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09-27-2006, 01:08 AM
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On Anisemov, I like the pick, hopefully he can be a steal.

But an avg. draft often only have 1-3 firstline centers in it. I am not counting on Anisemov to be one of them in last summers draft, its not impossible but just not likely.

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09-27-2006, 01:54 AM
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As usual Edge has it right. Timing and cost are the keys here.

And you are also right Nick something will have to happen, but it could be an FA signing as opposed to a trade that takes many of our kids away. If you can find the right fit FA is great because all it takes is $$$.

Prospects and picks are the new wealth in the new NHL. If the Rangers have some cap space, spending the money as opposed to the bodies might be the way to go.

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09-27-2006, 07:49 AM
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Giving timing and cost considerations that UFO guy is Lecavalier.
What's wrong with winning the cup with Nylander and Jagr? 34 is not so old. Upgrading 1C is on the bottom of todo the list.

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.....nor do I, but no one has a crystal ball here.

Would anyone have picked Lundqvist as an elite goal tender at the beginning of last season. He's not there yet, but he has a very good chance of getting there. Same with Prucha. With no exceptions that I can think of did anyone (even Rodent) come close to foreseeing a 30 goal season for him.

My point is that we have time and we should be patient with these kids.

I would have chosen Lundy to be this special and I have been touting him as being this special since he was drafted.

Something about the way he took over the Frolunda starting spot from a goalie that was very very good way back when got me thinking and posting about this kid years ago.

I'm starting to get the same feeling about Dubinsky. At each level he's played, he's not only not looked out of place, but he looks like he fits right in. I really think that this kid is going to be the Rangers future 1st line center and based off the trend in his current learning curve, that could happen as soon as next year.

can't really put my finger on why I feel this way, but it's the same feeling I got with Henrik many moons ago.

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09-27-2006, 08:12 AM
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Timing and cost are the keys here.
That is exactly correct. I think that if the Ranger prospects the we frequently banter about take a step forward this year (this includes Immonen), such an action will probably spur an off-season trade. If they do not progress or worse, take a step back, then the precieved asset base will not be as plentifull as people think and, thus less assets to deal. In any case, the depth is not nearly there yet to suddenly start to give away a boatload of prospects. If the price is right, and the trading partner is right, then sure. If not, it is important to keep growing out the farm system.
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Giving timing and cost considerations that UFO guy is Lecavalier.
Didn't Tampa resign both him and St. Louis?
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What's wrong with winning the cup with Nylander and Jagr?
Nothing, if you precieve that the team is a true Cup contender this year. Nylander is not a real top-line center and were he playing with anyone not named Jagr, that would be extremely apparent.

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09-27-2006, 08:26 AM
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that UFO guy is Lecavalier.
Eh, as a UFO fan, I could have swore it was Michael Schenker myself.

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09-27-2006, 10:23 AM
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Great centers are always moved, atleast one every 1.5 season. We just need to be in a good position if someone we likes becomes available.

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Didn't Tampa resign both him and St. Louis?
Not for life. I just don't see any other being an upgrade over Nylander to play with Jagr.

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Nothing, if you precieve that the team is a true Cup contender this year.
No, I do not. This year will be no better than the last. 2008 is when we will make true statement, if any.

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09-27-2006, 11:54 AM
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Not for life. I just don't see any other being an upgrade over Nylander to play with Jagr.
Not for life, but for at least the next 5 years. One is not going to sit there and wait for him. And you need not be an upgrade over Nylander, while Jagr is on the same line. Someone quite similar will do. However, as stated previously, that does not mean that a trade will not be done in the off-season.

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09-27-2006, 12:05 PM
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Definately agree here. I think they are banking on Staal to be their future cornerstone on D. Who do you think could be that winger? Right now it's obviously JJ. Is Prucha's upside that high? Their future looks best at D and in goal, but there's no big producers coming up on offense. They have a lot of solid prospects (Dawes, Immonen, Dubinsky, Korpikoski) but nobody you point to and think, "He's gonna light the lamp like it's x-mas at Mr Grizwold's"
Personally I think Staal is more then guy who plays with the cornerstone guy, not necessarily is the cornerstone guy.

I don't think Prucha's upside is quite that high either.

I think the Rangers have some possibilities, but I'd say what they have are long shots to hit that franchise/cornerstone like level.

In other words I don't see someone on a Jagr like level in the system.

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09-27-2006, 12:30 PM
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Nothing, if you precieve that the team is a true Cup contender this year. Nylander is not a real top-line center and were he playing with anyone not named Jagr, that would be extremely apparent.
Yeah, that's all I'm trying to say.
Imagine if we did have a true first line center like lecavalier or marleau playing with jagr...
Then I'd say for sure we'd be a serious threat in the playoffs.
But one thing we do have that neither Tampa Bay or San Jose does (and many other teams for that matter) is a goalie like Lundqvist.

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09-27-2006, 12:41 PM
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BTW I see the Rangers having a first line winger in the system. His name is Lauri Korpikoski.
His talent seems to work at best with boys. I think he will be at best a decent 2nd liner. Probably 3rd or 4th liner.

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We could trade Monty for Zherdev, that would bring someone jagr like in the system.

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09-27-2006, 12:50 PM
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We could trade Monty for Zherdev, that would bring someone jagr like in the system.
are you talking about a 3-way trade because i don't see how Zherdev solves our 1st line center problem.

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What 'above average' offensive (not just center) players that are below 30 are in the last year of their contracts this year, making them UFAs?

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09-27-2006, 04:43 PM
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Eh, as a UFO fan, I could have swore it was Michael Schenker myself.


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I don't think Dubinsky quite projects to a first line center, but it is possible.
well I think his chances of becoming a first line center will improve when he grows to 6'5" and 250 lbs sometime by april .

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well I think his chances of becoming a first line center will improve when he grows to 6'5" and 250 lbs sometime by april .
Oh that's so awesome!

I can't wait till he becomes a power forward.....for the Knicks.

Kid is 20 years old, plenty of time to hit 6'7, 275 by his peak.

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Oh that's so awesome!

I can't wait till he becomes a power forward.....for the Knicks.

Kid is 20 years old, plenty of time to hit 6'7, 275 by his peak.
please. the kid works waaaaaaaay to hard to play for the knicks.

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I'm so glad I don't really follow basketball.

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09-27-2006, 11:23 PM
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I'm so glad I don't really follow basketball.
I don't either anymore. It's a shame because my father is a livelong Knick fan and 20+ year season ticket holder (I went to just about all of those knicks vs bulls/pacers playoff games durring the 90's) and I grew up an avid knick fan. I was never really more than a casual hockey (I remember following the 94 cup and the 97 playoff run, but I was never that into it) fan until I was 16, when I, for reasons I still can't explain, suddenly fell in love with the game.

And as my hockey fanatcism rose it, coupled with the putridness of the knicks, really phased out basketball. These days I'm a Hockey nut, an avid baseball fan, a soccer enthusiast and a casual football fan, and i find there is just no more time for basketball.

I do have some great memories, I've never seen the garden rock like it did when the bulls or pacers came town ofr a seven game series.

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Hockey and baseball for me.

Soccor just bores me, Basketball has lost too much skill for my taste and I've often found the hype and marketing machine of football to be far better than the actual games.

I could rant about football...but I won't.

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Hockey and baseball for me.

Soccor just bores me, Basketball has lost too much skill for my taste and I've often found the hype and marketing machine of football to be far better than the actual games.

I could rant about football...but I won't.
I find that these days i watch football more for the ritual of sitting down with my friends to watch the giants every sunday, not for the game itself. Of course I root for the team, but I'm not crushed when they loose and I don't devote much thought to the sport between sundays.

but I do still enjoy the ritual.

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I think that's the thing with football, it's pounded into your head so much that it seems like habit.

Beer, chips, football, etc.

Heck I'm not even a fan and I admit it happens to me sometimes. The damn commercials and marketing makes it sound so good that I sit down like a sucker and then go "what the hell am I doing?!?!"

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