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11-23-2003, 04:58 PM
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I have Heard (Ducks)

I have heard Anaheim is a team that has been in heavy talks with the Habs.

They need sa RD like Rivet, and a center like Perreault who wins faceoffs, could use youth like Hossa, are defenitely interested in Hainey. Sundstrom, as they need some defensive help to go along with Pahlsson. Therefore they are interested in most of the assets we have available....Who do you think we could get in return!

I am thinking Vishnevsky, Leclerc would be some of the names, what do you guys think?

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11-23-2003, 05:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plekanec
How about Rivet + Perreault + Sundstrom for Peter Sykora?

Sykora has some difficulty this year...
How about Perezhogin and Rivet for Sykora?

That'd be a little more fair.

Where did you hear this?

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11-23-2003, 05:12 PM
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How about Rivet + Perreault + Sundstrom for Peter Sykora?

Sykora has some difficulty this year...
I'd like that, but they wouldn't cough up the money to do it. We would need to add picks or spects, or give them more talent.

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11-23-2003, 05:15 PM
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How about Perezhogin and Rivet for Sykora?

That'd be a little more fair.
I would do that, we need to get a top 6 up front, with a combo of youngsters and role players on 3rd and 4th lines. Sykora has some speed too! I like speed.

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Where did you hear this?
I have heard it around mostly, no valuable source, or links.

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11-23-2003, 05:18 PM
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Petr Sykora would be nice and I think it's possible to have him. Rivet-Perreault-Sundstrom with a pick for Sykora seem to be fair. Has for Perez-Rivet for Sykora, I wouldn't do it. Perez have to much potential to be trade.

Another player I would like to come in Montreal would be Stanislav Chistov. He would cost us a good prospect in a package but it's possible.

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11-23-2003, 05:25 PM
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http://www.foxsports.com/named/FS/NH...tegoryId=66324

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Stanislav Chistov - #23 - LW - 5'9" - 193 lbs
Nov 20 2003 - Stanislav Chistov was a healthy scratch for last night's game against Dallas. Duck's coach Mike Babcock feels Chistov can play harder than he has as of late. The talented winger has yet to score, in 18 games this season.
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Joffrey Lupul - #15 - RW - 6'1" - 200 lbs
Nov 22 2003 - Joffrey Lupul was a healthy scratch last night. Lupul was the odd man out with Stantislav Chistov drawing back in for the Ducks. As Chistov played well, Lupul may sit again in the Ducks' next contest. We would reserve the youngster until he is back in the Anaheim lineup.

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Petr Sykora would be nice and I think it's possible to have him. Rivet-Perreault-Sundstrom with a pick for Sykora seem to be fair. Has for Perez-Rivet for Sykora, I wouldn't do it. Perez have to much potential to be trade.

Another player I would like to come in Montreal would be Stanislav Chistov. He would cost us a good prospect in a package but it's possible.
Value wise, Sykora should cost us Zednik. Their production tends to be fairly equal, with Sykora probably being a little better overall offensively. Anaheim probably doesn't want to take on a whole lot of salary, but an enticing prospect to add to their core of Smirnov, Chistov, Perry, and Lupol would be fairly interesting to them.

As for Chistov, he was drafted 5th overall AHEAD of Komisarek, so it would take big #8 at least to grab him, possibly more.

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11-23-2003, 05:37 PM
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I don't think Chistov or Lupul are going to be spared. Lupul bought a house in California.

I do like Sundstrom, Rivet and Perreault for Sykora, but I doubt it would happen like that!

I would like to see...
Duncan Milroy
Yannik Perreault
Chad Kilger
Craig Rivet

for

Mike Leclerc
Vitaly Vishnevsky
6th round pick

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I was just pointing out that they weren't pleased with Chistov's work. I don't think we'd need any more underachiever, no matter how skilled he is. That and that he responded well to the scratching so they'll be playing him again.

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I would like to see...
Duncan Milroy
Yannik Perreault
Chad Kilger
Craig Rivet

for

Mike Leclerc
Vitaly Vishnevsky
6th round pick

I like your proposal but if BG want to trade a D-Man, it's to bring Komisarek in Montreal so if we trade a D-man, we cannot receive another D-man...

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11-23-2003, 06:03 PM
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I like your proposal but if BG want to trade a D-Man, it's to bring Komisarek in Montreal so if we trade a D-man, we cannot receive another D-man...
We could keep Vitaly and forward someone else, somewhere else, and get Komi up!

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11-23-2003, 06:22 PM
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Well considering the current situation...

I would try the following:

From Mtl:
Zednik, Rivet, Sundstrum, Hainsey

From Anaheim:
Sykora, Leclerc, Vishnevski

The way I see it:
Zenik, Hainsey > Sykora
Rivet > Vishnevski
Leclerc > Sundstrum

Money wise:
Roughly equivalent

Would stenghten Anaheim's defensive game and stenghten MTL offensive game.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Plekanec
How about Rivet + Perreault + Sundstrom for Peter Sykora?

Sykora has some difficulty this year...


the worst defense player of the team + a player that can't crack the ahl , ( that is what you say all day long ... ) and a noname as sundstrom ...only that for Sycora ! be serious !


by the way , i like this tread and the way it is begining ...
'' i have heard .....''was it in a bar or to the grocery or at the nursery school ?
may be the barbershop ?

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11-23-2003, 06:42 PM
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Sundstrom is far from being a no-namer, and you're all overpaying. Zednik for Sykora? What's the point in that trade, tell me. Zednik can bring more to us since he has chemistry and can get clutch goals. We'd change four quarters for 99 cents.

As for Chistov, we got Plekanec that has his talent or almost, and that works harder, that will be here sooner than later.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Habruti!
I would try the following:

From Mtl:
Zednik, Rivet, Sundstrum, Hainsey

From Anaheim:
Sykora, Leclerc, Vishnevski

The way I see it:
Zenik, Hainsey > Sykora
Rivet > Vishnevski
Leclerc > Sundstrum

Money wise:
Roughly equivalent

Would stenghten Anaheim's defensive game and stenghten MTL offensive game.
Tell me how dropping Hainsey for Vishnevsky improves our offensive game. Vishnevsky is a beast, but he's nothing special on offence. Whereas Hainsey...

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I would'nt trade Komi for Chistov straight up.... Komi is what we need and is IMO a better prospect than Chistov! Pleks looks pretty similar to Chistov anyway...
I never said I would trade for Komisarek for Chistov. But that's what it would cost. No way in hell I would do it.

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11-23-2003, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Habruti!
I would try the following:

From Mtl:
Zednik, Rivet, Sundstrum, Hainsey

From Anaheim:
Sykora, Leclerc, Vishnevski

The way I see it:
Zenik, Hainsey > Sykora
Rivet > Vishnevski
Leclerc > Sundstrum

Money wise:
Roughly equivalent

Would stenghten Anaheim's defensive game and stenghten MTL offensive game.
The whole exercise seems pointless to me. If the idea is to increase offensive ability then why on earth give up zednick for sykora when its already been ascertained that they are equal?? Same goes for the defensemen. Is the point to just make everything equal therefore the same or is it to get better? Zednick is the only offensive threat we have so it does no good to continue to try to throw him in every trade discussed. We're trying to get better!!!

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11-23-2003, 08:31 PM
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Whats about Leclerc and Sykora for Rivet Sundstrom and a prospect?

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11-23-2003, 09:08 PM
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What are you people retarded why in hell would you give up prospects for ANY!! Anaheim players.So what if we don`t make the playoffs who cares, that just means more quality draft picks for us.Don`t give up the future for a Band-Aid solution.

 
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Value wise, Sykora should cost us Zednik. Their production tends to be fairly equal, with Sykora probably being a little better overall offensively. Anaheim probably doesn't want to take on a whole lot of salary, but an enticing prospect to add to their core of Smirnov, Chistov, Perry, and Lupol would be fairly interesting to them.

As for Chistov, he was drafted 5th overall AHEAD of Komisarek, so it would take big #8 at least to grab him, possibly more.
Which spot you are drafted at does not indicate your trade value at all.

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I dont understand all of you.

We're rebuilding and in no shape going to contend anywhere in the near future and yet you wanna trade a prospect+roster player+whatever else for a player in his prime, and for what?? so he can goto waste?

We need to build, we need to be a stronger, tougher, team with grit, and a little more size upfront wouldnt hurt.

Also i can't believe someone wanted to trade Perezhogin at this stage, it made me sick to be quite honest... :mad:

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Could someone explain to me why the Ducks would be interested in Perreault? For faceoffs? They Fedorov and Rucchin up the middle, I don't think they're hurting for faceoff wins.

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Could someone explain to me why the Ducks would be interested in Perreault? For faceoffs? They Fedorov and Rucchin up the middle, I don't think they're hurting for faceoff wins.
Exactly what I tought. I mean, with Fedorov, Rucchin and Niedermayer they seem to have the depth at centre. The ducks might be looking for a winger more than a centre. Anyway, I don't see those teams as great trading partners unless they, somehow, want to part with LeClerc or Sykora and Gainey wants to move Zednik and Young Guns or picks.

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Not saying Sykora is not a good player but I don't think we need another skillful and mid-size forward in the lineup.

A Gratton or Primeau type player is what we need.

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