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09-28-2006, 12:07 PM
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Nitty may not need surgery!

According to the Flyers website, they may be able to get away with a cortisone injection and save the surgery for the offseason.

http://www.philadelphiaflyers.com/pr...chive/2734.asp

Fingers crossed.

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Play with a bumhip all season long? How effective would that be? Look what it did to Rathje

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Such a bad idea. He's had to skate off the ice twice (once in practice, once in the Olympics) and he wants to play with it all year long? He's going to do some serious long term damage to that hip if he actually does follow through.


Cousin Evi said it best, "Well you're plenty ****ing stupid, I'll give you that."

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09-28-2006, 12:28 PM
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So is McCrossin just incompetent? That's not sarcasm, it's an honest question. I have only followed the Flyers for a few seasons, and there seems to have been several bad decisions made regarding injuries in that time.

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09-28-2006, 12:37 PM
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So is McCrossin just incompetent? That's not sarcasm, it's an honest question. I have only followed the Flyers for a few seasons, and there seems to have been several bad decisions made regarding injuries in that time.
McCrossin is NOT a Doctor. He is NOT the one making these decisions.

People think its fun to bash people, but look REALLY stupid without the proper info.

McCrossin is a TRAINER, not a DOCTOR! Trainers do what the DOCTOR recommends.

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09-28-2006, 12:54 PM
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http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/spo...y/15630381.htm

the Hip Specialist Doctor is making the call for no surgery, the same doctor that did Esche's hip as well as Rathje's

Dr. Byrd's resume: http://www.nashvillesportsmedicine.com/about.html

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09-28-2006, 12:59 PM
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Such a bad idea. He's had to skate off the ice twice (once in practice, once in the Olympics) and he wants to play with it all year long? He's going to do some serious long term damage to that hip if he actually does follow through.


Cousin Evi said it best, "Well you're plenty ****ing stupid, I'll give you that."
Quoting Snatch might be even better than quoting Seinfeld in reference to a hockey discussion.

+1 for you PY!

Oh right, about Nitty. Yeah, this is a stupid ****ing idea. Have him sit out the two-three months just to get healthy, it's worth it. The longer they delay the surgery, the longer they delay him coming back. I guarantee he won't last the season without having the surgery because it's only going to deteriorate to the point where cortisone shots aren't getting him on the ice every night. Look at our luck with injuries, DO THE SURGERY.

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Such a bad idea. He's had to skate off the ice twice (once in practice, once in the Olympics) and he wants to play with it all year long? He's going to do some serious long term damage to that hip if he actually does follow through.


Cousin Evi said it best, "Well you're plenty ****ing stupid, I'll give you that."


Hate to say it, but I think he should just go ahead with the surgery, instead of risking further damage.


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Quoting Snatch might be even better than quoting Seinfeld in reference to a hockey discussion.

+1 for you PY!

Oh right, about Nitty. Yeah, this is a stupid ****ing idea. Have him sit out the two-three months just to get healthy, it's worth it. The longer they delay the surgery, the longer they delay him coming back. I guarantee he won't last the season without having the surgery because it's only going to deteriorate to the point where cortisone shots aren't getting him on the ice every night. Look at our luck with injuries, DO THE SURGERY.
If anyone thinks that in 2 months they will announce he needs season ending surgery raise your hand. This also sheds a little light IMO about the confidence or lack there of they have in Esche to be rushing nitty back. Bottom line is he is not going to be 100% healthy, being the most important player on the ice that does not bode well

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Do the surgery do it now. 2 first month is nothing. We alway start good. Why wait?

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just have the damn surgery i dont want to have to hold my breath every shot hoping he gets up...

well i guess instead we will have to do that anyway w/ esche hoping he will stop the shot

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Do it and get it over with.

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I agree with just get the surgery over with. One of the dumbest mistakes we did last year was have Rathje play through his hip injury. Let's not repeat our mistakes, let's learn from them.

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09-28-2006, 03:30 PM
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If anyone thinks that in 2 months they will announce he needs season ending surgery raise your hand. This also sheds a little light IMO about the confidence or lack there of they have in Esche to be rushing nitty back. Bottom line is he is not going to be 100% healthy, being the most important player on the ice that does not bode well
***My hand is raised.*** I'd rather have him sit out, knowing that he will be at or near 100% when he returns than worry about this all season. I also think the point you made about the team's confidence in Esche is right on the mark. I think we all need to hope that our d steps up big time in his absence.

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If he does get the surgery he will be plented rested come playoffs as well. Assuming Esche is capable of getting us in contention in the time off.

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09-28-2006, 04:35 PM
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McCrossin is NOT a Doctor. He is NOT the one making these decisions.

People think its fun to bash people, but look REALLY stupid without the proper info.

McCrossin is a TRAINER, not a DOCTOR! Trainers do what the DOCTOR recommends.
Which is why I asked a question. Jeez, chillax.

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Do the surgery do it now. 2 first month is nothing. We alway start good. Why wait?
Dig it. Get it fixed, see you after Thanksgiving.

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Wow, I hope he doesn't go down this route. First there is the risk of him further injuring the hip: the cortisone won't heal the tear; second, there is the potential damage to his future career.

There are mild side-effects with steroid injections, though I'm not too familiar with them. Usually cortisone is used as a short-term treatment for an injury in place of real treatment. This would entail taking the shots for a loooong time. I'm no doctor, but I'd worry about him ending up with an arthritic hip and having to retire early.

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am i the only one seeing this as a bad bad omen for what is to ensue this season? sure is feeling like philadelphia early.

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It's going to physically hurt me more than Frank when his hip disintegrates.

Why?! If the surgery is basically needed, why? Why endanger the up-and-coming, Olympic MVP goalie we desperately need and who should finally stop the heart-breaking Philly goalie blackhole? Esche is perfectly capable and a cheap back-up can be found, to subject Niitty to possible injury is insane.

Admittedly the fact he's our goalie hopeful and our colourful history in the area has us more twitchy about this, but it's just not logically worth the risk since cortisone is in no way going to HEAL him, just dull the pain as he destroys himself. Esche is capable of starting for a month or two at least dammit.

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09-28-2006, 07:08 PM
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am i the only one seeing this as a bad bad omen for what is to ensue this season? sure is feeling like philadelphia early.
No way, Ottawa is the new Philadelphia.

Goaltending issues, post season underachievers, and now the injury bug, they've got it all.

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Do the surgery

This sounds more serious than Kipper's hip last year which was more of a nagging injury (did he even go under the knife?).

Should learn from the idiocy of the Eagles and McNabb with his sports hernia last season and try to get through the early going rather than lose a key player for the whole damn year.

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I'm afraid that if they go the cortisone way, they will try to spare Niitty from seeing too much action in the season and thus go with Esche as 65/35 #1. I think the surgery would be a lot less risky if you take into consideration the possibilities that 1)Esche might not be able to get the Flyers to the playoffs or 2)Esche gets injured.

Just go with the surgery, and get a suitable stop-gap backup (Labarbera would outplay Esche in no time, IMO)... But I guess we're no doctors and should all be confident that if the specialist says Niity will be fine, well he might just be...

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It would be a better decision just to go ahead with the surgery. Id would rather have a healthy nitty for half of the season then have an less-than-100% nitty for most of the season. I think everyone agrees with that.

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Oh right, about Nitty. Yeah, this is a stupid ****ing idea. Have him sit out the two-three months just to get healthy, it's worth it. The longer they delay the surgery, the longer they delay him coming back. I guarantee he won't last the season without having the surgery because it's only going to deteriorate to the point where cortisone shots aren't getting him on the ice every night. Look at our luck with injuries, DO THE SURGERY.
Couldn't have said it better

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