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liked the song, I can hear alot of Blink 182 influence in it. the way the song was formatted and the way you sang it resembles Blink very strongly.

it is still raw as far as the sound but there is alot to work with, if you worked on it with a good producer the song could sound 10 times better, which is good.

good job! keep at it.

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That is IMO the only big weakness of your song - the structure, which is too conventional for me. The fact that you are aware of it though is a sign you ain't only mimicking (sp?) things but have somewhat of a reflexive approach to your work (and I wouldn't have bothered answering if you didn't). Still, I'd suggest you to go throught avant-garde stuff and other cultures music so you can try to work your stuff on a formal level. For example, I wouldn't mind at all the repetiveness if it echoed content (the simplest example of that would be the "Redundant" segment in My Ass is on Fire by Mr.Bungle).

In fact, since the lyrics are pretty conventional too, just a parodic point of recognition (such as in the title) would make it a very enjoyable "pop-at-second-degree" piece to me. See something like The Lubricated Goats for examples of some efficient genre-diversions (with an obvious lack of subtility) ; The Butthole Surfers also did some interesting stuff in that vein. I'm absolutely not saying : do like them! Only suggesting ways you can explore to give an extra layer to the work. (You understand that I'm not a fan of your influences )

Obviously the quality ain't professional but, knowing other people doing their stuff "at home", I can assure you the sound you got there is quite good. Impressive in fact. And don't worry about your voice and don't go looking for someone else to sing, it seems just fine to me (in fact, in this song, it's what I like best, it has a monotone-feel that's really pleasant and that signs (as in putting a signature to) the song - it's a pretty "ordinary" pop song that feels lot less ordinary because of the voice). Au contraire, try to work it to its limits (of monotony, yes, but also in the lows and highs - screams and murmurs). If you don't know John Frusciante's solo work, take a look (a song like Life's a bath) - again, I'm not saying to take what he's doing, only to check up on possibilities (and don't worry, I'm not implying your voice sounds like his - you actually hit the notes ). Experiment and deconstruct, that would be my advice - thru that, you can come back to simpler things and refine them with some findings that would be truly "yours".

That's all intended to be constructive criticism - all in all, I think it's already pretty good.

I'd be interested in hearing more, for sure. And I saved this one for my gf, who will like it a lot I'm pretty sure.
Thank you so much for everything you've said. I'll take all the constructive citicism I can get. It only helps me "nit pick" so to speak in future material that I record.

It's been a fun experience over the last few years as I've progressed with the quality of every aspect of my music, and I'm sure it will be a lot of fun for years to come.

I'm constantly finding influence in everything that I listen to, even if I hear a catchy tune in something outside of my genre. It's sort of like, hearing all the parts of a good song, breaking them down into pieces inside my head, and once I realize all of those pieces, I can translate that into my own work.

What a lot of people don't realize is, not only am I limited by the equpiment I use, which is obvious, I'm just a hobbyist and I can't afford the REALLY expensive stuff, but I am in fact limited by myself. When I usually mention to people that I do all this myself, they find it hard to believe. Songs are so much easier to write with more than one person, just because you can play along with your fellow musicians.

I treat my music like a game of chess... as in chess, it's not all in the move you make, but in the moves you are going to make, the same with music, it's not all in the note, chord, melody etc etc that you right, it's in the sounds that accompany that note, or chord or melody.

I will admit. Some times it does get VERY frustrating, and originally I feel like I gave up on songs too soon. I think I have a total of over 50 songs written (more than half without lyrics) and it's fun to go back and listen to them and see how everything has progressed. I do hope in time, as with practicing anything, that I will only get better as a musician & a writer, though, it's only the musical part I'm most worried about. With my writing, I just write what I feel. Then again, that's how I play too. lol

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liked the song, I can hear alot of Blink 182 influence in it. the way the song was formatted and the way you sang it resembles Blink very strongly.

it is still raw as far as the sound but there is alot to work with, if you worked on it with a good producer the song could sound 10 times better, which is good.

good job! keep at it.
Thanks a lot. To be honest, I owe a lot to Blink 182. If anything were to ever become of any of the crap I write, I'd feel like they were the ones who really got me motivated to even play music.

Suck or not (whatever anyone's opinion is about them), without me being a fan of them, and enjoying playing my bass along with their songs in my early stages of music, I probably never would have kept it up.

Originally, when I got my first bass, I didn't even want to play music. My brother was in need of money and he was selling one of his two basses. All I wanted to do was help him out, but once I got it, I just started messing around with it. I've never had lessons on any of the instruments I play, i sort of just watched, mimicked & learned. I began to notice how songs were constructed, and once unable to decipher the difference between sounds, I could pick apart music.

After that I just began recording through a computer microphone using Sound Recorder. It was lame, sounded like crap... but it helped me write some of my first songs.

I do agree about the whole producer thing too. Obviously, like I said before, I'm limited by my equpiment. I'm sure there's a ginantic difference between using a DigiTech digital effects processor & a PC compared to expensive pedals and a studio mixer board. For now though, just have to make do with what I gots :-p

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