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11-08-2006, 10:13 PM
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Avalanche Team Stats

I remember we had a similar thread last year that we would update regularly. I thought it'd be a good idea to bring back that type of thread, but go into more detail, so we can see what our strengths and weaknesses are stat wise, and how they improve or decline over the season. Feel free to add your own stats if you find them interesting and helpful.

Through 15 games the Avs are currently


Standings

15GP - 7 Wins 6 Losses 2 OTL - 8th West

Division

Minnesota - 14 GP - 20pts
Vancouver - 16 GP - 17pts
Colorado - 15 GP - 16pts
Edmonton - 15 GP - 15pts
Calgary - 15 GP - 12pts


Team Stats

Goals - 51 - Tied for 4th Overall - Tied for 2nd West

Goals For Average - 3.40 - Tied for 6th Overall - Tied for 2nd West

Goals Against - 49 - 24th Overall - 13th West

Goals Against Average - 3.27 - 23rd overall - 12th West

Shots On Goal Average - 34.0 - 2nd Overall - 1st West

Shots Allowed Average - 30.8 - 18th Overall - 12th West

Pelalty Minutes - 162 - 30th - Fewest in NHL

Penalty Minutes Against - 192 - 27th Overall - 15th West

Faceoff Percentage - .469% - 28th Overall - 15th West



Special Teams

PP - 18.2% - 12th overall - 4th West

PK - 80.8% - 22nd overall - 10th West -

Times Shorthanded - 73 - Tied for 7th overall - 3rd West

Power Play Opportunities - 88 - Tied 9th overall - 6th West

Shorthanded Goals For - 2 - Tied 5th (9 teams) overall

Shorthanded Goals Against - 1 - Tied for 2nd (12 teams) overall. 6 teams have 0.



Win/Loss Stats

One Goal Wins - 3 - Tied for 2nd Most Overall (4 teams)

One Goal Losses - 2 - Tied for 3rd Most Overall (9 teams)

When Leading After the 1st Period - 2 Wins 2 Losses 1 OTL- .400% - 29th Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Leading After the 2nd Period - 5 Wins 1 Loss 1 OTL - .714% - 24th Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Trailing After 1st Period - 1 Win 2 Losses 1 OTL - .250% - 12th Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Trailing After 2nd Period - 0 Wins 4 Losses 1 OTL - .000% - 21st ( Doesn't factor in tied teams)

Win When Score First - 3 Wins 2 Losses 1 OTL - .500% - Tied for 25th (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

Win When Giving Up the First Goal - 4 Wins 4 Losses 1 OTL - .444% - 8th Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Outshooting Other Team - 4 Wins - 5 Losses - 1 OTL - .400% - 23rd Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Outshot By Opponent - 3 Wins 1 Loss 1 OTL - .600% - 8th Overall (Doesn't factor in tied teams)


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11-08-2006, 10:33 PM
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I think this clearly shows what our weaknesses are right now. Faceoffs are a huge problem, because we spend most of the time chasing the puck, which means we don't have it, and that's not how you succeed in the new NHL.

Goals against and the pk are also a huge problem, and that's a combination of the defense and the goalies.

The PP is mediocre right now, but that should finish the year in the top 8 or so.

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Tanguay and Blake effect. Powerplay and Penalty kill goes down quite a bit.

PK will be better when Leopold comes and maybe even powerplay. We'll see
I don't think our powerplay is mediocret they just play very inconsistent.

And could you please save those stats? I wanna see how Leopold is going to effect PK and PP when he comes back.


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Tanguay and Blake effect. Powerplay and Penalty kill goes down quite a bit.

PK will be better when Leopold comes and maybe even powerplay. We'll see
I don't think our powerplay is mediocret they just play very inconsistent.

And could you please save those stats? I wanna see how Leopold is going to effect PK and PP when he comes back.
I won't update the first post like I do in the cap numbers thread. I was planning on making new posts with our stats after 10 games or so throughout the season, and compare them to stats from earlier in the year to see how we improve or decline in certain areas as we go through the season, and so others can post stats of their own.

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Loss of Blake, Leopold and Kono is only one part of the problem with our PK. Look at ice time for our forwards in PK : 1st - Richardson, 2nd - Stastny. They are just rookies. Wel, it's not the worst scenario: they will develop this part of their game, but they need some time, when they'll get some experience they will be among the best, Imo.

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Looks like we're due for a 3rd period comeback or two...

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Still mystified that Lappy isn't on the PK.

Also - if the PK is this bad, couldn't hurt to try Vaananen out there.

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I won't update the first post like I do in the cap numbers thread. I was planning on making new posts with our stats after 10 games or so throughout the season, and compare them to stats from earlier in the year to see how we improve or decline in certain areas as we go through the season, and so others can post stats of their own.
Every 10 games or so would be great but as ColoradoAvalanche said, it would be nice if you could have these stats up to and including the last game before Leo comes back. Although it will take a few games for him to get back to his level, it would be nice to compare the stats with him in the lineup.
Thanks, great work!

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Looks like we're due for a 3rd period comeback or two...
Well they've mastered the comeback tease, so it's a start.

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Still mystified that Lappy isn't on the PK.
Has anyone every asked Q about this during his radio show? Or at a press conference? Paging Nairda...

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Standings (10 games later)

25 GP - 12 Wins - 11 Losses - 2 OTL - 9th West

Edmonton - 24 GP - 28 pts
Minnesota - 25 GP - 27 pts
Calgary - 24 GP - 26 pts
Colorado - 25 GP - 26 pts
Vancouver - 26 GP - 25 pts

Team Stats

Goals - 78 - Tied for 10th Overall - 4th West

Goals For Average - 3.12 - Tied for 9th Overall - 4th West

Goals Against - 73 - 18th Overall - 12th West

Goals Against Average - 2.92 - 16th Overall - 10th West

Shots On Goal Average - 33.9 - 2nd Overall - 1st West

Shots Allowed Average - 30.3 - 17th Overall - 11th West

Pelalty Minutes - 284 - 28th Most Overall - 15th West

Penalty Minutes Against - 322 - 27th Most Overall - 14th West

Faceoff Percentage - .477% - 29th Overall - 15 West


Special Teams

PP - 16.9% - 13th Overall - 6th West

Home PP - 21.0% - 10th Overall - 5th West (13GP)

Road PP - 11.7% - 23rd Overall - 10th West (7GP)

PK - 80.0% - 25th Overall - 12th West

Home PK - 78.7% - 30th Overall - 15th West

Road PK - 81.1% - 18th Overall - 7th West

Times Shorthanded - 115 - 7th Fewest Overall - 5th West

Power Play Opportunities - 136 - 14th Most Overall - 6th West

Shorthanded Goals For - 2 - Tied for 15th (9 other teams) - Tied for 6th West (6 other teams)

Shorthanded Goals Against - 3 - Tied for 18th Fewest Overall - Tied for 10th West (4 other teams)


Win/Loss Stats

One Goal Wins - 5 - 17th Overall (Tied with 5 teams)(Rank doesn't factor in tied teams)

One Goal Losses - 6 - 4th Most Overall (Tied with 3 teams)(Does not include OT losses)(Rank doesn't factor in tied teams)

When Leading After the 1st Period - 7 Wins - 4 Losses - 1 OTL - .583% - 27th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a couple)

When Leading After the 2nd Period - 9 Wins - 1 Loss - 1 OTL - .818% - 18th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a couple)

When Trailing After 1st Period - 1 Win - 4 Losses - 1 OTL - .167% - 19th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

When Trailing After 2nd Period - 0 Wins - 7 Losses - 1 OTL - .000% - 24th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

Win When Score First - 7 wins- 21st Overall - .538% - 28th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

Win When Giving Up the First Goal - 5 wins- .417 - 8th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

When Outshooting Other Team - 9 Wins - 8 Losses - 1 OTL - .500 Win % - 19th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

When Outshot By Opponent - 3 Wins, 3 Losses, 1 OTL - .429 Win % - 14th Overall % (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)

Shootout - 2 Wins - 0 Losses

Shootout Shooting Percentage - 50.0% - 7th Overall (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)(Only played 2 games)

Shootout Save Percentage - .833% - 5th Overall (Rank doesn't factor in tied teams, but there are only a few)(Only Played 2 games)

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Well, here are the main differences I noticed from 10 games ago in the post above.

We haven't really improved in our division standings, as we're pretty much in the same position. Same goes for our conference standings.

We've slipped in the goals for average stats, but this is probably attributable to focusing more on defense lately. We went from 3.40 to 3.12.

Conversely we've improved our goals against average from 3.27 to 2.92.

Shots on goal average, and shots allowed average are very similar, so not much change there, which is interesting given how our GAA went down. Must be due to cutting down on the dangerous scoring chances rather than shots, or perhaps better goaltending.

We managed to improve in the faceoff circle ever so slightly, but unfortunately we slipped in the rankings. Only Pittsburgh is worse than us in that category with a .466%.

The PP has gotten worse from 18.2% ten games ago, to 16.9% now. The PK has slipped slightly from 80.8% to 80.0%. I've also added stats for the home and road PP and PK so we can track those too. There seems to be quite a difference between them in both the PP and PK stats.

Most of the other stats are harder to compare over the short term. Things can happen from game to game and the level of opponents can affect them more drastically than the other stats, so comparing them to the previous stats 10 games ago may or may not show a trend. It's probably better to look at them over a longer period of time.

One stat though seemed to stand out to me. In comparison with the rest of the league, our record when leading after the first period is very unimpressive. As it looks, leading after the 1st period is a huge stat. Only one team has a sub .500 record when leading after the 1st and that's St. Louis. If you score first in a game, you're chances of winning are looking pretty good, and we're ranked 27th in win percentage for that category. Same goes for our record when we score first. We're 28th in our win percentage there. We score first a good portion of the time, and score a lot of first period goals, but we can't hold leads. This is what seperates good teams from bad teams IMO, and needs to be corrected if we are going to do anything this year.


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Ken Klee - "+12" (best on team)
P. Brisebois - "-6" (worst on team)

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Colorado is 0-6-1 when Laperriere fights.
Colorado is 0-6 when they allow more than 1 PP goal
Colorado is 5-7-2 in one-goal games (they started 3-0-2)

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can I do individual stats?
GAA while Colorado is shorthanded:
Budaj - 4.75 (63 minutes)
Theodore - 9.37 (128 minutes)
(Budaj has yet to allow more than 1 PP goal in a game)

Goal Support
Budaj - 3.60
Theodore - 2.82

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Average Total Ice Time (Top 10):
Clark 24:08
Skrastins 20:41
Klee 20:13
Liles 19:44
Sakic 19:29
Brisebois 19:18
Leopold 18:56
Stastny 16:58
Hejduk 16:46
Brunette 16:31

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Colorado is 0-6-1 when Laperriere fights.
Colorado is 0-6 when they allow more than 1 PP goal
Colorado is 5-7-2 in one-goal games (they started 3-0-2)
0-6-1 when Lappy fights? Interesting. Either that means they're usually out of the games by then, his teammates aren't motivated by him usually taking on bigger guys and holding his own, or Lappy is very important defensively 5 on 5. Or it's just a fluke, lol.

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0-6-1 when Lappy fights? Interesting. Either that means they're usually out of the games by then, his teammates aren't motivated by him usually taking on bigger guys and holding his own, or Lappy is very important defensively 5 on 5. Or it's just a fluke, lol.
more the former, I think. Generally, they're already losing or playing poorly when he drops the gloves, with the Vancouver game being the one exception that comes to mind. He's also the only Av with a fight (McCormick did have a roughing penalty on like his 2nd shift of the year).

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It's not about Team Stats but I didn't know where to post. We all know Paul Stastny is 3rd in rookie scoring and is our best PKer. Other stats:

- leads all rookies with 23 blocked shots (80th among all players) - Kopitar is 2nd with 21.
- leads all rookis with 36 takeaways (16th among all players) - Zajac is 2nd with 27.
- is 2nd among rookies with 599 faceoffs taken (37th among all players).
- is 2nd among rookies with %24.3 of team faceoffs taken (47th among all players).

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Average Total Ice Time (Top 10):
Clark 24:08
Skrastins 20:41
Klee 20:13
Liles 19:44
Sakic 19:29
Brisebois 19:18
Leopold 18:56
Stastny 16:58
Hejduk 16:46
Brunette 16:31
I'm really hoping Vaananen gets more ice time from this point out, we could really use him in terms of eating up minutes, especially if he is able to bring a solid defensive presence as well as physicality to his game.

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Standings (39 Games Later)

64 GP - 30 W - 29 L - 5 OTL 65 PTS - 10th West

Vancouver - 63 GP - 77 PTS
Calgary - 64 GP - 77 PTS
Minnesota - 64 GP - 76 PTS
Edmonton - 64 GP - 66 PTS
Colorado - 64 GP - 65 PTS

Team Stats

Goals - 204 - 6th Overall - 3rd West

Goals For Average - 3.19 - 6th Overall - 3rd West

Goals Against - 204 - 24th Overall - 13th West

Goals Against Average - 3.19 - 24th Overall - 13th West

Shots On Goal Average - 31.9 - 7th Overall - 4th West

Shots Allowed Average - 30.1 - 18th Overall - 12th West

Pelalty Minutes - 734 - 27th Overall - 14th West

Penalty Minutes Against - 761 - 28th Overall - 14th West

Faceoff Percentage - 48.4% - 24th Overall - 12th West

Special Teams

PP - 21.5% - 3rd Overall - 2nd West

Home PP - 24.1% - 3rd Overall - 2nd West

Road PP - 18.3% - 10th Overall - 5th West

PK - 79.8% - 25th Overall - 13th West

Home PK - 80.8% - 21st Overall - 12th West

Road PK - 78.7% - 23rd Overall - 12th West

Times Shorthanded - 297 - 5th Overall - 3rd West

Power Play Opportunities - 297 - 26th Overall - 14th West

Shorthanded Goals For - 6 - Tied for 17th Overall (4 teams)

Shorthanded Goals Against - 7 - Tied for 15th (2 teams)

Win/Loss Stats

One Goal Losses - 13 - Most in the NHL

When Leading After the 1st Period - 14 W - 6 L - 1 OTL - 66.7% - 23rd Overall - 12th West

When Leading After the 2nd Period - 21 W - 3 L - 2 OTL - 80.8% - 20th Overall - 11th West

When Trailing After 1st Period - 6 W - 12 L - 2 OTL - 30.0% - 13th Overall - 7th West

When Trailing After 2nd Period - 1 W - 19 L - 1 OTL - 4.8% - 28th Overall - 15th West

Win When Score First - 19 W - 9 L - 2 OTL - 63.3% - 23rd Overall - 1th West

Win When Giving Up the First Goal - 11 W - 20 L - 3 OTL - 32.4% - 15th Overall - 8th West

When Outshooting Other Team - 18 W - 20 L - 1 OTL - 46.2% - 18th Overall - 10th West

When Outshot By Opponent - 11 W - 9 L - 4 OTL - 45.8% - 21st Overall - 10th West

Shootout - 4 W -3 L

Shootout Shooting Percentage - 42.3% - 7th Overall - 6th West

Shootout Save Percentage - 60.0% - 19th Overall - 8th West


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The stats in red are obviously killers and big reasons for where we're at in the standings. I think they boil down to leadership issues and not being able to score the clutch goals. These are some of the main stats I took out of there.

Most one goal game losses in NHL.

Tied with three other teams for the least amount of wins in the NHL, when trailing after two periods they only have one win. Only one damn comeback win all year.

Scored same amount of goals (204) as has been scored against us. That's not a recipe for success, and negates any good that comes out of having a high scoring team.

We've been shorthanded the same amount of times (297) as we've had PP opportunities.

Our faceoff % increased slightly but only by 0.7%.

6 losses when leading after the first period, is tied for the 2nd most overall with one other team. Again, I think this boils down to leadership issues, and having a young team.

Our PP got significantly better going from 13th overall to 3rd, but our PK almost didn't change at all going from 80% to 79.8% and staying at 25th overall.

Our goals per game average stayed pretty much the same but our goals against dropped going from 2.92 and 16th overall, to 3.19 and 24th overall.

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The stats in red are obviously killers and big reasons for where we're at in the standings. I think they boil down to leadership issues and not being able to score the clutch goals. These are some of the main stats I took out of there.

Most one goal game losses in NHL.
i tend to agree with you for the most part. i do however disagree that the number of one goal losses is due to a lack of clutch goals. it seems to me(without looking at any numbers)that a good number of those 1 goal losses were in fact comebacks in the making that fell short or blown leads in the final few minutes of a game.

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Tied with three other teams for the least amount of wins in the NHL, when trailing after two periods they only have one win. Only one damn comeback win all year.
again, the team has mounted many good comeback attempts and fallen just short. they've pretty consistantly gone down 2 or 3 to 0 to come back and lose a 1 goal game. i don't think it's too far fetched to think that it simply is a bit much to ask for coming back from being down 2 or 3 more than a few times.

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Scored same amount of goals (204) as has been scored against us. That's not a recipe for success, and negates any good that comes out of having a high scoring team.
can't disagree here. pretty hard to win when you're basically giving up the same number of goals you score.

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6 losses when leading after the first period, is tied for the 2nd most overall with one other team. Again, I think this boils down to leadership issues, and having a young team.
i don't know what the teams issue with this is. i don't really think it's a leadership issue though. i personally think it's due to their crappy defense. they seem to score early a decent amount and then just fall apart when the defense just can't keep it up.

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Our PP got significantly better going from 13th overall to 3rd, but our PK almost didn't change at all going from 80% to 79.8% and staying at 25th overall.
this is really the stat that stands out to me. if they had SIGNIFICANTLY improved their PK, and thats all, they would have won 6 or 7 more games than they have so far. i'd love to see a stat for their record when allowing 2+ PP goals as well as 1 and 0. i have a feeling their record when they give up 2+ is going to include more games than the other 2 categories.

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Our goals per game average stayed pretty much the same but our goals against dropped going from 2.92 and 16th overall, to 3.19 and 24th overall.
i think the increase in GAA is partially due to the inability to keep fewer than 5 pucks out of their own net lately. i think they had only 2 or 3 games in the month that they gave up fewer than 5 goals.

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The stats in red are obviously killers and big reasons for where we're at in the standings. I think they boil down to leadership issues and not being able to score the clutch goals. These are some of the main stats I took out of there.

Most one goal game losses in NHL.

Tied with three other teams for the least amount of wins in the NHL, when trailing after two periods they only have one win. Only one damn comeback win all year.

Scored same amount of goals (204) as has been scored against us. That's not a recipe for success, and negates any good that comes out of having a high scoring team.

We've been shorthanded the same amount of times (297) as we've had PP opportunities.

Our faceoff % increased slightly but only by 0.7%.

6 losses when leading after the first period, is tied for the 2nd most overall with one other team. Again, I think this boils down to leadership issues, and having a young team.

Our PP got significantly better going from 13th overall to 3rd, but our PK almost didn't change at all going from 80% to 79.8% and staying at 25th overall.

Our goals per game average stayed pretty much the same but our goals against dropped going from 2.92 and 16th overall, to 3.19 and 24th overall.

We seem to be the definition of a team at .500! Lots of goals for and against. Good PP, Bad PK. Half the games decided by one goal. Almost the same amount of wins as losses by one goal (i had the feeling we had a lot of those one-goal games).


Also, do the stats say we take lots of penalties and get lots against, or the other way around?




One point though. People have been saying that we can't keep a lead. These stats prove otherwise. While 20th overall when leading after 2 periods isn't that good, it's not horrible at all.

Is there a tied after the 2nd period stat?

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Ok, i just went game by game and here are our PP goals for and PP goals against stats:

For:
2+: 8-8-2
1: 11-9-1
0: 11-12-2

This seems to be rather random. There isn't much of a pattern concerning our own PP. no matter how many PP goals they score, they're right around .500. To me, it's disturbing to see that they can score 2 or more PP goals and still manage to lose games.

Against:
2+: 2-12-2
1: 8-12-1
0: 22-5-1

This stat, however, there's a huge pattern that sticks out. When the team gives up 2 or more PP goals, they simply can not win games. However, when they give up 0, they win most of their games. When being scored on only once on the PP, they're right around .500. Once again, this tells me an improved PK GREATLY improves this teams overall record. Also, it's rather disturbing to me that they've given up 2 or more PP goals in 16 games.

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03-02-2007, 05:57 PM
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i tend to agree with you for the most part. i do however disagree that the number of one goal losses is due to a lack of clutch goals. it seems to me(without looking at any numbers)that a good number of those 1 goal losses were in fact comebacks in the making that fell short or blown leads in the final few minutes of a game.

again, the team has mounted many good comeback attempts and fallen just short. they've pretty consistantly gone down 2 or 3 to 0 to come back and lose a 1 goal game. i don't think it's too far fetched to think that it simply is a bit much to ask for coming back from being down 2 or 3 more than a few times.

i don't know what the teams issue with this is. i don't really think it's a leadership issue though. i personally think it's due to their crappy defense. they seem to score early a decent amount and then just fall apart when the defense just can't keep it up.
I think part of it is the D not being very good in their own end, but the ability to hold a lead, and even moreso the ability to come from behind have a lot to do with veteran leadership IMO. They help give the team the focus they need in the 3rd period to hold a lead, and the motivation and belief that they can come back in one goal games because they've done it before, so they don't panic.

I don't think that our amount of comeback's that we've started would be that many more than any other teams. I think the fact that we've seen a fair share is a product of the new NHL as every team experiences them at some point. The difference is we can't seem to overcome the hump of that last goal, where other teams can on occasion. I think that's a matter of clutch goals missing from this team, and I had noticed all season long, and the numbers have just confirmed it for me. Svatos and Hejduk not being able to score the big third period goals has really hurt us IMO.

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