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11-24-2006, 12:19 PM
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RUMOR: Martin Gerber for Marc Denis (e2)

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Today @ 1:11 AM ET | Comments (81) See, only 1 hour after my day off and I am back to work...1:08 AM, Black Friday. Only three hours until my mother heads to the mall for the annual 4 am store opening sales. God speed mom!

Anyway, Darren Dreger has come out on TSN and said that Muckler is talking to other GMs about Martin Gerber. There is a general feeling that this is a sign that Emery, who HAS INDEED played a major part in the Sens revival, may be the #1. However one of my sources tonight in Canada tells me that Gerber is highly sought after by the Lightning and perhaps the only salary cap move either team could make to shake things up would be a swap of goalies.

"There are some who believe that Emery is a number one and some who don't think so for the long hall," said my source,

Could be an interesting move for both teams, and it would bring Gerber back to the division in which he has had so much success, and give the Sens a real strong guy should Emery slip or get injured.

We will stay on it.

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11-24-2006, 12:33 PM
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I'll pass...

There are other ways to free up $1M.

I'd rather ice Guard.

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I'll pass...

There are other ways to free up $1M.

I'd rather ice Guard.
But if Eklund says it it must be true!

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11-24-2006, 12:58 PM
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I seem to recall that Denis was a goalie many of you wanted instead of Gerber. Some even suggested trading Havlat for him. Now he is worse than Gerber?

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11-24-2006, 01:00 PM
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I seem to recall that Denis was a goalie many of you wanted instead of Gerber. Some even suggested trading Havlat for him. Now he is worse than Gerber?
Let it be known, I've never suggested such a thing.

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11-24-2006, 01:05 PM
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I'd do that move in a heartbeat. Denis > Gerber IMO, and comes with a cheaper price tag. Something tells me Tampa would want more - perhaps a d-man like Schubert in the deal.

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11-24-2006, 01:07 PM
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That will happen right after Liles goes to Edmonton.

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I would do it. I've always liked Denis.

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11-24-2006, 01:12 PM
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Just a quick flip over to the Lightning board. I don't think they have the cap room to bring in Gerber.

EDIT: sorry it will put them right AT the cap.

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11-24-2006, 01:16 PM
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Gerber > Denis by far. Denis is doing nothing in TB and is not a quality NHL Goaltender. He was brought in to be a starter and has flopped!!! He is useless.

37 Marc Denis, TB G-14 W-5 L-7 GAA-3.29 SV%.878

Better to wait until Gerber improves his confidence and stats than get more for him.


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I've never been a big fan of Denis, and, I think every concern we have over Gerber applies to Denis as well. In fact, I think it's more likely Gerber bounces back to his previous form, than Denis, IMO.

The only thing Denis offers is some salary relief. If Muckler thinks that Gerber is pretty much done, and won't regain his previous form, then, this deal goes down. We just accept that our back-up will cost us $3M, and hope that Denis is good enough in that role.

I also don't see how this deal goes down from Tampa's perspective. This move will give them fits with the cap. They won't be able to carry any spare bodies, and will need to hope they stay injury free.

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11-24-2006, 01:19 PM
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Just a quick flip over to the Lightning board. I don't think they have the cap room to bring in Gerber.

EDIT: sorry it will put them right AT the cap.
I posted this rumour in the other Gerber thread and basically said the same thing. The only way this works is if other players are added to balance out the contracts. I had Phillips+Gerber for Boyle+Denis or Corvo+Gerber for Kuba+Denis. Cap hits are essentially equal except that Phillips is a UFA next year and that could work in TB's favor if they are indeed looking to shed some cap room next year. Plus I love Boyle for a host of reasons and would love to see him back home in Ottawa. Not crazy about losing Phillips though and the Gerber for Denis swap I'm not nuts about either. Maybe it's just me but I'd rather have Gerber.

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11-24-2006, 01:37 PM
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Yeah I'm not too thrilled by this idea either... If we're going to trade Gerber for a cheaper goaltender, it might as well be someone that is a lot cheaper, not only 700k cheaper.

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11-24-2006, 01:49 PM
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I don't mind the trade. I'd really be in favour of it based on when Denis' contract is up. If it is shorter then Gerber's, expiring this year or next, that certainly helps our situation.

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11-24-2006, 01:53 PM
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I don't mind the trade. I'd really be in favour of it based on when Denis' contract is up. If it is shorter then Gerber's, expiring this year or next, that certainly helps our situation.
Both goalies are on deals that expire in 2009.

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11-24-2006, 01:57 PM
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Yeah they both were signed for 3 years, but Denis got $8.6M over these 3 years instead of $11.1M like Gerber. Denis gets $2.87M per season while Gerber gets $3.7M per season... So basically, we'd do this trade to supply Emery with a $2.87M backup instead of having a $3.7M backup... not that huge of a difference, but it's still almost a full million more in our pockets.

IF that deal would also land us a guy like Boyle, it could be interesting, but it'd depend on who we'd have to send the other way...

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11-24-2006, 02:47 PM
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I don't believe it.
They posted the stuff on Alfie there as well, and huh.. it amounted to nothing.

No way do I believe it.

The fat lady aint singing...

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11-24-2006, 02:52 PM
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Well it was brought up on Sportsnet at noon briefly so it should have "some" merit I would think...

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11-24-2006, 03:02 PM
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Denis is doing nothing in TB and is not a quality NHL Goaltender. He was brought in to be a starter and has flopped!!! He is useless.
LOL! Read that again, then replace "Denis" with "Gerber."

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11-24-2006, 03:10 PM
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Not only is it a stupid, pointless lateral move - it wouldnt exactly be the kind of move that would endear players to either team in th efuture.

hey we just signed you to a 3 year 12 million dollar deal! We love you, we've scouted you and think you've got what it takes, were proud to have you on board. thanks for committing to us.

3 weeks later:

Well Martin youve played 6 or 7 bad games and frankly we now believe your garbage and have decided to trade you for your doppleganger in Tampa.
Bye! dont forget to tell your friends about us.


Gerber has not played well, but that proposal is simply retarded.
if Ottawa were to trade Gerber, it would be to get out of a long term backup goalie cap committment, they wouldnt be looking to have the same player with a similar contract in return.

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11-24-2006, 03:18 PM
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Way too soon to give up on Gerber.

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11-24-2006, 03:19 PM
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It's not going to happen.

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Well it was brought up on Sportsnet at noon briefly so it should have "some" merit I would think...
No not necessarily. They had a huge article on Alfie.. and how he was being scouted.

It had zero merit whatsoever.

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No not necessarily. They had a huge article on Alfie.. and how he was being scouted.

It had zero merit whatsoever.
Not that I'm disagreeing, but how do you know? None of us know how close trades came to being completed.

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I'm much less worried about Muckler doing something like this now that he is out of panic mode. I doubt it happens. And the fact that Low is with the team working with Gerber instead of out scouting,not to mention Murray also giving him a vote of confidence on his positioning being better makes me doubt it even more.

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