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10-02-2006, 11:51 AM
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It's funny. On draft day, Jacques Martin wanted Weiss at number 2 (behind Kovalchuk). He wanted him bad.

Upper-management ignored him and went with Spezza.
Do you have a source for this? Not trying to doubt you, but I've never heard that before.

I must say, Weiss visibly looks faster on the ice. Coming from a fan who hadn't seen him play in nearly a year (just like the rest of us), that says something. I think he will have a pretty good year.

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I'll be honest with you and most people on this board will highly disagree with me.

Stephen Weiss is a bust. He's injury prone and will not play more than 3/4 of the season (62 games). If he does, I swear I'll leave these boards forever.
i don't think he's a bust. He's had some though breaks, but to say that a guy who's still young and has injury problems a bust would mean that Horton is also a bust.

As I already posted, special teams is much better with him on the ice, not sure that translates into "bust." That's a word that gets thrown around WAY to much. People thought Brees was a bust, too, he sure has done well in the NFL.

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I'll be honest with you and most people on this board will highly disagree with me.

Stephen Weiss is a bust. He's injury prone and will not play more than 3/4 of the season (62 games). If he does, I swear I'll leave these boards forever.
I guess im looking forward to your goodbye then

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I'd say he gets 45-50 Points this year. If he doesn't get injured.

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10-10-2006, 10:46 PM
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Juraj Kolnik's playing time

Hi guys!

My first post here, but I'm reading you for a long time. I'm a big Panthers' fan from Montréal. I went to see 3 games at the BAC last march.

So what do you think of Juraj Kolnik playing time so far? I don't know, but I think he deserve more ice time. This guy can score goals, but he needs more than 10 minutes per game, including 5 on PK, to really show what he can do.

P.S.: sorry for the poor english, french is my first language.

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10-10-2006, 10:50 PM
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Hi guys!

My first post here, but I'm reading you for a long time. I'm a big Panthers' fan from Montréal. I went to see 3 games at the BAC last march.

So what do you think of Juraj Kolnik playing time so far? I don't know, but I think he deserve more ice time. This guy can score goals, but he needs more than 10 minutes per game, including 5 on PK, to really show what he can do.

P.S.: sorry for the poor english, french is my first language.
he's a good role player, but there's not much of a reason why he should get more ice time as a RW than Stumpel, Bert and/or Horton. Kolnik, on most teams, is a third liner.

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10-11-2006, 02:12 AM
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Martin stifled the offensive abilities of many a Sen player. Don't expect anything different now. He is a defense-first coach. Kolnik is underutilized on anything lower than the 2nd line. How a team like Florida, which rolls 4 scoring-capable lines, manages 1 goal in 2 games is mind-boggling and means 1 of 2 things: Martin isn't all that great at line combos or he is putting the reigns on his forwards with his 'two-way-play' overemphasis. Could be both.

when you look at this team on paper, if things don't get better, i'm going to revert to my original notions of what kind of coach martin is.

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10-11-2006, 07:31 AM
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Martin stifled the offensive abilities of many a Sen player. Don't expect anything different now. He is a defense-first coach. Kolnik is underutilized on anything lower than the 2nd line. How a team like Florida, which rolls 4 scoring-capable lines, manages 1 goal in 2 games is mind-boggling and means 1 of 2 things: Martin isn't all that great at line combos or he is putting the reigns on his forwards with his 'two-way-play' overemphasis. Could be both.

when you look at this team on paper, if things don't get better, i'm going to revert to my original notions of what kind of coach martin is.
Martin did manage to get a gem out of Olesz-Newy-Bertuzzi, then again it's clear Newy would have chemistry with almost anyone. Bertuzzi has a great shot but has maybe even better passing, something that Newy will not miss given the right chance. The concern now is the top line isn't clicking anymore. Roberts-Jokinen-Stumpel just isn't happening, and the line combos may need to be shifted. I realize we're only 3 games in, but not much of an excuse for a line that played together a lot last year. Might want to consider Stumpel on the left of Jokinen and moving up Horton, which could make room for Kolnik on the 3rd line. Might even try a bruisier line of Roberts-Newy-Bertuzzi, where they could get more point potential but will lose a little speed without Olesz. Olesz is more of a 3rd or 4th liner anyway even though he has great talent, but is not really far along enough to garner those 2nd line minutes. Regardless he'll get them back as soon as Roberts gets injured anyway, but right now the only sure chemistry is Newy-Bertuzzi and Jokinen-Stumpel which hasn't produced more than one goal anyway yet. Gotta have faster guys that can break out of the zone and not screw up those passes, it takes away our chances on net. So maybe...

Stumpel-Jokinen-Horton
Roberts-Nieuwendyk-Bertuzzi
Olesz-Weiss-Kolnik
Gelinas-Gratton-Campbell

Really again there's no weak line there especially when Peltonen can come in, as long as they roll 4 lines they will have a chance to score.

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10-11-2006, 03:19 PM
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Bertuzzi so far?

How has he looked?

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10-11-2006, 04:16 PM
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Hi guys!

My first post here, but I'm reading you for a long time. I'm a big Panthers' fan from Montréal. I went to see 3 games at the BAC last march.

So what do you think of Juraj Kolnik playing time so far? I don't know, but I think he deserve more ice time. This guy can score goals, but he needs more than 10 minutes per game, including 5 on PK, to really show what he can do.

P.S.: sorry for the poor english, french is my first language.
I am from montreal too and of course a big panthers fan

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10-11-2006, 04:59 PM
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Panthers rock, i was thinking hte exact same thing EXACT SAME THING

stumpel, not to attack him, has done WELL in the faceoff circle, but has been a bump on the log on the 1st line. i figure why not throw horton on the top line and let him explode with jokinen..

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10-11-2006, 05:06 PM
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He looked good in game 1 but for games 2 and 3 he hasn't really made too much of a splash but of course the whole team hasn't so you can't blame him too much. It's too early to really get a good idea.

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Yah, Stumpel seems to be playing the exact same way he did at the beginning of last season...unenthusiastic. We'll see what happens tonight.

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10-11-2006, 09:15 PM
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Bert has 1 goal and 6 assists in 4 games. The story though has been Auld he is playing simply amazing! But Bert has been great with us. Passing the puck more then I thought he would.

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Ive been very happy with Bert so far. When he has the puck, he is so difficult to knock off. He has good vision for a big man, really knows how to pass the puck. And Im sure his goal scoring is going to be fine as the season progresses.

I have to say though that Alex the Great has been sensational. I didnt question his abilities before the season started, but I didnt think that he was going to be this impressive so soon. His lateral movement, which has been quesitoned, has been good, and he hasnt given up to many "cheap" goals. If he can continue to play like this, it will make the trade look so much better, and we will be a playoff team cause once this team gels, we are going to be dangerous. Just watch!

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ha, thats funny, im from montreal too, also big panther fan and big kolnik fan

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Bon jour to all of our Panthers fans in Montreal! Yay!

Also, isn't Stumpel kind of known for being streaky? I know he was really good for us last year but hasn't that always been the rap on him?

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Stifling offense?

Through 4 games (with one a shutout loss and scoring one goal in another):
(player pos. g a pts)
Todd Bertuzzi RW 1 6 7
Olli Jokinen C 3 3 6
Gary Roberts LW 2 2 4
Stephen Weiss C 2 2 4
Joe Nieuwendyk C 2 1 3 (3 games)
Jozef Stumpel C 0 3 3
etc.
Team Total: 15 goals 26 assists 41 points
Scoring rate per game (and yes, a hell of a standard deviation):
3.75 goals 6.5 assists 10.25 points

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Stifling offense?

Through 4 games (with one a shutout loss and scoring one goal in another):

go no further. BTW, look up the word "skewed."

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Ive been very happy with Bert so far. When he has the puck, he is so difficult to knock off. He has good vision for a big man, really knows how to pass the puck. And Im sure his goal scoring is going to be fine as the season progresses.

I have to say though that Alex the Great has been sensational. I didnt question his abilities before the season started, but I didnt think that he was going to be this impressive so soon. His lateral movement, which has been quesitoned, has been good, and he hasnt given up to many "cheap" goals. If he can continue to play like this, it will make the trade look so much better, and we will be a playoff team cause once this team gels, we are going to be dangerous. Just watch!
I agree completely, you guys are in for a treat this year, but one thing I disagree with is him being difficult to knock off the puck, more like impossible... he is a big guy and strong as an ox, and Auld no doubt will keep you guys competitive.. I wont be surprised when Bertuzzi's hits 100 points this year... you guys should definetly be playoff bound...

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go no further. BTW, look up the word "skewed."
Don't need to, as I know what it means. However, in this case it would be more Bimodal. Anyhow, you're making an assumption on Martin's impact on the current team based on - what? His impact with the Sens in a clutch-and grab league? Since your accusation must be based on either 4 games or mere conjecture and theory based on evidence that has several changed factors, it is entirely applicable to counter with an analysis of 4 games.

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Bon jour to all of our Panthers fans in Montreal! Yay!

Also, isn't Stumpel kind of known for being streaky? I know he was really good for us last year but hasn't that always been the rap on him?
my problem with him when i used to see him in l.a. was he played like he was totally disinterested and he played soft. thats one of things that had me so impressed last year, it was like a totally different guy out there.

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TOOOOOOOOZZZ!!!!! So far he has been everything advertized and more. I never knew he was such an adept passer. I just dont want him to become a passive player who looks for the pass.

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10-14-2006, 10:19 AM
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Help Panthers Fans

Hi guys, I'm new, and I want to know more informations on the Panthers and I think you guys can help me !!

Which players you guys want to leave?
Exept Jokinen and Horton, who are the untouchable guys?
What does the Panthers need to get the Stanley Cup?
Does Salei signing helps the team or his contract is too high for the quality?
Is Olesz really a futur great player?


Thanks for answering and sorry for my english, I'm living in Montréal...

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Which players do we want to leave? I think for the most part, we're pretty happy with this squad. Belfour has seen the most criticism though since he wasn't sharp at all in the one appearance he's made.

Untouchables? Jokinen obviously .. Horts, Olesz, Weiss, Allen in the short time he's been here, VanRyn and Salei would be my picks (in no particular order).

Truthfully, this team needs little talent-wise to win the whole thing. They have the offensive and defensive depth in my opinion. If the goaltending gets hot at the right time (same as in '96) and they show the heart and mental toughness they have been lacking for 5 years, they could surprise.

Salei has been absolutely as advertised, in my opinion. He and Allen have been very welcome additions of toughness and assertiveness on the blueline. You can already see it rubbing off on some of the younger guys. Bouw has been playing his absolute best and toughest I've ever seen. VanRyn has picked it up a notch as well.

Still not sure about Rusty. He is far and away one of our better 2-way guys. His hands just haven't quite seem to come around on a consistant basis. It's WAY too early to tell with him, but I really like what I've seen so far from someone with his experience level..

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