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11-15-2006, 12:36 PM
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2007 Cold-Fx NHL All-Star Game - Only 2 Habs on the Ballot...

...and Huet isn't one of them!

We can only vote for Souray and Koivu

"You can vote for Buffalo's Ryan Miller, Atlanta's Kari Lehtonen, Toronto's Andrew Raycroft, Carolina's Cam Ward, Pittsburgh's Marc-Andre Fleury and the New York Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist, all of whom have higher goals-against averages than Huet."

"As for defencemen, you can vote for Sheldon Souray, but not for Andrei Markov, who is the Canadiens' best defenceman. The only other Hab on the ballot is captain Saku Koivu."


http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/...855de1&k=13129

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Rediculous...Cam Ward? Seriously?

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Fleury??? And no Higgins??

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It's been that way for years now.

Simply because Montreal as been seen as a no star team for a decade.
I guess the Montreal market can be over looked since it's a sure thing.
No need to promote there players.

Also proves to show that the people who make these list don't actually know most players. Souray maybe killer on the PP but as far as I'm concerned Our best D's are Markov and Komisarek. Cause they are actually good everywhere on the ice.

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they want to promote the "stars" and not the ppl who actually play better. it's the league's choices that really matter in the end and not the ballots.

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both of our goalies have been very good but dont be ridiculous, none of them deserve a spot at the all-star game. I expected both Markov and Higgins as possible candidate though, i'm a little surprised.

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they want to promote the "stars" and not the ppl who actually play better. it's the league's choices that really matter in the end and not the ballots.
Exactly.

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both of our goalies have been very good but dont be ridiculous, none of them deserve a spot at the all-star game. I expected both Markov and Higgins as possible candidate though, i'm a little surprised.
so you are saying that Raycroft, Ward and Fleury are MORE deserving to be on the ballot than Huet or Abby?

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so you are saying that Raycroft, Ward and Fleury are MORE deserving to be on the ballot than Huet or Abby?
Gerber was their first choice but he declined.

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...and Huet isn't one of them!

We can only vote for Souray and Koivu

"You can vote for Buffalo's Ryan Miller, Atlanta's Kari Lehtonen, Toronto's Andrew Raycroft, Carolina's Cam Ward, Pittsburgh's Marc-Andre Fleury and the New York Rangers' Henrik Lundqvist, all of whom have higher goals-against averages than Huet."

"As for defencemen, you can vote for Sheldon Souray, but not for Andrei Markov, who is the Canadiens' best defenceman. The only other Hab on the ballot is captain Saku Koivu."


http://www.canada.com/topics/sports/...855de1&k=13129

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Thoughts? It seems that a goalie can't be more than 25 in order to appear on the ballot

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Raycroft and Fleury are deserving, but I don't think Ward should qualify. Stats don't tell the entire story; Fleury has been very good, and Raycroft has been incredible if only for the last 6 games (since the Ottawa spankings).

Souray should be a shoe-in since the East's defenseman pool is so weak. Koivu really has no shot at making it. Sundin, Crosby, Lecavalier, Briere and Forsberg will all go ahead of him. Brind'amour and Spezza are also a possibilities.

Oddly though, it doesn't look like they're going to list the forwards by position, and just list them as "forwards" so we could end up with 10 or 11 wingers.

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Who cares, nobody from the Habs is going to be voted in as a starter no matter what names are on the ballot.

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Who cares, nobody from the Habs is going to be voted in as a starter no matter what names are on the ballot.
I think Souray has a pretty decent shot at being a starter. The only people on that list who have been having great seasons are Souray, Tallinder, Boyle and maybe Kaberle. As I said earlier, the East has a porous stock of defensive talent.

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Who cares. I'll take 1 Stanley up and 0 All-stars every year.

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Here is the listing for both conferences

2006-07 COLD-fX / NHL All-Star Fan Ballot

** denotes first career appearance on ballot

EASTERN CONFERENCE

Goaltenders

Martin Brodeur, New Jersey Devils
Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh Penguins **
Olaf Kolzig, Washington Capitals
Kari Lehtonen, Atlanta Thrashers **
Henrik Lundqvist, New York Rangers **
Ryan Miller, Buffalo Sabres **
Andrew Raycroft, Toronto Maple Leafs **
Cam Ward, Carolina Hurricanes **

Defensemen

Jay Bouwmeester, Florida Panthers **
Dan Boyle, Tampa Bay Lightning
Brian Campbell, Buffalo Sabres **
Zdeno Chara, Boston Bruins
Tomas Kaberle, Toronto Maple Leafs
Bryan McCabe, Toronto Maple Leafs
Chris Phillips, Ottawa Senators
Brian Rafalski, New Jersey Devils
Wade Redden, Ottawa Senators
Sheldon Souray, Montreal Canadiens **
Henrik Tallinder, Buffalo Sabres **
Alexei Zhitnik, New York Islanders

Forwards

Maxim Afinogenov, Buffalo Sabres **
Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa Senators
Patrice Bergeron, Boston Bruins **
Daniel Briere, Buffalo Sabres **
Rod Brind'Amour, Carolina Hurricanes
Erik Cole, Carolina Hurricanes
Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh Penguins **
Chris Drury, Buffalo Sabres
Patrik Elias, New Jersey Devils
Peter Forsberg, Philadelphia Flyers
Simon Gagne, Philadelphia Flyers
Brian Gionta, New Jersey Devils **
Scott Gomez, New Jersey Devils
Dany Heatley, Ottawa Senators
Marian Hossa, Atlanta Thrashers
Jaromir Jagr, New York Rangers
Olli Jokinen, Florida Panthers
Saku Koivu, Montreal Canadiens
Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta Thrashers
Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay Lightning
Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh Penguins **
Michael Nylander, New York Rangers **
Alex Ovechkin, Washington Capitals **
Brad Richards, Tampa Bay Lightning
Miroslav Satan, New York Islanders
Brendan Shanahan, New York Rangers
Jason Spezza, Ottawa Senators **
Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay Lightning
Eric Staal, Carolina Hurricanes **
Mats Sundin, Toronto Maple Leafs

WESTERN CONFERENCE

Goaltenders

Manny Fernandez, Minnesota Wild
J.S. Giguere, Anaheim Ducks
Nikolai Khabibulin, Chicago Blackhawks
Miikka Kiprusoff, Calgary Flames **
Roberto Luongo, Vancouver Canucks
Dwayne Roloson, Edmonton Oilers
Marty Turco, Dallas Stars
Tomas Vokoun, Nashville Predators

Defensemen

Rob Blake, Los Angeles Kings
Scott Hannan, San Jose Sharks **
Nicklas Lidstrom, Detroit Red Wings
John-Michael Liles, Colorado Avalanche **
Scott Niedermayer, Anaheim Ducks
Mattias Ohlund, Vancouver Canucks
Dion Phaneuf, Calgary Flames **
Chris Pronger, Anaheim Ducks
Robyn Regehr, Calgary Flames
Mathieu Schneider, Detroit Red Wings
Lubomir Visnovsky, Los Angeles Kings **
Sergei Zubov, Dallas Stars

Forwards

Jonathan Cheechoo, San Jose Sharks **
Pavel Datsyuk, Detroit Red Wings **
Pavol Demitra, Minnesota Wild
Shane Doan, Phoenix Coyotes
Marian Gaborik, Minnesota Wild
Martin Havlat, Chicago Blackhawks
Milan Hejduk, Colorado Avalanche
Ales Hemsky, Edmonton Oilers **
Jarome Iginla, Calgary Flames
Paul Kariya, Nashville Predators
Patrick Marleau, San Jose Sharks
Andy McDonald, Anaheim Ducks **
Mike Modano, Dallas Stars
Brenden Morrow, Dallas Stars **
Ladislav Nagy, Phoenix Coyotes **
Rick Nash, Columbus Blue Jackets **
Markus Naslund, Vancouver Canucks
Brian Rolston, Minnesota Wild
Joe Sakic, Colorado Avalanche
Daniel Sedin, Vancouver Canucks **
Henrik Sedin, Vancouver Canucks **
Teemu Selanne, Anaheim Ducks
Ryan Smyth, Edmonton Oilers
Steve Sullivan, Nashville Predators **
Petr Sykora, Edmonton Oilers
Joe Thornton, San Jose Sharks
Keith Tkachuk, St. Louis Blues
Doug Weight, St. Louis Blues
Henrik Zetterberg, Detroit Red Wings **
Nikolai Zherdev, Columbus Blue Jackets **

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Lol no Kozlov, no Pothier and Ryan Withney ( 25-30min dman who have good offensive numbers) and no Higgins and Markov for the habs well thats sad but we cant do anything about it.

Does it means that those players have no chances to be there?

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There are no write-ins, so anyone who isn't on the ballot can't get in.

It's not like the All-Star game is actually for the best-performing players, anyway. It's all a popularity contest designed to publicize the players that have the most fan appeal.

Higgins and (especially) Markov have very little fan appeal. Higgins could turn into a Ryan Smyth-type, but Markov is so plain he's not who the NHL is (or should be) targeting to represent the league.

The All-Star game isn't for us after all, it's for the people who aren't fans, or are only casual fans.

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I think Souray has a pretty decent shot at being a starter. The only people on that list who have been having great seasons are Souray, Tallinder, Boyle and maybe Kaberle. As I said earlier, the East has a porous stock of defensive talent.

Lidstrom > Kaberle
Phaneuf > McCabe
Pronger > Redden
Neidermayer > Chara
Schneider > ____
Zubov > _____
Regehr > ______
Visnovsky > ______


the list could go on!

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Lidstrom > Kaberle
Phaneuf > McCabe
Pronger > Redden
Neidermayer > Chara
Schneider > ____
Zubov > _____
Regehr > ______
Visnovsky > ______


the list could go on!
I think you need to look up what porous means.

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There was a write in on the vote I just made. I wanted mainly to vote for the Habs. I suggest we all head over to NHL.com and vote our Habs in, and write in Markov so that he'll have a chance!

I voted Koivu - Ovechkin - Shanahan - Souray - Campbell - Brodeur (Write-In: Markov)

And for the west, I voted Sakic - Modano - (Cheechoo or Thornton, don't remember) - Liles - Phaneuf - Luongo

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Gerber was their first choice but he declined.
Hahahaha you can't possibly be serious

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Higgins and (especially) Markov have very little fan appeal.
Really? I dunno about you guys but I totally mark out whenever Higgins is on the ice. He does all the little things...scores some nice goals too. Nice goals are appealing aren't they?

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Frankly, I doubt Higgins is a known name to many casual hockey fans outside of Montreal... yet!

How would you feel if you saw a ballot for an all-star game and could not recognize most of the names on the list? It'd be an instant turn-off if you ask me. That's why they call them all-stars, they're players even casual out-of-town hockey watchers would probably recognize.

I put Higgins as my write-in for the East and hopefully, a whole bunch of you peeps will too. I think he deserves some time in the spotlight outside of Montreal.

Souray got my vote for sure, and sadly for Koivu, I could not justify to myself voting him in front of a whole bunch of East forwards. Again, for Huet, could you really justify to yourself of voting him in ahead of a guy like Brodeur without being a complete homer?

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Again, for Huet, could you really justify to yourself of voting him in ahead of a guy like Brodeur without being a complete homer?

no...definitely not ahead of someone like Marty...but for sure ahead of someone like Ward, Kolzig, Raycroft or Fleury!

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All-star Game Votes...as Of Today...

EASTERN CONFERENCE


FORWARDS

1. Sidney Crosby, Pittsburgh, 83,664
2. Alex Ovechkin, Washington, 63,921
3. Daniel Briere, Buffalo, 53,749
4. Maxim Afinogenov, Buffalo, 53,320
5. Chris Drury, Buffalo, 42,201
6. Jaromir Jagr, NY Rangers, 40,794
7. Evgeni Malkin, Pittsburgh, 36,281
8. Marian Hossa, Atlanta, 28,263
9. Ilya Kovalchuk, Atlanta, 26,146
10. Eric Staal, Carolina, 21,525
11. Mats Sundin, Toronto, 21,076
12. Brendan Shanahan, NY Rangers, 20,977
13. Rod Brind'Amour, Carolina, 20,609
14. Peter Forsberg, Philadelphia, 18,494
15. Tomas Vanek, Buffalo, 14,182
16. Saku Koivu, Montreal, 12,704
17. Erik Cole, Carolina, 11,698
18. Dany Heatley, Ottawa, 11,363
19. Vincent Lecavalier, Tampa Bay, 11,179
20. Martin St. Louis, Tampa Bay, 10,492
21. Jason Spezza, Ottawa, 9,468
22. Patrik Elias, New Jersey, 8,308
23. Patrice Bergeron, Boston, 7,936
24. Daniel Alfredsson, Ottawa, 7,544
25. Simon Gagne, Philadelphia, 7,054
26. Brian Gionta, New Jersey, 6,898
27. Scott Gomez, New Jersey, 6,729
28. Olli Jokinen, Florida, 5,422
29. Darcy Tucker, Toronto, 5,175
30. Miroslav Satan, NY Islanders, 4,650
31. Vyacheslav Kozlov, Atlanta, 4,345
32. Michael Nylander, NY Rangers, 4,133
33. Brad Richards, Tampa Bay, 3,995.

DEFENCE

1. Brian Campbell, Buffalo, 57,988
2. Zdeno Chara, Boston, 56,939
3. Tomas Kaberle, Toronto, 56,139
4. Henrik Tallinder, Buffalo, 46,924
5. Bryan McCabe, Toronto, 46,672
6. Sheldon Souray, Montreal, 44,526
7. Brian Rafalski, New Jersey, 30,907
8. Wade Redden, Ottawa, 29,042
9. Jay Bouwmeester, Florida, 26,669
10. Alexei Zhitnik, NY Islanders, 19,222
11. Dan Boyle, Tampa Bay, 14,793
12. Chris Phillips, Ottawa, 10,573.

GOALTENDERS

1. Ryan Miller, Buffalo, 63,818
2. Martin Brodeur, New Jersey, 59,386
3. Marc-Andre Fleury, Pittsburgh, 23,045
4. Cam Ward, Carolina, 19,517
5. Andrew Raycroft, Toronto, 17,983
6. Kari Lehtonen, Atlanta, 14,411
7. Olaf Kolzig, Washington, 11,170
8. Henrik Lundqvist, NY Rangers, 10,876.

FOR THE REST OF THE WESTERN CONFERENCE...CHECK OUT

http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?articleid...e&service=page

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