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10-03-2006, 05:48 PM
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Lehtonen...

Kari's health always been a problem so far in is young career.
Do you think he will stay healthy this season ??
What kind of number he might put up ??

There's no doubt in my mind that with an healthy Kari, they'll have a playoffs run in Atlanta...

Im kind of nervous cause I picked him in my pool !!

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10-03-2006, 06:36 PM
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Im kind of nervous cause I picked him in my pool !!
Welcome to the land of people who are paranoid about Lehtonen's health. You are welcome to stay as long as you wish...

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I think Lehtonen will finish the season with .940s%, 1.04 GAA and 7 wins.

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We really do need to make a poolies thread.

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It's funny how many young Finns have that problem, Lehtonen, Ruutu, Koivu, Nokelainen, Toivonen, Pitkänen just the top of my head. All of the YOUNG players where hurt last season.

I dont know if it's because of their training or bad luck, but it's very anoying for a Finnish hockey fan.

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We really do need to make a poolies thread.
Is that not what the Fantasy Board is for?

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Yes, the fantasy board is there for that but I'm sure you get random wanderers (such as me) who just pop in to see what Atlanta fans think of their own players and lines and potential since you might not see many Atlanta fans going into the Fantasy board.

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I think Lehtonen will finish the season with .940s%, 1.04 GAA and 7 wins.
at the clip he's going he will have more shutouts than the flyers have wins.

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It's funny how many young Finns have that problem, Lehtonen, Ruutu, Koivu, Nokelainen, Toivonen, Pitkänen just the top of my head. All of the YOUNG players where hurt last season.

I dont know if it's because of their training or bad luck, but it's very anoying for a Finnish hockey fan.
I don't know if this is relevant but a few days ago they had a piece on Teemu Lassila on swedish TV, talked about him player much better this season blabla and I believe they talked to someone in Djurgårdens organisation about him and he said they Lassila was pretty poorly trained when he came over from Finland and one of the reasons he improved his play was because he got a full preseason this year compared to last...

Might not be of value but I thought it could be interesting in regards of your post.

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I don't know if this is relevant but a few days ago they had a piece on Teemu Lassila on swedish TV, talked about him player much better this season blabla and I believe they talked to someone in Djurgårdens organisation about him and he said they Lassila was pretty poorly trained when he came over from Finland and one of the reasons he improved his play was because he got a full preseason this year compared to last...

Might not be of value but I thought it could be interesting in regards of your post.
Well considering to goalies Finland is prolly number one in the world now. So it's not about training quality in that aspect. But I think there is wrong kind of physical training for finnish players as youth. Goalies are training invidually, so that's different thing too. Ie. they may have much goalie coaching, but not much/good physical coaching. Maybe you ment physical training too, not goalie skillvise. Since in that aspect Finland is beating ie. Sweden 100-0.

But there is one another thing to consideration. In Finland players are training a lot than when they are going over to NHL. They are having totally new rythm. They are playing a lot and not training too much. So it might mean that their bodies are easier to get some kind of damage. I think finnish teams are training MUCH more physics than ie. in Chezch. So maybe they are in that way a bit overtraining themselfs and without all the training it's backfiring them. Or training is just wrong kind of training in physical ways.

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Im kind of nervous cause I picked him in my pool !!
Two consecutive shutouts... and you're nervous?
Kari Lehtonen is going to be a force this year.
Watch out, everyone!

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I guess it needn't be said but when healthy, Kari is awesome. He reminds me very much of Dryden in his mannerisms and style (somewhat).

Kari has the skill, technique and temperment to be a superstar. The issue now is consistency and health/endurance. If Kari shows these characteristics, then watch out.

A workhorse goalie can carry a team pretty darn far. Man, I love what I see in him!

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Man, I love what I see in him!
So do all of us

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Lot of Lehtonen picture on NHL.com stat page!

Lehtonen lead in 3 out of 4 goalie category. Well he is actually tie on the 4th one (win).

Oh, Andy Sutton is there too as +/- leader! So fun to see that! Now hopefully it will last!!!

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Kari's shutout even made the front page of yahoo sports.

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Well considering to goalies Finland is prolly number one in the world now. So it's not about training quality in that aspect. But I think there is wrong kind of physical training for finnish players as youth. Goalies are training invidually, so that's different thing too. Ie. they may have much goalie coaching, but not much/good physical coaching. Maybe you ment physical training too, not goalie skillvise. Since in that aspect Finland is beating ie. Sweden 100-0.

But there is one another thing to consideration. In Finland players are training a lot than when they are going over to NHL. They are having totally new rythm. They are playing a lot and not training too much. So it might mean that their bodies are easier to get some kind of damage. I think finnish teams are training MUCH more physics than ie. in Chezch. So maybe they are in that way a bit overtraining themselfs and without all the training it's backfiring them. Or training is just wrong kind of training in physical ways.
Yeah ofcourse I meant how well he was trained physically, not skillwise, what does that have with the argument about players getting hurt?

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Yeah ofcourse I meant how well he was trained physically, not skillwise, what does that have with the argument about players getting hurt?
Nothing, but you just said "he wasn't trained well". Don't know if in Sweden, but at least in Finland there is goalie coaches already for guys who are like 7years or so. They are having own training schedules and those are mainly just about flexibility, not same kind of condition as other players.

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at the clip he's going he will have more shutouts than the flyers have wins.
Which is a good thing, cause if you go see my profile, you'll find out I'm a Thrashers fan (in fact, like you, a Thrashers-Habs fan). I like the Flyers, but don't really care. Rebound Bob was just too funny an avatar.

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Nothing, but you just said "he wasn't trained well". Don't know if in Sweden, but at least in Finland there is goalie coaches already for guys who are like 7years or so. They are having own training schedules and those are mainly just about flexibility, not same kind of condition as other players.
Might just have been Lassila then? I just remember that he was poorly trained when he came to Sweden, physically, whatever it depends on I don't know. Just thought I would put it in since some guy asked about finns and injuries. Lame to make a "Finn goalies are better than swedes".

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Might just have been Lassila then? I just remember that he was poorly trained when he came to Sweden, physically, whatever it depends on I don't know. Just thought I would put it in since some guy asked about finns and injuries. Lame to make a "Finn goalies are better than swedes".
It's not just Lassila, there have been problems with finnish goalies and I think it's something to do with that fact they are so focusing on goaliethings that they might not train goalies as atheletes, but only as goalies. So it's good that you did show that point correct.

And I don't think it's lame, since it's fact. Just watch how many finnish goalies are ie. in Swedish leagues. And there is 0 in finnish. And how many goalies are from Sweden in NHL. Or how many top prospect goalies Finland have produced in last couple of years compared to Swedish goalies.

It's just simple fact. Same as Sweden have much more top notch offensive players&offensive talents. Same time as Finland have more 3rd/4th liners. And Sweden have had better defs. I don't think there is something lame to state simple facts.

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It's not just Lassila, there have been problems with finnish goalies and I think it's something to do with that fact they are so focusing on goaliethings that they might not train goalies as atheletes, but only as goalies. So it's good that you did show that point correct.

And I don't think it's lame, since it's fact. Just watch how many finnish goalies are ie. in Swedish leagues. And there is 0 in finnish. And how many goalies are from Sweden in NHL. Or how many top prospect goalies Finland have produced in last couple of years compared to Swedish goalies.

It's just simple fact. Same as Sweden have much more top notch offensive players&offensive talents. Same time as Finland have more 3rd/4th liners. And Sweden have had better defs. I don't think there is something lame to state simple facts.
It is lame since I didn't critize finnish goalies or anything, you just saw that I was swede and had to jump on me because of that. You probably misread and thought I was critizing and then had to attack, that is why I think it was a lame post.

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DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK!

yaaaaaaay Kari!!!



I have him on three fantasy teams....and we're kicking butt!!

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DEFENSIVE PLAYER OF THE WEEK!

yaaaaaaay Kari!!!



I have him on three fantasy teams....and we're kicking butt!!
Some of the speculation regarding Kari - will he be healthy, is he playoff material? Who knows, now? I believe but I'm a fan [albeit a somewhatknowledgeable fan, IMHO]...

Some mention him with Patrick Roy [], but if he really is the real deal we can go a long way with a Stanley-caliber goalie...most of the smart people concur, the question is if he's past the groin problems [wash my mouth out with soap, I said it]

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i dont think having lehtonen is really fair to the opposing teams...he is very impressive to say the least ...

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Wow ... thats all I can say. Lehtonen has been absolutley unreal for us. I know personally I was starting to lose faith in him, but the last couple games have really shown that their might be more potential there than anyone could have even guessed at! I mean honestly, has he even let up an even strength goal yet?

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