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10-14-2006, 02:46 PM
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Sandis Ozolinsh

Yes Ranger fans I know that the mention of his name sends you into a fit that might leave you without a TV Remote, but where is he??? Furthermore, why is his name still on the roster and why is he still practicing with the team. He had to have breached his contract with his little incident over the summer. Can we not get rid of him? Or even scarier, can he help our power play out? He cant be any worse than Mr. Thomas Poti.

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He had his kne reconstructed over the summer and he HAS started skating with the team, but probably won't be back for another month. The only way to get rid of him would be through a trade but think he could give the powerplay a much needed shot in the arm... as long as Renney doesn't use him on the PK, he'll make a difference.

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He might be back sooner than a month, i read something the other day that he had skated and had no swelling in his knee for the third straight day which is a sign that he is close to training with the team in full practice. He has skated in plenty of off-hour physical tests, with Kaspar and has beaten out Kaspar with ease.

I wouldnt be surprised if they get him into the lineup sooner than you think especially with the PowerPlay lacking its luster the way it is and Kaspar and now Roszival both being day to day, meaning one might get some days off even if healthy in the future.

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As bad on D as he is, he would help the pp, anyone would.

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He might be back sooner than a month, i read something the other day that he had skated and had no swelling in his knee for the third straight day which is a sign that he is close to training with the team in full practice. He has skated in plenty of off-hour physical tests, with Kaspar and has beaten out Kaspar with ease.

I wouldnt be surprised if they get him into the lineup sooner than you think especially with the PowerPlay lacking its luster the way it is and Kaspar and now Roszival both being day to day, meaning one might get some days off even if healthy in the future.
Good information. I'm worried about Kaspar... Rozsival is still day-to-day? I remember Kaspar hade the same procedure last season and played the same night. Maybe his scope was less complicated.

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The only way I see him playing for the Rangers is if he's a powerplay specialist. He's just not good enough defensively to get a regular shift. I heard that Bryan Berard still has back problems, and that the Blue Jackets might be in the market for a powerplay quarterback. Maybe Sather could swing a deal with MacLean and send Ozo to Columbus for a draft pick.

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Well maybe he could get limited 5-on-5 shifts and it would increase if we're really kicking ***. What he seems to need is a reliable stay-home partner to neutraliize his defensive mistakes... he'd be good with A. Ward, IMO.

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Yes Ranger fans I know that the mention of his name sends you into a fit that might leave you without a TV Remote, but where is he??? Furthermore, why is his name still on the roster and why is he still practicing with the team. He had to have breached his contract with his little incident over the summer. Can we not get rid of him? Or even scarier, can he help our power play out? He cant be any worse than Mr. Thomas Poti.
Welcome to the boards, Zach.

At this point, I'd be open to anything really... I say we give Ozo a shot on the power play, and if that doesn't work, we go after Leetch. This team needs a real pointman, and one that's a DEFENSEMAN. I know Ozolinsh is average defensively, but he's a better option than Rozsival, who doesn't skate back when he commits a turnover on the blueline, and Straka, who I've seen get beaten one-on-one like a redheaded stepchild with a mullet.

Something's gotta give.

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He had his kne reconstructed over the summer and he HAS started skating with the team, but probably won't be back for another month. The only way to get rid of him would be through a trade but think he could give the powerplay a much needed shot in the arm... as long as Renney doesn't use him on the PK, he'll make a difference.
Exactly, he needs to be with a defensive defenseman, and not on the pk. Basically even-strength, 4-on-4, and power play. The same way I'd pretty much use Leetch if we had him.

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He might be back sooner than a month, i read something the other day that he had skated and had no swelling in his knee for the third straight day which is a sign that he is close to training with the team in full practice. He has skated in plenty of off-hour physical tests, with Kaspar and has beaten out Kaspar with ease.

I wouldnt be surprised if they get him into the lineup sooner than you think especially with the PowerPlay lacking its luster the way it is and Kaspar and now Roszival both being day to day, meaning one might get some days off even if healthy in the future.
Let Roseyballs take his time, I've had enough of watching him between his time with the Pens, last season, and this season.

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The only way I see him playing for the Rangers is if he's a powerplay specialist. He's just not good enough defensively to get a regular shift. I heard that Bryan Berard still has back problems, and that the Blue Jackets might be in the market for a powerplay quarterback. Maybe Sather could swing a deal with MacLean and send Ozo to Columbus for a draft pick.
Exactly.

Let's worry about trading him when our defense is healthy though.

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Well maybe he could get limited 5-on-5 shifts and it would increase if we're really kicking ***. What he seems to need is a reliable stay-home partner to neutraliize his defensive mistakes... he'd be good with A. Ward, IMO.
Exactly, couldn't have said it any better.

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The Rangers could also send him through waivers if they didn't want him now.

Wouldn't surprise me to see him get some playing time though. But something eventually has to give on defense, so someone's gonna get traded or moved in one way or another

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he has to be given a chance

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The only way I see him playing for the Rangers is if he's a powerplay specialist. He's just not good enough defensively to get a regular shift.
He should fit right in

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he could do it but i still want to see what cullen can do from the point...

he did win a cup doing it
and he did break a big piece off the glass behind the net in pre season

lets see it =p


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if the Rangers play...

continues like this, and the PP continues to look like it has, Ozo will be there in no time, taking Pock's spot and Rozy's on the PP (which may not be a bad move - I don't know why Rozsival's on the PP - he's just not good at keeping the puck in the zone). Sill surprised Pock hasn't gotten play there.

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Ozolinsh will fit into the team very well I think, especially if his knee is all better. The new NHL is perfect for a guy like him to do some serious damage on the power play.

He should only be out there in offensive situations and then he'd be a valuable asset to a team without any good puck movers on the blue line.

Putting Ozolinsh on the PK is simply a sign of poor coaching. Why would you do that?

On an unrelated note, why is it so difficult to find out how close he is to coming back? I rarely see any reports anywhere as to a legitimate time frame for his return.

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i don't know if this will help anybody but i found it on spectors this morning seeing as how i didn't catch all of monday night's game...


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Thanks to "Derek" for the following on the Rangers: "During last night's MSG broadcast it was noted that Sandis Ozolinsh is close to returning to the Rangers and is taking his return day by day. This would a) leave the Rangers with 7 veteran NHL defensemen in addition to Tomas Pock, who looks ready to play at the NHL level and b) nix any notion of a Brian Leetch encore at the Garden. It also might lead one to speculate that Glen Sather may be considering a trade, as whomever is the odd man out is going to be an unhappy camper in New York."

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Can they even trade Ozolinsh? Does anyone even WANT him?!

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There is of course a huge questionmark concerning Ozolinsh form and mental well beeing. I defenitly don't see Renney benching Rachunek, for Ozo, if Ozo haven't settled every issue out perfectly.

We will see. But I would consider it a upset if Ozolinsh takes a regular spot on this team.

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The Rangers have had several more "offensive" defensemen

on the team this year than last year, but that has not changed the fact that Rozsival and Straka man the points. The Rangers best defesemen from the point is probably Pock and he did not get a sniff. Rachunek was ostensibly signed due to his offensive prowers, but he has not been able to supplant either Rozsival or Straka. I have no idea of how Ozolinsh will be able to.

The problem with Ozolinsh is two-fold. First of all, his defensive game is SO bad that it does not begin to make up the ground on any offensive boost he can provide. Scoring has not been the problem for the Rangers this year, the defensive game has. Ozolinsh, and his tendencies to pass to the other team just as often as he does to his own, will not help this team where it truly needs the help.
Second of all, the minute that they take him off of the long-term injury list, he will immediately count against the cap. That's a rather hefty amount to tie up your roster with and limit any flexibility that the team has. Then there is the question of whom does he replace? The only two realistic choices, IMO, are either Tyutin or Rachunek. Scratching the player who makes the least amount of money is the usual Rangers mo. But would the Rangers really risk sitting Tyutin so that the defensive horror show that is Ozolinsh can play? Or the other choice is Rachunek. But again, it is sheer idiocy to have a $2m 7th defenseman.

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Ozolinsh had major knee surgery four months ago when the recovery period for that type of injury is six months.However,it takes longer than six months for the player to feel 100%.Which defensemen is going to sit out to play Ozolinsh?IMO,the Rangers are just biding their time until Ozolinsh is good enough to play and they will place him on waivers.If he clears,he will join Hartford.It makes no cents()having Ozolinsh on the roster eating up valuable cap space.The Rangers are just trying to make it look good so they don't raise any reg flags

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Second of all, the minute that they take him off of the long-term injury list, he will immediately count against the cap. That's a rather hefty amount to tie up your roster with and limit any flexibility that the team has
Actually Ozolinsh is currently eating up cap space.So is Jed Ortmeyer.The LTI is designed for teams which are near or at the limit and the teams go over the cap with the replacement(s)for the player(s)on LTI.The Rangers are at $42.5/$42.6 million w/Ozolinsh and Ortmeyer.The Rangers are not at or near the $44 million.So they not qualify.If the Rangers put both players on LTI,the Rangers would be near $39 million.The Rangers would need to bring $5 million worth of player or players to get any benefit of LTI

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Putting Ozolinsh on the PK is simply a sign of poor coaching. Why would you do that?
Not only was he being used on the PK, he actually lead all defensemen on the team in ice time for a good while before he fell apart. He was pulling down 26 minutes of ice... this after not playing the first half of the season because of knee surgery and time in the substance abuse program.

As for if/when he returns... Steve Zipay speculated in his blog this a.m. that Ozo would rejoin the team in time for the west coast trip that kicks off Oct 29th.

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While Ozo would definelty be better at the point than Straka, I don't wanna see him in Ranger blue ever again. He is the worst Defensman we have, hands down. I would much rather have Potti back than that clown. He's going to get boo'd like crazy in the Garden, Renney better not play him!

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He cant be any worse than Mr. Thomas Poti.
that's been proven very wrong.

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that's been proven very wrong.
Certainly true. Ozolinsh's performace made me fondly remember the days of Ulanov and Karpa.

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