Not I, I'd like to see Murray and Downey in for tonight, I'm sure that they're more responsible in the NHL level than Laps or Kosti are.....at this point.
Not I, I'd like to see Murray and Downey in for tonight, I'm sure that they're more responsible in the NHL level than Laps or Kosti are.....at this point.
I understand the concern, but I truly believe both are overrated. Murray hasn't been playing great by any stretch of the imagination. He fulfilled a need last year, but I'm almost 100% convinced that Lapierre is better in every aspect. You're talking about Murray as if he's established...how much NHL experience did Garth have prior to him stepping in last year? Why wouldn't Lapierre, with a much greater skill set, be able to do a better job than him?
I understand the concern, but I truly believe both are overrated. Murray hasn't been playing great by any stretch of the imagination. He fulfilled a need last year, but I'm almost 100% convinced that Lapierre is better in every aspect. You're talking about Murray as if he's established...how much NHL experience did Garth have prior to him stepping in last year? Why wouldn't Lapierre, with a much greater skill set, be able to do a better job than him?
Who says Lapierre has a much greater skill set? I'm not convinced that's the case, and no I don't care how many points he has a month into the AHL season.
Who says Lapierre has a much greater skill set? I'm not convinced that's the case, and no I don't care how many points he has a month into the AHL season.
Ok, let's assume he doesn't have a higher skill set.
Can we agree that Lappy appears to play the game with consistently high energy, as evidenced by his 7 or 8 "hardest working bulldog" wins?
Can we agree that Lappy has proven himself to be an effective "pest"?
Can we agree that Murray hasn't been wowing anybody so far this season?
I reiterate: Murray, contrary to popular belief, isn't a proven commodity just yet. And he certainly wasn't a proven commodity when he was given a job last season.
Lappy is doing well getting big minutes in hamilton the habs 4th line does not play 15+ minutes per game.
I really would expect Kosty to get recalled if Gui struggles to produce.
I think you'll need to think again on this one; pretty far fetched if you ask me.
I'm sorry, you're right...I am way off-base for thinking that Murray and his 43 NHL games don't make him an established entity in the NHL just yet. Thanks for helping me see the light.
Not I, I'd like to see Murray and Downey in for tonight, I'm sure that they're more responsible in the NHL level than Laps or Kosti are.....at this point.
Sure, at this rate, no rookie will ever ever make it into the NHL. What is so magic about the "proven players" myth? Id like to be enlighted.
Murray isnt playing well, thats it. Sending him down is a good idea, I believe hes still on a 2-way. As for Downey, when we dont need an enforcer(I.E against most teams from the west) he is NOT needed.
About Kost, we need offense, to play on the first line, responsability shouldnt be the prime focus, even if Kost have shown he can be responsible when given those directives. Much more than Jesus Latendresse.
I would at least call Lapierre back and give him a chance to proove himself.
IMO, Kost should be in the lineup. The guy is loosing a precious year with the Bulldogs 'cause he has no motivation to play there. He feels his place is with the habs and I agree. At least, we should let him play some games and see what happens.
Totally agree we should recall probably both of them. Kostitsyn for sure at least. The guy needs a real chance. If we gave Marcel Hossa a real chance, no reason to keep Andrei in Hamilton with an offensive player injured.
Kostitsyn would have been in the line-up if Latendresse didn't play like a man possesed in September. No he didn't try his best in Hamilton, but after being the last cut in Montreal, this is not unheard of. When Perezhogin got sent down last year, he got 2 points in 12 games. Bad numbers. Now when Perezhogin got recalled did he look like a bad AHLer at the end of the year and in the playoffs? No, he did not.
I'm sorry, you're right...I am way off-base for thinking that Murray and his 43 NHL games don't make him an established entity in the NHL just yet. Thanks for helping me see the light.
The problem is that you don't apply the same logic to Lapierre by saying that he is a proven player.
In 2005-2006, Lappy had nearly 0.5 PPG and 2.93 PIM/game with Hamilton, while Garth had 0.077 PPG and 1.77 PIM/game with Hamilton. Lapierre was significantly better offensively, and apparently more involved in the "pest" department. Moreover, consider that was Lapierre's first year as a pro, and Garth's 4th year as a pro.
In 2006-2007, Lappy, still in Hamilton, is now a 1 PPG player, and apparently still working his behind off. Murray, now in the NHL, hasn't really played up to par so far this season.
I'm going to ask Murray defenders to answer this question: please explain how Murray and his 43 NHL games make him a better option than Lapierre today.
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This is what I'd like to see:
In 2005-2006, Lappy had nearly 0.5 PPG and 2.93 PIM/game with Hamilton, while Garth had 0.077 PPG and 1.77 PIM/game with Hamilton. Lapierre was significantly better offensively, and apparently more involved in the "pest" department. Moreover, consider that was Lapierre's first year as a pro, and Garth's 4th year as a pro.
In 2006-2007, Lappy, still in Hamilton, is now a 1 PPG player, and apparently still working his behind off. Murray, now in the NHL, hasn't really played up to par so far this season.
I'm going to ask Murray defenders to answer this question: please explain how Murray and his 43 NHL games make him a better option than Lapierre today.
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This is what I'd like to see:
