HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Western Conference > Pacific Division > Los Angeles Kings
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

11/07 - Kings vs Snowballs @ Pepsi Center

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
11-07-2006, 09:20 PM
  #51
Osprey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,027
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by dabeechman View Post
HE WASNT EVEN IN THE GOAL CREASE. lol how do you expect to stop a puck when you over commit on a pass and you slide half way over to the right face off circle
This is complete and utter hogwash. A goalie can't defend against passing like that. Take your Cloutier-hate glasses off and don't be so... dare I say it... ignorant. You're supposed to come out to meet the shooter and it's the players that are expected to prevent the pass, just like a 2-on-1. In fact, the fact that the first Avs player did pass the puck instead of shoot it tells you that Cloutier's positioning was near-perfect. If you want a goat, look to Visnovsky, who got beaten cleanly to start the rush, not Cloutier, who did everything that he could on the play.

Osprey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:23 PM
  #52
Stuff
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 209
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osprey View Post
This is complete and utter hogwash. A goalie can't defend against passing like that. Take your Cloutier-hate glasses off and don't be so... dare I say it... ignorant. You're supposed to come out to meet the shooter and it's the players that are expected to prevent the pass, just like a 2-on-1. Cloutier did everything that he could there.
I was typing something up but Osprey here said it better.

Stuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:23 PM
  #53
riznat
Registered User
 
riznat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Santa Ana, CA
Posts: 1,606
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osprey View Post
This is complete and utter hogwash. A goalie can't defend against passing like that. Take your Cloutier-hate glasses off and don't be so... dare I say it... ignorant. You're supposed to come out to meet the shooter and it's the players that are expected to prevent the pass, just like a 2-on-1. Cloutier did everything that he could there.
Are they supposed to end up backwards?

Goalies should not be expected to make that save, but I would at least expect them to be close. Take your Cloutier defending glasses off and realize any cross ice pass near Cloutier sends him sliding all over the ice. I would say on average he slides 2 feet past the net on a cross ice pass, absolutely terrible positioning.

riznat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:25 PM
  #54
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
My bad so when the goalie comes out far enough to trip on his own guy then thats just proper technique? Sorry.

But to be honest i dont see many goalies that are that far out of the net (completely spoofed out of his crease) on a 3 on 2.

I dont hate cloutier, but i hate losing because of goals getting scored that shouldnt. Honestly, when is the last time we saw a goalie that far out of their net for us to score on?

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:29 PM
  #55
Osprey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,027
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by riznat View Post
Goalies should not be expected to make that save, but I would at least expect them to be close. Take your Cloutier defending glasses off and realize any cross ice pass near Cloutier sends him sliding all over the ice. I would say on average he slides 2 feet past the net on a cross ice pass, absolutely terrible positioning.
As I added above, the fact that the first Avs player passed the puck instead of shooting it is good evidence that Cloutier's positioning was near-perfect. Would you prefer it if he were halfway between each player (i.e. completely out of position for both) and had a small chance to stop shots from both? The Kings skaters did absolutely squat on that play. It may as well have been a 3-on-0 from the Avs, since that's exactly the challenge that Cloutier had to deal with, considering the zero help that he got.

Osprey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:30 PM
  #56
kingsfan25
Registered User
 
kingsfan25's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,835
vCash: 500
Avery takes one penalty and suddenly he's the goat being scaped.

It's even worse on LGK.....honestly, he's been playing pretty damn well, by and large.

kingsfan25 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:30 PM
  #57
riznat
Registered User
 
riznat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Santa Ana, CA
Posts: 1,606
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Osprey View Post
As I added above, the fact that the first Avs player passed the puck instead of shooting it is good evidence that Cloutier's positioning was near-perfect. Would you prefer it if he were halfway between each player (i.e. completely out of position for both) and had a small chance to stop shots from both?
I would prefer that when he slid over to cover for the second players shot that he wouldnt throw his body 150% into a slide 2 feet past the net.

riznat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:32 PM
  #58
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
Let me state that i dont completely blame cloutier for stopping that puck, but his positioning was completely wrong and he over commited. I dont see how anybody can argue that cloutier over bid on that shot when he was 2 feet out of the crease and on his belly. A goalie should never be in that position.

Thats all, i wont argue anymore...lol

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:36 PM
  #59
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
lubo ties it up!

really nice save by cloutier on a partial break away

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:37 PM
  #60
Lundqvist=Vezina
Legendary
 
Lundqvist=Vezina's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: My world
Country: United States
Posts: 5,226
vCash: 529
Send a message via AIM to Lundqvist=Vezina
yeah lubo!

Lundqvist=Vezina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:38 PM
  #61
CowMix
Go Kings Go!
 
CowMix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tustin, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 4,813
vCash: 500
I think its actually better that norstrom got a bs diving call, the Kings are so bad on the powerplay that 4 on 4 is better...

CowMix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:42 PM
  #62
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CowMix View Post
I think its actually better that norstrom got a bs diving call, the Kings are so bad on the powerplay that 4 on 4 is better...


dispite the fact that when nostrom went down the stick was still stuck in his gear he got that dive...but it all worked out in the end

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:47 PM
  #63
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
AVERY with a short hander!

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:47 PM
  #64
Osprey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,027
vCash: 500
Wow, what a pass by Frolov.

Haha... Kopitar is a beast. Nice spin move by Thornton.

Osprey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:48 PM
  #65
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
THORNTON!

kopitar dominated that play

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:49 PM
  #66
Stuff
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 209
vCash: 500
Great passing by the kings!

Stuff is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:49 PM
  #67
Lundqvist=Vezina
Legendary
 
Lundqvist=Vezina's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: My world
Country: United States
Posts: 5,226
vCash: 529
Send a message via AIM to Lundqvist=Vezina
yay avery and thorton!

Lundqvist=Vezina is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:50 PM
  #68
GKJ
Global Moderator
Entertainment
 
GKJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Do not trade plz
Country: United States
Posts: 116,024
vCash: 552
who dey?

__________________
Philadelphia's Real Alternative
(ynotradio.net)

Stop Feeding the Rumor-Monger

"I wonder if Norstrom has Forsberg's spleen mounted on his wall." - KINGS17

My 50 Favorite Albums of 2014 (sorry it's late)
GKJ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:51 PM
  #69
CowMix
Go Kings Go!
 
CowMix's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Tustin, CA
Country: United States
Posts: 4,813
vCash: 500
Did Avery get an assist? Hes working toward the Sean Avery Hat Trick, a goal, an assist, and a dumb penalty.

CowMix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:51 PM
  #70
funky
Registered User
 
funky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saskatoon, Sask
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,208
vCash: 500
what would we do without Anze. I hope we stick with the rebuild, we dont have a Crosby or Ovechkin but Anze, Frolov and Cammo with the help of Brown, O'Sullivan and Johnson should be a great core.

funky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:53 PM
  #71
Osprey
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,027
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CowMix View Post
Did Avery get an assist? Hes working toward the Sean Avery Hat Trick, a goal, and assist, and a dumb penalty.
Avery wasn't on the ice. The assists on Thornton's goal were Cammalleri and Kopitar.

BTW, those three did so well together, especially Cammalleri and Kopitar... so why is Crawford putting Kopitar and Thornton out there with Avery now? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the line that scored at least a few more times?


Last edited by Osprey: 11-07-2006 at 10:00 PM.
Osprey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:54 PM
  #72
Wrigleyville King
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Country: Poland
Posts: 206
vCash: 500
Anybody else watching the Denver broadcast on CI?

Think they could manage to bring up the fact the Avalanche 5 goals in the second period last meeting a few more times? (for those not subjected to their horrid color commentator, he has brought it up at least 5 or 6 times already)

Wrigleyville King is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:59 PM
  #73
dabeechman
Registered User
 
dabeechman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 4,749
vCash: 500
when you are down by 2 goals by arguably one of the worst performing teams thus far you'd focus on all the positives too.

dabeechman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 09:59 PM
  #74
funky
Registered User
 
funky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Saskatoon, Sask
Country: Canada
Posts: 3,208
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrigleyville King View Post
Anybody else watching the Denver broadcast on CI?

Think they could manage to bring up the fact the Avalanche 5 goals in the second period last meeting a few more times? (for those not subjected to their horrid color commentator, he has brought it up at least 5 or 6 times already)
you have to forgive them, the air is thin out there

funky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
11-07-2006, 10:00 PM
  #75
vcx*
 
vcx*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Penguins Fan
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,783
vCash: 500
Why isn't Sopel playing? i thought he was day to day with his foot from oct 26th, he'd be fine after 2 weeks no?

vcx* is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:14 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2015 All Rights Reserved.