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Greatest Goalie of All Time #10

View Poll Results: Greatest Goalie of All Time #10
George Hainsworth 2 5.41%
Bernie Parent 15 40.54%
Clint Benedict 3 8.11%
Turk Broda 4 10.81%
Billy Smith 4 10.81%
Johnny Bower 0 0%
Georges Vezina 4 10.81%
Chuck Gardiner 1 2.70%
Frank Brimsek 2 5.41%
Lorne "Gump" Worsley 2 5.41%
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09-09-2006, 08:02 AM
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Greatest Goalie of All Time #10

Durnan finally won with 10 votes and Worsley will be added next. Voted Broda, add Fuhr.

#1.Roy(40.70%)
#2.Sawchuk(36.00%)
#3.Plante(38.16%)
#4.Hasek(32.05%)
#5.Hall(37.84%)
#6.Dryden(38.61%)
#7.Brodeur(31.11%)
#8.Tretiak(35.00%)
#9. Durnan(24.39%)

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Vote Parent, add Tiny Thompson.

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Hainsworth. Add Tony Esposito.

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Add Belfour, he is top 10-15 goalie of all time

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Parent, add Espo

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Benedict, add Tiny Thompson.

Benedict isn't getting much respect.

Led the league 5 times in GAA, 6 times in Wins, 7 times in shutouts, and won 4 cups.

He was also a revolutionary; he was the first to wear a mask, and he was the first goalie to drop to his knees and flop.


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Just a question.... when stating the accomplishments of goalies from the 6 team league are you guys also factoring in the times they've come in dead last?

I only ask because I looked up Plante and noticed around 63-64 (hockeydb has full-ish stats for that year) and he seemed to be dead last among goalies... and every starting goalie in the league that season had won a Vezina Trophy as if they were handed out in the 60's like they were Participation Trophies at a Little League Banquet.
Plus there's always the sharp decline in Sawchuk's career (about halfway through).

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09-12-2006, 11:57 AM
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and every starting goalie in the league that season had won a Vezina Trophy as if they were handed out in the 60's like they were Participation Trophies at a Little League Banquet.
For the record, during this era the league "handed out" the Vezina based on the team allowing the fewest regular-season goals. You make it sound as if there was discretion on the league's part.

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For the record, during this era the league "handed out" the Vezina based on the team allowing the fewest regular-season goals. You make it sound as if there was discretion on the league's part.
I knew that, but it doesn't stop others from comparing the accomplishments of Hasek to those of somebody who had a 13% chance of a winning a Vezina Trophy on the backs of his teammates before the first game of the season had even been played.

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I knew that, but it doesn't stop others from comparing the accomplishments of Hasek to those of somebody who had a 13% chance of a winning a Vezina Trophy on the backs of his teammates before the first game of the season had even been played.
It goes both ways, though. It's harder for Hasek (Roy, Brodeur, et cetera) to win a Vezina Trophy, but (for example) it's much easier to win playoff games.

And generally it's the same type of people who make both types of mistakes. So my guess is that it washes out.

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Just a question.... when stating the accomplishments of goalies from the 6 team league are you guys also factoring in the times they've come in dead last?

I only ask because I looked up Plante and noticed around 63-64 (hockeydb has full-ish stats for that year) and he seemed to be dead last among goalies... and every starting goalie in the league that season had won a Vezina Trophy as if they were handed out in the 60's like they were Participation Trophies at a Little League Banquet.
Plus there's always the sharp decline in Sawchuk's career (about halfway through).
Keep in mind, that also meant that at his worst, Plante was the 6th best goalie in the world.

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Keep in mind, that also meant that at his worst, Plante was the 6th best goalie in the world.
If you completely discount Europeans and minor leaguers (which in some cases, may be unconventional players blocked by stubborn old fools).
Of course, none of this even touches on the, ummm... "competitiveness" of the league which consistently handed out Stanley Cups to 3 teams over the entire 25 year history of the "Original 6" (it started with 4). End up a goalie on Montreal, Toronto or Detroit and your career is smooth sailin'!

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End up a goalie on Montreal, Toronto or Detroit and your career is smooth sailin'!
On the other side of the coin, you had to be a hell of a goalie to make one of those squads.

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On the other side of the coin, you had to be a hell of a goalie to make one of those squads.
What was to stop a Carey, Lalime, Raycroft, etc from starting out hot and letting the team carry him for a career?

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What was to stop a Carey, Lalime, Raycroft, etc from starting out hot and letting the team carry him for a career?
The large quantity of available talent in the American Hockey League and Western Hockey League at the time.

Case in point, Gump Worsley was demoted at the start of the 1953-54 season by the Rangers. His replacement, Johnny Bower, was solid in playing every game for the club that season.

Bower's reward was a demotion to the WHL Canucks.

It's not as if teams were gun-shy about demoting a goaltender back then.

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