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11-19-2003, 08:46 PM
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Manny Malholtra on Waivers

Should we pick him up guys? He makes a little too much for a 4th liner which we have a decent 4th line already here .Here's the link .
http://www.dallasstars.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=814

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I bet 2$ , Gainey take him .

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Gee I hope you won't win your 2 Bucks if we pick him up who do we drop ? Sundstrom/Dackell/Perrault ,He's an expensive 4th liner but I do agree he would be an upgrade over these guys up here .and younger too.

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Gainey won't claim him..

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Gee I hope you won't win your 2 Bucks if we pick him up who do we drop ? Sundstrom/Dackell/Perrault ,He's an expensive 4th liner but I do agree he would be an upgrade over these guys up here .and younger too.
He could take Bulis's spot on the checking line and we could move Bulis into a scoring line and get rid of Audette. We'd get bigger, faster, younger, stronger and better defensively overnight. It would cost money tho.

Malhotra would also be the heir to Juneau, something we desperately need.

Then again, does that leave openings for our kids in Hamilton down the road? Yes, because we lose Perreault, Juneau, Sundstrom and Dackell after this year. So we have to start bringing some of the kids along this year, but there will also be spots open for next year.


THIS YEAR:
Zednik-Koivu-Ryder
Bulis-Ribeiro-Hossa
Malhotra-Juneau-Dackell
Kilger/Langdon-Begin-Ward
Sundstrom
Audette
Perreault

Depends what Gainey thinks Malhotra's upside still is. He's still only 23.

NEXT YEAR:
Zednik(RFA)-Koivu-Ryder
Bulis-Ribeiro-Hossa(RFA)
Higgins-Malhotra-Ward
Kilger-Begin-Langdon
Plekanec
Gratton

It could make sense.

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Gee I hope you won't win your 2 Bucks if we pick him up who do we drop ? Sundstrom/Dackell/Perrault ,He's an expensive 4th liner but I do agree he would be an upgrade over these guys up here .and younger too.
Well if we can get rid of Perreault and Audette for picks, I would not mind having Malhotra....but we can do without him. I want to see Langdon pick it up physically on the fourth line and be a real spark plug....Begin does it for the most part but Langer has to start to do it more consistently as well(dirty work)

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I wouldn't mind Malhotra. I think he's an upgrade over Juneau as he's much bigger and very physical, and he's very fast too. Not much offensive upside but still, a definite upgrade in the 3rd line center capacity. Very underrated defensive skills IMO. Shows more character and grit than Kilger so comparing the two is irrelevant. I take Malhotra over Kilger in a defensive role without blinking.

So the question is not can he help us, but are we ready to take on additional salary. Because maybe we can trade Perreault, but the rest we're stuck with. If we place guys like Audette, Juneau, Dackell on waivers, they will clear, meaning we won't be able to get rid of their salaries.

Nonetheless, I cannot beleive Gainey is pleased with the actual lineup, size and grit wise, so Malhotra would be a welcomed addition. I would take a chance on him. Those can pay sometimes, especially considering he's only 23yo and has been misused in Dallas.

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the problem is he will probably be gone by the time mtl can put a claim on him

pittsburgh will take him if they can sell a shipment of sticks on e-bay to muster up the 50K

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I wouldn't mind Malhotra. I think he's an upgrade over Juneau as he's much bigger and very physical, and he's very fast too. Not much offensive upside but still, a definite upgrade in the 3rd line center capacity. Very underrated defensive skills IMO. Shows more character and grit than Kilger so comparing the two is irrelevant. I take Malhotra over Kilger in a defensive role without blinking.

So the question is not can he help us, but are we ready to take on additional salary. Because maybe we can trade Perreault, but the rest we're stuck with. If we place guys like Audette, Juneau, Dackell on waivers, they will clear, meaning we won't be able to get rid of their salaries.

Nonetheless, I cannot beleive Gainey is pleased with the actual lineup, size and grit wise, so Malhotra would be a welcomed addition. I would take a chance on him. Those can pay sometimes, especially considering he's only 23yo and has been misused in Dallas.
I would agree with your analysis. Some questions I would have though if Montreal were to consider picking up Malhotra:

- Who would suit?
- What would the lineup look like?
- Who would be sent down to the farm?

My guess is Hossa would be sent down, since he doesn't need to clear waivers. I'd hate to see this done.

The lineup? Malhotra would likely be forced to play wing, which isn't his domain.

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KOMO-Rocks started the thread that too many guys take liberties on theo

i was wondering if manny is the kind of guy that will take exception to guys like matt cook and straighten them out

any thoughts?

we surley need help in that department

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I definately wouldn't mind if BG picked up Malholtra and his contract I beleive is only 950K a year (which Dallas has already paided a portion of).

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I definately wouldn't mind if BG picked up Malholtra and his contract I beleive is only 950K a year (which Dallas has already paided a portion of).
The guy is still relatively young and is a decent defensive forward. I'd take a chance on him. He can't be worst then some of the other guys we have in our lineup.

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Does anyone know what his contract looks like? Time left, and salary.

The reason, I have no problem with bringing in another big guy with a mean streak, but he has to fit into the salary structure. He has to be making around the league average, otherwise he is too expensive. I would rather pick up low buck guys for the 3rd and 4th line so that we will have the $$ to get/pay first line guys.

Plus we would have to get rid of at least one NHL body, if not two. The roster is full.

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11-20-2003, 05:25 AM
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Malhotra would replace Chad Kilger and be a huge upgrade in the intensity, defensive awareness and physical play categories.

If no team that has priority selection puts a claim in on him in the next 48 hours, I will be diappointed if the Habs don't pick him up.

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Does anyone know what his contract looks like? Time left, and salary.
I believe he is in the last year of a contract that pays him $950,000 a year.

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I believe he is in the last year of a contract that pays him $950,000 a year.
I say grab him then!

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I believe he is in the last year of a contract that pays him $950,000 a year.

it's actually $1 050 000 but again, about a fifth or a quarter has been paid and there is no way he will get that kind of money again if his contract is up this summer

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I would like to see him as a habs...

He is still very young.. Great size. Great in defense. Not much offensive upside.... But who knows, with ice time, MAYBE....

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Malhotra Upgrade over Juneau GIMME A BREAK.
Speed, grit, age and size wise, he is a clear improvement. And Malhotra is at least as good defensively as Juneau is. He was one of the best defensive forwards available when drafted. I don't understand why he was picked up that high but again, very strong defensive center. So yes, a definite upgrade. You either overrate Juneau's abilities or underrate Malhotra's.

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Hmm....I'm not sure that Malhotra would solve any problems
for the Habs. As much as I dislike Juneau, and hope that
he won't be offered another contract with the Habs next season,
the fiscally smart option would be to pass on Malhotra.

I usually advocate taking a chance on younger players who
haven't found their way in this league. But, Malhotra doesn't
seem to offer much to a team. He's not particularly good at
any one thing, and in the NHL that's an important attribute.
He has good size, but he's not one of the biggest players. He
is supposed to be a good skater, but I personally don't
recall him being much more than an average skater. He's
supposed to have good defensive skills, but several other
players in Dallas & NY have taken over that role while
Malhotra has been there.
I think he'll end up a journeyman player, or an AHL star.
For next season, when Juneau is hopefully gone, I'd rather
see a guy like Plekanec, who is a similar player to Juneau
right now, with an offensive upside too, make the pro team.
If the Habs were hit hard by a lot of longer-term injuries, especially to their defensive forwards, then claiming Malhotra would be justified. Right now, it's not.

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I have one more bit of information to add to this discussion.
Here's a URL to a recent story [Oct.25] that talks about
Malhotra and his role with the Stars. Although he's a hard
worker in practice, he hasn't been able to apply it well
to real games.
http://www.txcn.com/sharedcontent/da...ars.3a76c.html

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pretty neutral to this one...

I personally feel we have a lot of 4th line players on our team already with Begin, Kilger, Landon, sundstrom, dackell, ward ,when he comes back. The only thing that intrigues me is his speed, size, leadership and grit. He is young still, with a bit of confidence and teaching, he can become a very good third line center for years to come. You know what, you pick him up, give him the chance to produce this year, if he doesn't, you don't qualify him and let him become a UFA. I still don't know if he is worth the rest of his salary which is 850,000 for the remainder approx. It is a tough call.......

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Big, fast twenty-three rear-old character player with good defensive abilities and reasonabley priced? So, why is he on waivers?

Pass.

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If there's currently no room in the lineup for Hossa, Plekanec and Higgins, all offensive upgrades over some of the drek currently taking up roster space, why would there suddenly be room for Malhotra, who may even have less offensive upside than Kilger?

If the Canadiens are unwilling to eat contracts right now, then there's no room at the inn. If they WOULD be willing to eat a contract or two, then there are players in Hamilton right now that are better than Malhotra is right now. Malhotra needs to go down to the AHL and find his game, because he's pretty useless at the NHL level these days.

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