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09-24-2006, 07:50 PM
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habs need better plan for prospects management!!

right now montreal has the most depth at forward position but if we don't use our assets right then there is very good chance of losing future stars for next to nothing!!

I say we really need to make a long term transaction and maybe even accept trading young prospects or players for immediate help to boost more talent into our defence.

At the time kovalev, hossa trade looked very bad but it hasn't given us much trouble so why not try trading more youngsters, I will happily accept trade that sees Ryder, Ribeiro, Bonk going to other teams to improve our defence, that way we also don't have to worry about losing perezhogin to waiver wire...

BG already lost hainsey, and considering the lack of defensive depth and so many players going to UFA status next year its going to hurt badly, it was devastating losing such a talented prospect for nothig even if you are not hainsey fan....



Just look at Leafs, they trade almost every top prospect they got in the system but they still endup perfortming eqaully in prospect development, hard to admit but steen, wellwood, stajan from last year are equally good as higgins, plekanec, perezhogin only difference being we keep our prospects too long and lose them just because we got too much depth, so in the end both leafs and habs end up icing same amount of rookies even if habs got to top pick at better draft position and got more cracks at top prospects...

Most of our defencemen in souray, Komisarek, rivet, markov started out as sixth defencemen but they progressed in depth and responsibilities with time, while that is surely true for those four I just don't ever see Cube, Dendenault, streit getting any better, so why keep depth player just for the sake of it.. I say lets acquire talent that can potentially take on more responsibilities in the future with experience, we are screwed big time if Markov, souray ask for big raises come next july...


Now accordingly habs have way too many prospects on forward position and fans are becoming less patient with prospects,

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fans are becoming less patient with prospects,

Who cares what the fans are doing!!!

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I will happily accept trade that sees Ryder, Ribeiro, Bonk going to other teams to improve our defence, that way we also don't have to worry about losing perezhogin to waiver wire...
Yes, let's improve the team by trading away the team's leading goal scorer.

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right now montreal has the most depth at forward position but if we don't use our assets right then there is very good chance of losing future stars for next to nothing!!

I say we really need to make a long term transaction and maybe even accept trading young prospects or players for immediate help to boost more talent into our defence.

At the time kovalev, hossa trade looked very bad but it hasn't given us much trouble so why not try trading more youngsters, I will happily accept trade that sees Ryder, Ribeiro, Bonk going to other teams to improve our defence, that way we also don't have to worry about losing perezhogin to waiver wire...

BG already lost hainsey, and considering the lack of defensive depth and so many players going to UFA status next year its going to hurt badly, it was devastating losing such a talented prospect for nothig even if you are not hainsey fan....



Just look at Leafs, they trade almost every top prospect they got in the system but they still endup perfortming eqaully in prospect development, hard to admit but steen, wellwood, stajan from last year are equally good as higgins, plekanec, perezhogin only difference being we keep our prospects too long and lose them just because we got too much depth, so in the end both leafs and habs end up icing same amount of rookies even if habs got to top pick at better draft position and got more cracks at top prospects...

Most of our defencemen in souray, Komisarek, rivet, markov started out as sixth defencemen but they progressed in depth and responsibilities with time, while that is surely true for those four I just don't ever see Cube, Dendenault, streit getting any better, so why keep depth player just for the sake of it.. I say lets acquire talent that can potentially take on more responsibilities in the future with experience, we are screwed big time if Markov, souray ask for big raises come next july...

Now accordingly habs have way too many prospects on forward position and fans are becoming less patient with prospects,
Trading Ribs and Bonk won't help you upgrading that much the D. Ryder well the most uneffective 30-goal scorer do something we have no idea if anybody else in that team does that.....scoring goals....

As far as prospects are concerned, sure Steen, Stajan, Wellwood and now Tlusty are good players and then you may have White, Bell, Earl, Williams and Pogge. But we do have great talent as well and being able to have that many good prospects while picking mostly after the Leafs means that we're not so bad.

And it's not by trading Rask for Raycroft that you build a winner.....Leafs had the chance to have 2 great potentiel #1 and send 1 of those for a ?, that's not so great.

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well its not always about scorer you know

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Yes, let's improve the team by trading away the team's leading goal scorer.
As much as lot of fan see us improving over time I see us going down hill if we don't solve our lack of defensive depth, so why don't we trade our strong position at forward and acquire help at defence...


Right now Plekanec has pretty much sealed 2nd line spot and Bonk can handle 3rd line duties so I don't know why we should keep ribeiro, and same goes for Ryder as well if Latenderesse is making the team then why not give him Ryders spot, that way we become more physical and maybe even better dehesively...

We need to trade assets to get assets, and we really need to change few things its getting rather obvious in the preseason games....

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The defense will be good in a couple years, the problem is that our best defensive prospects are stuck overseas.

Korpikari is a rock on the blue-line, solid, should've been here for the training camp. Emelin is the type of defensemen we've been looking for. Valentenko, Fischer and Carle who were just drafted seem to be a great bunch for the future. O'Byrne will be a monster on the blue-line, Benoit will be good, Sanford will be if he gets his act together.

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The defense will be good in a couple years, the problem is that our best defensive prospects are stuck overseas.

Korpikari is a rock on the blue-line, solid, should've been here for the training camp. Emelin is the type of defensemen we've been looking for. Valentenko, Fischer and Carle who were just drafted seem to be a great bunch for the future. O'Byrne will be a monster on the blue-line, Benoit will be good, Sanford will be if he gets his act together.
I see O'Byrne and Komisarek being our big hitters for the future with Emelin replacing Markov should he ever leave.

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I see O'Byrne and Komisarek being our big hitters for the future with Emelin replacing Markov should he ever leave.
That's not a fair assumption. O'Byrne will be our Chara (not as dominant, but in that same element). Komisarek will be our Scott Stevens (Save not the same kind of leader that Stevens was). Emelin is a Kasparaitus with a Souray type shot. Valentenko according to Timmins is Emelin with a bigger shot. Korpikari will be a Craig Rivet type defenceman. Fischer, Benoit, Streit, Sanford and Carle are the offensive defencemen capable of replacing Markov. However, we should not think about replacing Markov until he retires, because he's something special.

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The defense will be good in a couple years, the problem is that our best defensive prospects are stuck overseas.

Korpikari is a rock on the blue-line, solid, should've been here for the training camp. Emelin is the type of defensemen we've been looking for. Valentenko, Fischer and Carle who were just drafted seem to be a great bunch for the future. O'Byrne will be a monster on the blue-line, Benoit will be good, Sanford will be if he gets his act together.
you are right on the mark ,we will be more than good ,,,,,soon.

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