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Would Yanic Perreault clear waivers?

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11-22-2003, 04:31 AM
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you'll be surprise when trade deadline come...
I have no doubt of that.

Can anyone tell me that a potential play-off team that would be playing Perrault? If there's an injury, something might happen - but IMO, Perrault's a typical good player on a bad team.

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11-22-2003, 06:39 AM
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in heartbeat, im sure 90% of teams would make a bid.

his a good faceoff guy, a solid scorer and half decent all round player, just think, if malhorta and wiemer get claimed, can anyone REALLY tell me YP wouldnt?

$2.8 s cheap.

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in heartbeat, im sure 90% of teams would make a bid.

his a good faceoff guy, a solid scorer and half decent all round player, just think, if malhorta and wiemer get claimed, can anyone REALLY tell me YP wouldnt?

$2.8 s cheap.
Malhotra makes 1/3 of what Perrault does, and still has upside potential. Weimer is a great 3rd line player. He might not have Perrault's offensive abilities, but he's very responsible in his own zone and plays a physical game. Perrault does none of those things. He's not a good enough offensive player to justify top 2 line icetime on a play-off team, and he's not a good enough defensive player to play on a 3rd line. He's also extremely inconsistent.

90% of the teams would mean that 3 teams wouldn't claim him. Right off the bat I'd say that DET, COL, NJ, OTT, PHI, DAL, STL, TB & VAN wouldn't claim him becasue he wouldn't be playing on a scoring line. Then I would bet that FLA, EDM, CAL, CHI, NASH, CLM, & MINN wouldn't pick him up because of the salary involved.

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Perreault's strengths (2):

Faceoffs
Sniper shot

Perreault's weaknesses (x-2 where x is the number of skills/abilities a hockey player can be attributed.. j/k but it's pretty close to the reality though ... ) :

Streaky scorer
Slow skater
No defense and when he tries he is ineffective
No hitting, grit
Small
Poor system player
Floater
Professional puck dumper
Momentum killer (lack of intensity)
Doesn't go in the corners and doesn't fight for the puck
His line is almost always dominated by the opposition

(and the list goes on....)

I usually call him the 2-tools center, a faceoff and scoring specialist. Unfortunately, in the NHL today, defense is a bigger part of the game and even a bigger part in a defensive system. He is not a top-6 forward nor is the protoype 3rd liner and certainly not an energy guy. I wouldn't go as far as calling him AHL material though. I wish Perreault gets traded, at least Ribeiro goes in the corner, can hit and showed some improvement in his defensive game overall & commitment to the system. I wouldn't give $2M for a player who brings so little to the table and is usually a constant liability on ice.

With Begin being a good faceoff man and his line not being a liability defensively, I think Perreault's faceoff skill are not so important anymore with Begin and the fact that winning the puck is important but if the center cannot play defense and the center is prone to constant giveaways, it limits the usefulness of the skill. We don't see Perreault on the PK where puck possession in pretty important and I wouldn't want to have Perreault on the ice in the last minutes of a tight game as well which makes his faceoff skills less useful than a player with a slighly lower faceoff % and better overall skills (see Brind'Amour for example).

I don't care if you can score 20-25 goals when you are playing one-way hockey and are an almost-useless (see:faceoff) liability on ice most of the time you don't score a goal in a game. Our games without him were the most physical games by the Habs and by a fair margin. It is easier to take control of a game and having a consistant pace when you don't have Perreault's backbreaking shifts (in term of intensity) killing the pace or the momentum you are trying to create.

Perreault's weaknesses outweight his (2) strenghts and I think the habs can compete equally well without Perreault and his 2.8 million contract.

Perreault is worth only what a gm is dumb enough to give for him. I'm pretty sure Gainey would already have made a deal if he received any kind of offers on the table, Perreault is not needed anymore in Montreal and will be dealt if Gainey receives any deal for him IMO. I don't know if he would clear waivers but I know I will be a happy man when Perreault changes hands.

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Perreault is worth only what a gm is dumb enough to give for him. I'm pretty sure Gainey would already have made a deal if he received any kind of offers on the table, Perreault is not needed anymore in Montreal and will be dealt if Gainey receives any deal for him IMO. I don't know if he would clear waivers but I know I will be a happy man when Perreault changes hands.
I know Briesbois has a no trade clause, but does Perreault have one aswell?......heard somewhere he did, but can't remember if it was reliable.

If YP does have a no trade clause, Gainey might aswell just put him on waivers, so he doesn't have to go through a big song and dance with Perreault and his agent.

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I know Briesbois has a no trade clause, but does Perreault have one aswell?......heard somewhere he did, but can't remember if it was reliable.

If YP does have a no trade clause, Gainey might aswell just put him on waivers, so he doesn't have to go through a big song and dance with Perreault and his agent.
I beleive Brisebois is the only Habs with a NTC.

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I wonder why most people don't seem to like him. He is great on faceoffs and can add around 20-25+ goals a year. $2.8 million a year is overpaying, but he is a decent player. If he made $1 million lots of teams would want him. I doubt he would pass through waivers.

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I wonder why most people don't seem to like him. He is great on faceoffs and can add around 20-25+ goals a year. $2.8 million a year is overpaying, but he is a decent player. If he made $1 million lots of teams would want him. I doubt he would pass through waivers.
I don't like Perreault because he's soft like no other. This is personal. It doesn't mean he's horrible because truth is, he's pretty good at what he does: winning faceoffs and putting it in from in close, mostly on the PP. He's a one-dimensional specialist. But he's a pain to watch 5 on 5 because he's no more useful than a traffic cone without the puck and is bellow average to down right horrible defensively depending on his implication in the game.

It doesn't mean no team wants him though. I don't like him because I like fast-paced, intense, gritty and tough physical hockey and you will never see anything remotely close to this coming out of Perreault. He never goes in the corners and is like a turtle out there. He built his career on being the strongest of the league in the playoff circle and being intelligent offensively in his positioning, being able to get to the right place at the right time to consistently score 25 goals a year.

Again, not the kind of player that I enjoy to watch, but there's no doubt Perreault will always give you his 25 goals and 60% faceoff won. If a given team is looking after just that, he's the man.

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