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09-14-2006, 01:25 PM
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Koivu (merged)

http://rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/212918.html

As per RDS he will probably need a surgery, he hopes to be able to play and waits until the end of the season... :

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09-14-2006, 01:35 PM
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personally i wouldnt pay attention to those reports, i think RDS is just trying to create a buzz, they have nothing to report, how could of his eye of gotten so much better in three days since last report, and a week before the previous report, went from pessimistic to optomistic and back again, i personnally am not taking those reports seriously, what by doing there physicals he considers himself not ready, let him play some pre season games as he said he would then make a judgement on is condition, case closed.

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09-14-2006, 01:35 PM
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he goona wear a contact lens

and if its surgey it will be the end of the season when he hope to have it .


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lentille corneene ? Can you help me with that part ?

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lentille corneene ? Can you help me with that part ?
I believe that means contact lense.

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I believe that means contact lense.
It does.

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This whole thing has been such an emotional roller coaster (did/did'nt cut his eye, did/didn't require surgery, will/will not be able to see/play, etc.) that I'm no longer getting my hopes up or down. I just have a wait and see and hope for the best attitude. All the reports to date have ended up being contradicted a couple days later anyways.

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09-14-2006, 01:58 PM
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I find it strange there are no quotes in that article, it just seems like speculation to me. If Koivu needs surgery isn't that major news?

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I find it strange there are no quotes in that article, it just seems like speculation to me. If Koivu needs surgery isn't that major news?
wrong . the news is a "declaration " of Koivu , so they are quoting him .

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tsn link

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=177479&hubname=nhl


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This whole thing has been such an emotional roller coaster (did/did'nt cut his eye, did/didn't require surgery, will/will not be able to see/play, etc.) that I'm no longer getting my hopes up or down. I just have a wait and see and hope for the best attitude. All the reports to date have ended up being contradicted a couple days later anyways.
Same here, it's been back and forth all summer.

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it'll be really sad if this is the way he goes out.

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Don't understand. 2 days ago it was totally optimistic. Sure there's some problems but not setback and few journalists were saying that he looked just great on the ice. And then this.....

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The only constant in this sorry affair is my desire to throttle Justin Williams.

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So, if anyone who knows this stuff is out there, is the cataract a result of the injury ?

He was saying that his vision isn't quite as sharp as it had been, and hopefully the lens will help. He said that he was told that it definitely won't get better on its own and he would have to have it corrected. I don't think he knows until he plays really.

Catarct surgery isn't what it used to be, for an athlete, would he have to avoid contact for long ?

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personally i wouldnt pay attention to those reports, i think RDS is just trying to create a buzz, they have nothing to report, how could of his eye of gotten so much better in three days since last report, and a week before the previous report, went from pessimistic to optomistic and back again, i personnally am not taking those reports seriously, what by doing there physicals he considers himself not ready, let him play some pre season games as he said he would then make a judgement on is condition, case closed.

The lens will probably be implanted like they do for ppl operated for cataracts ..it 's done quickly with about 1 or 2 months recovery...I 'm not sure on that

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So, if anyone who knows this stuff is out there, is the cataract a result of the injury ?

He was saying that his vision isn't quite as sharp as it had been, and hopefully the lens will help. He said that he was told that it definitely won't get better on its own and he would have to have it corrected. I don't think he knows until he plays really.

Catarct surgery isn't what it used to be, for an athlete, would he have to avoid contact for long ?
Apparently cataracts are common in cases of eye injury.

If he has the surgery, I think he would be out for 6 weeks (no conditioning or exercise) to avoid raising the pressure in the eye which could cause more damage.

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09-14-2006, 03:08 PM
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Koivu will be there when the puck drops on Oct. 6th, I have no doubt about that in my mind and I never did...how effective he is, that's the real issue IMO.

I don't know why there's another story on this today, nothing has changed from 2 days ago... we won't know how this affects him until he's on the ice in at the very least team scrimmages.

The RDS article screams panick, while the TSN article pretty much repeats what we all knew

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I find it strange there are no quotes in that article, it just seems like speculation to me. If Koivu needs surgery isn't that major news?
It is not speculation. They have no quotes, but it is not speculation. The info must come from the organisation.

This is not good news.

Remember, they had their medical today. Hence the results getting to the media.

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I sincerely don't get Koivu, it's either he gets operated right now like any normal person would do when they have a big problem like this, we let Grabo take his place, or...., he starts they year playing poorly cause he can't even see Ryder on the right and has to retire cause he's not the shadow of what he used to be. Koivu is a PLAYMAKER, just like i said in a previous post, he has to see what's going on everywhere in order to start a play

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Well if you read the article carefully it said

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Cependant, comme sa vision ne s'est pas améliorée récemment, il pourrait devoir porter une lentille cornéenne puisqu'une cataracte s'est développée dans son oeil gauche.

Si le problème persiste, il pourrait même devoir passer à nouveau sous le bistouri à la fin de la campagne.

Koivu croit tout de même être en mesure de disputer le premier match du calendrier le 6 octobre à Buffalo.
- Doctor gaves him the green light to play.

- He will wear contact lense because "Cataractes" was formed in his eyes.

- He'll get surgery again AT THE END THE YEAR. (Not he'll be back at the end of the year)

- Koivu beleives he'll play the opening game against Buffalo.

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09-14-2006, 03:53 PM
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I've probably spent more time in my life reading reports on Koivu's injuries/illnesses than I have reading my textbooks in highschool and university combined.

It's getting a little annoying, although it is no fault of Saku's.

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09-14-2006, 03:54 PM
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You know I wonder what's best.

He gets surgery now and is possibly back 100% in time for the playoffs.

Or

He waits and plays the whole year at, I don't know, 75%, and takes the surgery in the off-season.

Hmm....

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09-14-2006, 04:08 PM
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If Koivu isn't ready to come back I hope he is smart enough to realise it sooner rather than later and be a real captain and think about the team...the organisation will be in a lot more trouble if they find out in December that he couldnt play at this level than if they find out now...at least now would give them some time to experiment with the young players and see how they react...

From the sounds of things he is probably better off getting a surgery now for himself first and last for the team....if this thing keeps getting worst because of he not getting surgery he could perhaps get to a point where he could perhaps lose his vision totally on that eye

The team is better with him on the team but only if he can continue to play the way he has before...if he is any less effective then the team is better finding someone else to fill the top 2 lines...right now is the perfect time because of all the experimentation that can occur

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