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11-27-2003, 01:34 PM
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Jagr an option?

With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?

It's an option... i'm just not sure. depends on whta they would want from us!!! and... once mogilny comes back i'd wanna boot jagr back to czech republic but he coudl help... if he wanted to

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?
Concept's interesting. Problem is though, even though Washington's willing to pick up that much salary, if they do institute a salary cap, then I believe that his full salary's worth gets factored into Leafs payroll regardless of who pays it.

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?

Still wouldnt do it. With Sundin, Nolan, and Mogilny on the payroll I dont think we can afford to add another expensive forward. We have plenty of forward depth, we need to save that money and any assets for when/if a top-pairing defenseman becomes available IMHO.

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Still wouldnt do it. With Sundin, Nolan, and Mogilny on the payroll I dont think we can afford to add another expensive forward. We have plenty of forward depth, we need to save that money and any assets for when/if a top-pairing defenseman becomes available IMHO.
This organization's made $37,000,000 profit over the last 2 seasons... I think they can afford one of the elite players in the game.

John Ferguson Jr. was on the Fan 590 minutes ago (live) and he said if something's available and if it makes sense, he'll do it.

Personally, I'd love to see him in Toronto... I don't think he'd be as much as a problem as he's been in Washington. I think the critical media would humble him and Pat Quinn's not a rookie, he won't take the **** that Cassidy's been putting up with.

Jaromir's also said he'd love to play in Toronto, he called it "The Mecca of Hockey".

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This organization's made $37,000,000 profit over the last 2 seasons... I think they can afford one of the elite players in the game.
Exactly. *You* think they can afford it. I guarantee that they would have a different opinion.

If the Leafs went out and got Jagr, then I guarantee you that when Roman Hamrlik or Alexei Zhitnik or Keith Carney or somesuch kind of player becomes available later this season they'll be crying poor.

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he's a 10 million dollar headache playing at 50% health.
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he's a 10 million dollar headache playing at 50% health.
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Washington's willing to pay off a bunch of that contract... he'd probably fall to around $5,000,000-$7,000,000/year.

And that "headache playing at 50% health" is putting up a point a game on an absolutely horrible team.

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Jagr, Mogilny, Sundin, Kaberle & Nieuwendyk. (as the guy in front of the goal) Sounds like a decent Power Play unit doesn't it?

I don't really see this happening though.
And maybe Jagr is a soft euro with mental issues or maybe he is one of the best hockey players on earth. I doubt we will see the real Jagr as long as he is stuck with a non contending team and having all the weight of being the top guy in the club on his shoulders. Both those issues would be resolved if he were to come to the leafs, even though Jagr is more skilled than anyone on the team, Sundin's status as a leader and captain would draw attention from him over the long run. Any way, Jagr IS a bit of a gamble, but then again this is probably the last and only chance this team has to reach the ultimate goal.

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Washington's willing to pay off a bunch of that contract... he'd probably fall to around $5,000,000-$7,000,000/year.

And that "headache playing at 50% health" is putting up a point a game on an absolutely horrible team.

that pt a game is 3 pts 1 game 0 the next two
and he's on the ice for as many goals against
that will improve our defense

he's a cancer, he doesn't put out, and the caps are dying to get rid of him

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and if the caps are willing to pay 20 million they would want 2 or 3 solid young players in return

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that pt a game is 3 pts 1 game 0 the next two
He has a 10 game point streak going right now.
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and he's on the ice for as many goals against that will improve our defense
He's definately not a great defensive player... but that's not his role.

He's also not much of a liability defensively...

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?
depends what you'd have to give up. I think Quinn would straighten him out pretty good.

But, nah.

I'd rather see that money somewhere else.

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Id be more worried about his attitude than anything else. I dont know, I dont like it.

But perhaps with the Roberts, Sundins, Nolans already here, the pressure would be off of him ..and Im sure Roberts would put him in his place if he got out of line :p

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With guys like Quinn, Nieuwendyk, Sundin, Roberts, etc... I think he wouldn't put up that same attitude that he does in Washington where he's dealing with a sophomore coach and a bunch of young players on the team.

Pat Quinn would grill him.

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this is nonsense
the team needs to get younger
our aging stars are injury prone

ferguson would never do it,
he only brought in vets for the 1 yr
end of story

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Jagr? no thanks!

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?
Jagr has been a headache the last few years, he refused to compete in the playoffs his last year as a Penguin. Mario just wanted him gone, now the same is true with the Caps. So why the Leafs would risk so much on this project would just not make sense.
We need help on D. Mogilny will be back this year (hopefully), and when he does return we'll have a bunch of forwards who all command alot of ice time. Personally I don't wish to see Jagr here, now if this was the Jagr of 5 or 6 years ago sure, but not anymore.

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?
NO ....JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!

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I'd rather see the Rangers pick up Jagr and then have the Leafs go after either Lindros or Carter, since one will most likely have to moved if Jagr goes to NYC.

For Jagr to play well he has to be happy, and I don't know if Jagr would be happy in Toronto. Both Lindros and Carter are Toronto guys and would love to play here (Lindros has always said that), I would bet both would play very well for and in Toronto.

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Another thing to consider is whether or not Mogilny, Nolan, or Jagr would want to, or be capable of, switching wings. As it is all 3 play RW which would mean one of them receiving 3rd line ice-time unless one flipped to the left side.

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NO ....JUST SAY NO!!!!!!!
Why?

I realize he has a bit of an attitude problem and doesn't come cheap, but on the ice he's one of the greatest players in the last 20 years.

I think you guys are looking too much into his off ice problems... it wasn't as big of a problem a few years ago when he was on a contending team.

He's too dominant to dismiss the idea.

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Why?

I realize he has a bit of an attitude problem and doesn't come cheap, but on the ice he's one of the greatest players in the last 20 years.

I think you guys are looking too much into his off ice problems... it wasn't as big of a problem a few years ago when he was on a contending team.

He's too dominant to dismiss the idea.
You answered you own question in your post and the other point is he was one of the greatest and the key word is WAS

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that pt a game is 3 pts 1 game 0 the next two
and he's on the ice for as many goals against
that will improve our defense

he's a cancer, he doesn't put out, and the caps are dying to get rid of him
look at the team he is on...he will play around 20 mins per nite, the other team will obviously score when he is on the ice. Jagr is even on the year and Mogilny is a -1. i dont hear u complaining about him....

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so who would you all give up to get Jagr ?

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With Mogilny out for 3 months or so, would any of you go after Jagr?

He'd come very cheap (in terms of assets)... Washington is also (apparentely) willing to pay off $20,000,000 of that huge contract.

Thoughts?
Please NO!! Last thing we need is another one of these guys! Lets try getting our hands on solid young talent instead, and get a good mix of veterans and youngsters.

 
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