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12-10-2006, 07:12 PM
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anyone know what GSP's tattoo on his chest means?
I have read that it means "Jujitsu". its Japanese, meaning 'gentle art'.

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I have read that it means "Jujitsu". its Japanese, meaning 'gentle art'.
I was under the impression that it was something to do with his original TMA of kyokushin karate.

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The IFL seems like a very solid organization so far. I've caught a few of their shows on TV (Lindland vs. Horn, Militech vs. Gracie) and was very impressed. They're definitley on the rise.
I'm a pretty big IFL fan. I love the team concept and I prefer MMA in a ring as opposed to a cage.

And if the IFL is worth 150 million.. can't imagine waht the UFC is worth at this point.

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UFC bought out the contracts of the WFA today... Lindland, Ramapge, Faber, Herring, etc.. wow.

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UFC bought out the contracts of the WFA today... Lindland, Ramapge, Faber, Herring, etc.. wow.
Select assets from the WFA. There is nothing to confirm that any of those fighters have had their contracts purchased at this point. From what I understand, Lindland doesn't have a deal with WFA at this point.

They also purchased WEC.

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Select assets from the WFA. There is nothing to confirm that any of those fighters have had their contracts purchased at this point. From what I understand, Lindland doesn't have a deal with WFA at this point.
Well, there is something to suggest it, but you're right, the names are speculation on my part.

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From what I understand, Lindland doesn't have a deal with WFA at this point.
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UFC bought out the contracts of the WFA today... Lindland, Ramapge, Faber, Herring, etc.. wow.
Which means after Ortiz/Liddell we'll most likely be seeing a Liddell/Rampage rematch. I knew it would only be a matter of time before Rampage was in the UFC.

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Well, there is something to suggest it, but you're right, the names are speculation on my part.
per http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=3084&zoneid=2

"Sources close to the situation told MMAWeekly.com that Quinton Jackson and Heath Herring are two of the fighters that are part of the deal and will soon be fighting in the UFC."

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12-12-2006, 01:17 AM
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Which means after Ortiz/Liddell we'll most likely be seeing a Liddell/Rampage rematch. I knew it would only be a matter of time before Rampage was in the UFC.
You already know this, since I seen your post on sherdog lol, but the Fight Network has confirmed via Dana White that Rampage Jackson is now a UFC fighter.

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The mixed martial arts world continues to grow yet streamline at the same time.
According to a press release circulated today by Zuffa LLC, owners of the UFC, the thriving Las Vegas-based promotion has absorbed all of the assets still connected with the failing World Fighting Alliance organization.

"WFA Enterprises, LLC, a subsidiary of Zuffa, purchased select fighter contracts and the trademarks and other intellectual property of World Fighting Alliance, Inc., a corporation owned by Las Vegas attorneys, Ross Goodman and Louis Palazzo," read the release.

Following a three year hiatus, the WFA had returned to Los Angeles in July with its "King of the Streets" event, but had since postponed a follow-up date scheduled for the Aladdin Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas.

As announced by sherdog.com last week, former WFA CEO Jeremy Lappen had entered into legal proceedings against the WFA organization, citing a breach of contract for non-payment of services.

UFC president Dana White confirmed to The Fight Network this evening that light heavyweight standout Quinton "Rampage" Jackson (22-6) is among the talents this acquisition has facilitated. Jackson remains one of UFC Light Heavyweight Chuck Liddell's few and most high profile losses, dating back to the semi-final round of PRIDE's Final Conflict 2003 tournament, where Jackson eliminated Liddell (19-3) via a TKO referee stoppage from strikes.

White did not reveal when fans can expect Rampage to make his Octagon debut.

Fighters Matt Lindland, Heath Herring, Ivan Salaverry, Jason "Mayhem" Miller, and Urijah Faber have all been established in the past as under either exclusive or non-exclusive WFA contracts. Confirmation on their new status is yet to come.



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Dana White made a brilliant move buying the WFA like that. Its about time Zuffa opened up their wallets to some of the great talent out there. 2007 is going to be a very good year for the UFC I think.

I'm pumped to see Rampage vs. Liddell. Their 1st fight was great and Rampage is always entertaining. Hopefully he'll return to his old form and make this match a classic but I think Liddell will take the rematch.

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I wonder if Ryoto Machida was another guy that UFC buys up. I'd like to see if he's for real at light heavyweight. Plus if he could cut some weight....he could fight Franklin again (I don't think he'll be facing BJ anytime soon).

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To those who've seen Jeff Joslin fight: what're your thoughts on the guy? I'm kicking around the idea of putting some cash down on he (and Menne) tomorrow, and would like to gauge how good of a shot I have to win.

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To those who've seen Jeff Joslin fight: what're your thoughts on the guy? I'm kicking around the idea of putting some cash down on he (and Menne) tomorrow, and would like to gauge how good of a shot I have to win.
Very good, probably Canada's next hope. His loss to fitch doesn't count. Probably the best the ww in Canada no named GSP (though I have a couple ahead of him). You know how I feel about Koscheck; overrated fighter though good athlete. Joslin's the real deal, what are the odds at pinnacle? Only bet if it's over 150.

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To those who've seen Jeff Joslin fight: what're your thoughts on the guy? I'm kicking around the idea of putting some cash down on he (and Menne) tomorrow, and would like to gauge how good of a shot I have to win.
To be honest, I think Koscheck is the underdog.

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12-12-2006, 07:49 PM
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Very good, probably Canada's next hope. His loss to fitch doesn't count. Probably the best the ww in Canada no named GSP (though I have a couple ahead of him). You know how I feel about Koscheck; overrated fighter though good athlete. Joslin's the real deal, what are the odds at pinnacle? Only bet if it's over 150.
+260 at sportsbook and +270 at pinnacle.

Can you elaborate on why you think so highly of Joslin. Lots have hyped him, but I haven't heard much substance on why he's so highly regarded. Particularly, how is he going to deal with Koscheck's wrestling game?

Thanks

I'll be honest also...not really sure how Fitch got rated so highly as well. Keita Nakamura at +275 is also intriguing, especially once one looks at Brock Larson's quality of past opponents.

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Can you elaborate on why you think so highly of Joslin. Lots have hyped him, but I haven't heard much substance on why he's so highly regarded. Particularly, how is he going to deal with Koscheck's wrestling game?
His striking is quick, crisp and accurate, and on the ground he's a BJJ Blackbelt. Koscheck might have the better wrestling, obviously, but Joslin can submit him, and outstrike him at will.

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Every fighter he faces just seem incapable of stopping Koscheks takedowns. Even if Joslin has the edge in striking could he stop his takedowns? And if the fight stayed standing Koscheck has vastly improved his striking the past few months. He's got excellent cardio and has beaten more quality opponents than Joslin has.

Koscheck via decision.

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12-12-2006, 09:18 PM
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K-1 has released information on their upcoming Dynamite NYE card. It's their biggest PPV of the year and regularily beats PRIDE in terms of attendance in Japan. It is a mix of K-1 (kickboxing) and MMA matches.

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K-1 announced that former sumo wrestler Akebono will fight the 7-foot-7 tall Giant Silva at the Kyocera Dome in Osaka, Japan on December 31st.

Hideo Tokoro, who battled Royce Gracie to a draw at last year's Dynamite!! event, will face Royler Gracie this year with no special rules.

2000 Greco-Roman Silver medalist Katsuhiko Nagata will face Shooto and ZST veteran Shuichiro Katsumura.

In a 3-round bout contested under K-1 rules, 2003 K-1 World Max Champion Masato will face former WBA Super Featherweight champion Choi Yong-Soon.

Kazushi Sakuraba will try to stop Yoshihiro Akiyama's eight-fight winning streak.

Norifumi "KID" Yamamoto, Genki Sudo, Caol Uno, Ken Kaneko and Musashi are possible participants.

Current K-1 Dynamite!! 2006 Fight Card:

- Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Kazushi Sakuraba
- Masato vs. Choi Yong-Soon
- Katsuhiko Nagata vs. Shuichiro Katsumura
- Hideo Tokoro vs. Royler Gracie
- Akebono vs. Giant Silva
LMAO!! Akebono vs. Giant Silva is hilarious. Can't say its my cup of tea but the Japanese fans will eat that up. Now one of these guys will finally have an opportunity to win a match.

Its always great to see Sakuraba back. But i'm worried about his health. He is suffering from very serious head/brain injuries and I can't believe he's still fighting. But Akiyama is a hardcore Judo fighter so i'm sure it will primarily be a grappling match.

I think Masato will beat Soon but its always interesting to boxers make the transition into K-1. Should be an excellent fight

Kid Yamamoto is one of the least known and most entertaining fighters in all of MMA. He arguably has the best hands in MMA and has deadly KO power. This is a guy that always puts on a great match.

Uno has always had entertaining fights when i've watched him and his most recent loses come from some of the best LW fighters in the world.

And knowing K-1 there will be a ton of crazy K-1 matches as well. Whether this card will be good or not is still up in the air since the final card hasn't been announced yet but so far i've got to admit i'm intrigued.

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His striking is quick, crisp and accurate, and on the ground he's a BJJ Blackbelt. Koscheck might have the better wrestling, obviously, but Joslin can submit him, and outstrike him at will.
A fairly good rundown, he has a better standup, he won't knock Koscheck out I think, his power is somewhat lacking but he'll score his points.

Koscheck will take him down but his ground game is vastly superior. He's a black belt and only lost to Fabiano in a pure grappling match a year back. In fact I'm not sure that he won't submit Koscheck outright from guard (his GnP is real sloppy, he might catch him with a triangle or an triangle amrbar).

That being said Koscheck might take it or a draw might happen; Joslin takes the standup barely, Koscheck gets takedown points and Joslin has more subs attempts. I'm fairly confident that Joslin will win but it should be close.

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K-1 has released information on their upcoming Dynamite NYE card. It's their biggest PPV of the year and regularily beats PRIDE in terms of attendance in Japan. It is a mix of K-1 (kickboxing) and MMA matches.



LMAO!! Akebono vs. Giant Silva is hilarious. Can't say its my cup of tea but the Japanese fans will eat that up. Now one of these guys will finally have an opportunity to win a match.

Its always great to see Sakuraba back. But i'm worried about his health. He is suffering from very serious head/brain injuries and I can't believe he's still fighting. But Akiyama is a hardcore Judo fighter so i'm sure it will primarily be a grappling match.

Akiyama has become a complete mma player has great striking abilities, he knocked out smirnovs with a perfect setup to the high kick and has real fast hands. He's the next big thing (well as much one can be at 31) and he's gonna be way too much for Sakuraba. It might be the first in ring murder. And I'm a big Sakuraba mark.

I think Masato will beat Soon but its always interesting to boxers make the transition into K-1. Should be an excellent fight

Kid Yamamoto is one of the least known and most entertaining fighters in all of MMA. He arguably has the best hands in MMA and has deadly KO power. This is a guy that always puts on a great match.

He makes more money on endorsements than all of pride and ufc fighters combined. He's crazy mainstream in Japan.

Uno has always had entertaining fights when i've watched him and his most recent loses come from some of the best LW fighters in the world.

And knowing K-1 there will be a ton of crazy K-1 matches as well. Whether this card will be good or not is still up in the air since the final card hasn't been announced yet but so far i've got to admit i'm intrigued.

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The right hand side, first audio file.. Dana White confirms Rampage Jackson, Razor Rob, Faber, Herring, Salavarry.

Razor Rob and Faber are huge for 155.

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Just listened to that interview.....I'll try to paraphrase it:

Aformentioned fighters (Salaverry, Herring, Razor, Faber, Rampage and others not mentioned yet)
-Hey, anytime you can get more quality fighters in your organization that's always a good thing.

WFA guys with IFL Connections: Dana says that's not a problem, and they will be able to work UFC as well.
-I've got to think this will be a problem.

WEC purchase: Dana confirmed, and seems to want to get WEC on TV....and keep it as a separate organization (no swapping of fighters). There will be no crossover at the beginning....but there is a possibility for a Super Bowl type show down the road. Wants to make WEC the number two promotion.
-Not sure how this one is going to work, considering that UFC has the lion's share of talent. I think if he goes with the developmental angle, it would work well.....but I guess he wants to keep them separate and make WEC big.

PRIDE: Says it's a possibility that he buys it.
-I'll believe it when I see it.

Crocop: Dana - "I've been looking at lots of guys"
-Good dancing, Dana.

On Tito/Chuck II: Dana predicts 1.2 million buys.
-That's some big talk. I'd say somewhere in the 700K range.

HBO: Dana says that he's trying to secure a deal with HBO for UFC and not WEC
-HBO is definetly the best of the premium cable channels....but there is something to be said for being in 80 million+ homes on Spike. It sounded like he wasn't going to abandon Spike...but it working on something with HBO. How much more programming can they put out?

2007 Shows: They will be running 10-11 PPV's this upcoming year, one of which will be in Montreal (April 7th) for Hughes/GSP III. Dana also promised more UFN's, and 4-5 shows in England. He also mentioned that a Mexican TV station is now running UFC programming (also mentions that he is planning on running in Mexico). Mentioned that Florida and Texas are future homes for UFC events.
-With all the talent he's been adding...I'm sure he can run that many shows and have most of them be good. It's also real solid that he's branching out from Nevada/California.


Then...you got this news that they have a new syndicated show called UFC Wired.
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...=3090&zoneid=2


Dana has really made a big splash with these announcements. Now he has to make it all work, and keep it from becoming the WWE purchase of WCW.

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On Tito/Chuck II: Dana predicts 1.2 million buys.
-That's some big talk. I'd say somewhere in the 700K range.
Hughes/Penn did 700k buys.

Chuck/Tito will do more

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Hey Trees,

Is that April 7th in MTL confirmed for sure ?

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