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11-15-2006, 01:33 PM
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Alexander Mogilny = HHOF ?

a simple question, will Alexander Mogilny make the HHOF

I'm 100% sure he'll make it, being of the best goal scorer to ever play the game.
Yes I'm biased but I still think he makes it

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11-15-2006, 01:47 PM
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I don't think so but it would't be a big surprise these days.

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Well I think he should but I'm biased as well. Not sure if he'll make it.

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No. Didn't do enough over his career and he has never been a winner due to a complete lack of effort.

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a simple question, will Alexander Mogilny make the HHOF

I'm 100% sure he'll make it, being of the best goal scorer to ever play the game.
Yes I'm biased but I still think he makes it
Bias or no, Mogilny as one of the best ever goal scorers?! Where does that come from, that one 76 goal year playing with Lafontaine aside, i'm not seeing much factual evidence.

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No. Didn't do enough over his career and he has never been a winner due to a complete lack of effort.
What do you mean has never been a winner? That's simply not the case.

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11-15-2006, 03:20 PM
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He won a single cup and for the playoff run if memory serves me correct he was more of a passenger than he was a leader. He has put up nice statistics but really you take away his one monster year and what are you left with - a really talented player who wasn't able to do much with his skills a 30-40 goal scorer who was known to take shifts off.

Over a point per game in the regular season a total which dropped by half during the playoffs. I always expect a slight drop as the games get tighter but in the case of Mogilny it is a huge drop - especially when it comes to goals scored where in the regular season over his career he has chugged along at a very respectable 0.48 goals per game. In the playoffs however that number drops to 0.31 goals per game - a drop of almost half once again. For an elite goalscorer 39 goals in 124 playoff games just isn't good enough for the hall.

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No question about it.. He's a HHOF

Great career bothered by injuries tho but more importantly no1 has pointed out here that Mogilny opened the door for Russian players.

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a simple question, will Alexander Mogilny make the HHOF

I'm 100% sure he'll make it, being of the best goal scorer to ever play the game.
Yes I'm biased but I still think he makes it
Mogilny HHOF worthy? Best goal scorer ever?... That activates my hilarity unit.

Mogilny could've been, but never was. Just not enough to warrant a HHOF induction.


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No question about it.. He's a HHOF

Great career bothered by injuries tho but more importantly no1 has pointed out here that Mogilny opened the door for Russian players.
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No, never accomplished enough.

One monster season in 1993 (a year where EVERYONE in the NHL had a monster season).

A 55 goal season, a 43 goal season, and a bunch of 30's.

Over 100 points twice, over 80 4 times.


Not bad, but lacked the intangibles to put him over the top. He was an enigma, and his effort level was often questionable. Never really a leader, and nothing really of note in the playoffs.

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Hopefully not. But I wouldn't be surprised.

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Well for the record Elvi, Mogilny was on 3 teams in a row that played at least 20 games in the playoffs. 2 teams to make the finals in a row and 1 cup winner.

He's not a leader by any means, but you can't say he's not a winner.

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And Chris Dingman has won two cups

Just being on a team doesn't make them a winner on the team. Mogilny is as guilty of this as is anyone - first playoffs with Jersey Mogilny scores 7 points in 23 games. Second with Jersey - 16 points in 25 games. In Toronto 11 points in 20 games. 34 points in 68 games? And you call that a winner for someone whose main strength is offense?

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Moginly shouldn't be close to making the HHOF. He had great talent but he didn't have the motivation or the heart. His play in the playoffs isn't that great. Furthermore, he never got remotely close to winning a Hart trophy.

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I have a higher opinion of Mogilny than most here, but I still don't think he's HoF caliber.

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I've been a huge fan of Mogilny, and wouldn't be upset if he were inducted.

But realistically, he doesn't have a robust enough portfolio of accomplishments (either statistically, in terms of awards, or in terms of more subjective intangibles) to make it. Of the "big 3" early 90's troika of Fedorov, Bure, Mogilny, I'd say Mogilny is easily the least likely and least deserving.

Feds is a shoe-in, Bure is deserving but on the bubble, Mogo...I don't think he quite measures up.

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It depends on how many years from now until he retires that he plays alongside Marc Savard.

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Alexander Mogilny is one of the most phenomenally talented players to ever play the game. He had world class skating, stickhandling, shooting and playmaking skills. He could have been a perennial 50-60-goal threat.

Which is what makes him such a colossal disappointment. He had two seasons in which he played to potential: 1992-93, when Pat LaFontaine brought the best out of him; and 1995-96, when he scored 50 goals in about 60 games, looked to be a lock to break Bure's team scoring record, and then disappeared down the stretch. He had more seasons that would be classified as disappointments than seasons in which he met his potential.

He won a Cup, but he was not a key player on that New Jersey team by any stretch of the imagination. In the 2001 playoffs, he had a terrific start in the post-season, but then went through a massive offensive power failure and didn't score a goal for a month.

But here's the clincher argument. I remember in the 1999 draft, one scout said of Pavel Brendl: "He's Alexander Mogilny. And that's not meant as a compliment." When comparisons to a player (who should be in his prime) aren't meant as a compliment, it tells you every reason why he doesn't belong in the HHOF.

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I don't think so. He only had a couple of great seasons. Although he certainly had the talent to be a Hall of Famer.

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Mogilny had no guts and was never a winner.... no way he gets into the HHOF.

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I do like Mogilny, especially in his prime (monster year) he was awesome, yet i think he won't and shouldn't get in the HoF.

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Mogilny had a bad knack for playing well in his "contract" years. And ignoring other years. He's not that much better than Yashin to be honest and no one on the face ofthe earth would ever put Yashin near the HHOF.
Mogilny was a 2nd team all-star twice, and althoguh that's good a guy like John Tonelli had the smae all-stars and won 4 Cups yet never made it.

Dick Duff shouldnt be in there so Mogilny was a better player meaning it wouldnt surprise me either way

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That 95 season Mogilny had Peter Zezel and Cliff Ronning or worse as his linemates

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That 95 season Mogilny had Peter Zezel and Cliff Ronning or worse as his linemates
Not superstars, but they were both pretty decent players actually.

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