this anywhere credible, and I highly doubt it happened. Kind of like the whole Niinimaa-for-Tucker thing.

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Like I said... it doesn't seem to make sense. Unless we could do something like:
To EDM: Sutherby, Suave or Abeschier
To AVS: Kolzig, fourth(from Caps)
To CAP: Salo, Ballard, second(from Oilers)

That seems to fit everybody's needs (although it is my opinion that any proposal including Sutherby is off as I can't see the Caps moving him) as the Avs get an upgrade to a top goalie for a prospects (Ballard) which they've shown they are ready and willing to give up. Oilers get a good blueliner and if it's Abeschier somebody who can start adequately for much cheaper. For the Caps, they get a proven #1 goalie while still saving quite a few million and then add a good defensive prospect and a decent pick.

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I still haven't seen this anywhere credible, and I highly doubt it happened. Kind of like the whole Niinimaa-for-Tucker thing.
I may be reaching a little here but, the reference of Niinimaa for Tucker is interesting in the sense that in the end Lowe actually got a player that was supposed to fit the void that Tucker was sought after for.

Torres was billed as a guy that would fill that role so with that reasoning, even though Lowe never pulled the trigger for Tucker specifically, he did pull the trigger for a guy who was thought to be similar in style.

So now we hear Lowe is looking at Kolzig (which I agree is a big stretch in reasoning) and Waddell made the comment in the Sun on Sunday that Lehtonen isn't available (a quote that sugegsted to me Lowe may have been inquiring about him), and a passing reference today about Bierk(sp?) being inquired about from Pheonix by Lowe and all of a sudden it seems to me that there is enough suggestion out there to reason that Lowe is indeed looking for a new goalie.

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Like I said... it doesn't seem to make sense. Unless we could do something like:
To EDM: Sutherby, Suave or Abeschier
To AVS: Kolzig, fourth(from Caps)
To CAP: Salo, Ballard, second(from Oilers)

That seems to fit everybody's needs (although it is my opinion that any proposal including Sutherby is off as I can't see the Caps moving him) as the Avs get an upgrade to a top goalie for a prospects (Ballard) which they've shown they are ready and willing to give up. Oilers get a good blueliner and if it's Abeschier somebody who can start adequately for much cheaper. For the Caps, they get a proven #1 goalie while still saving quite a few million and then add a good defensive prospect and a decent pick.
So the Oilers dump a ton of salary, and acquire Sutherby and Suave or Aebischer for Salo and a second round pick??

You're a homer.

P.S. Where is this blueliner the Oil are acquiring??

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The only way I could see it would be if there was a 3-way deal in the works. Something like:

To Washington: Salo + a medium pick or middling prospect
To Colorado: Kolzig
To Edmonton: a goalie prospect.

Washington's motivation: they save around $2.6 million (which has been their top priority this season, I hear.)
Colorado's motivation: they get a big name goalie.
Edmonton's motivation: we save big coin, too.
I would love if the Oilers could land Ouellet, trust me he will be a keeper. Him and Deslauriers could battle it out for the starters job in the future.

Although I love the idea of us landing Ouellet I don't think we have a chance. This just seems like another wild rumour from Garioch, yours makes more sense than his, but I still would'nt hold my breath. Good idea though.

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1. BRUCE GARRIOCH'S an idiot.
2. 99% sure that Kolzig goes nowhere. I'm pretty sure he has to stay in the DC area in order for his kid to get special treatment at that hospital.

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going after kolzig would not surprise me. Lowe is in it to win a cup and the only way a small market team gets close is with outstanding goaltending. Look at buffalo and anaheim for recent example. Even carolina had better goaltending than anyone they played during their run.

Lowe has a bit of salary room available. I had heard that his budget was 36 mill this year and it seems to me that he is at 31 right now. If he buys out salo for 70% of whats left, he saves a million dollars as well. If lowe moves salo, then he can easily afford kolzig. The question would be - is kolzig a good enough goalie to get a young team deep into the playoffs?

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I have yet to see this rumour anywhere else but the Garrioch article in the Ottawa Sun. But the Caps have been scouting the Oilers so their must be some interest somewhere. I asked about rumours involving the Oilers over on the Capitals Board if any of you wanna see what they have to say.

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I have to agree that pursuing Kolzig make no sense at all. Ouellet is definitely the man they should be after, but that's not gonna happen if we're trying to deal them Salo. I don't see why they would want Salo over Kolzig anyways.

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