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GDT: Red Wings @ Predators 11-25-06

Game Day Notes from NashvillePredators.com

GAMEDAY: Preds host Red Wings, 7PM

November 25, 2006



TONIGHT'S MATCH-UP

WHO: Nashville Predators (13-5-2) vs. Detroit Red Wings (12-5-3)

TICKETS: Less than 1,000 remain!! Order online, call (615) 770-PUCK or visit any Ticketmaster outlet

WHEN: 7 p.m. CT

WHERE: Gaylord Entertainment Center, Nashville, Tenn.

TONIGHT THE PREDS WEAR: Gold

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Nashville’s Central Division rival from the Motor City visits the Gaylord Entertainment Center for the first time of the season tonight, having added former Predators defenseman Danny Markov this summer. The Wings hit the ice this season for the first time in 20 years without longtime captain Steve Yzerman, who retired in July. Brendan Shanahan, the all-time leading scorer against the Predators, also departed, leaving the 10-time Stanley Cup Champions searching for leadership entering 2006-07.

Game time is 7:00 p.m. A limited number of tickets remain; see the box at the right to order now. The game will be televised locally on FSN South and broadcast on SportsRadio 560-AM.

One of the most dynamic and flashy puck handlers in the league today, Pavel Datsyuk is coming off a breakout season that saw him accumulate 87 points in 75 games alongside Swedish speedster Henrik Zetterberg. The Russian pivot also won the 2006 Lady Byng Trophy for gentlemanly play. Datsyuk tallied seven points in seven games against the Predators last season.

These divisional foes face off in the second of eight 2006-07 head-to-head meetings tonight at the GEC. Detroit shut out the Predators 3-0 in Motown on Nov. 10, so Nashville will be primed to return the favor in their own rink.

The Predators lead the Central Division with 30 points after blanking the Vancouver Canucks 6-0 Thursday night at the GEC. Nashville holds a three-point lead in the standings over Detroit, which is coming off a 3-2 loss in St. Louis Friday night.

PREDATORS NOTES: The Predators improved to 4-0-1 in the second half of back-to-back matches with their win vs. Vancouver on Saturday… The Predators exploded for four goals vs. the Canucks in the second period and have now outscored opponents 27-11 in the second stanza this season… Nashville is off to its second-best start in franchise history with a record of 14-5-2 (30 points) after 21 games. The Predators began the 2005-06 season with eight straight wins and were 14-4-3 (31 points) after their first 21 tilts... The Predators have not allowed a power-play goal in their last three games (13-13)… Nashville currently has 16 players on its roster that have played every one of their NHL games in a Predators' uniform, including all seven defensemen… Paul Kariya (4g-17a-21pts) and Steve Sullivan (6g-15a-21pts) are tied for the team lead in scoring. Kariya, who had three helpers on Thursday, leads the club with 17 assists and has eight points (1g-7a) in his last six games… David Legwand has six points (3g-3a) in his last six games… Alexander Radulov notched his first career multi-point game on Thursday with a goal and an assist… Scott Hartnell, who had a goal and two assists on Thursday, is now tied with Jason Arnott for the team lead in goals (7). Hartnell needs three more penalty minutes to match Scott Walker as the Predator's all-time leader (460)… Shea Weber posted a goal and an assist vs. the Canucks and leads club d-men in scoring (4g-9a-13pts)… Darcy Hordichuk scored his first goal of the season on Thursday night.

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deja vu all over again. feels like last march. well time to suck it up and move on, it's gameday. redwing gameday at that.

...playing with confidence in front of a guy is different when he's getting a spot start than when he's the man. what you hope here, is that the team doesn't go into offensive shock the first few games here trying to play too conservatively.

...the wings are struggling coming in. 0-1-3 in their last four and the last two of those at home. detroit is a system team. beat their system and you will beat them. first you have to somehow shut down detroit's breakout game and passes. last game they got us here, breaking our forecheck easily with a quick pass and two and waltzing into our defensive zone with speed virtually every possession. two ways to stop this, with either a better quicker forecheck putting pressure on their d-men to make the initial pass harder. or to back off the forecheck and basically try to clog up the neutral zone by standing everyone up at the blueline. we have to do one or the other. look for us to try to put more pressure on the original pass. i don't know if that's the best way to handle them, but that's just the way we are built as a team.

...the wings pp is still dead last in the league. last in pp % (11%), last in total pp goals scored (12). detroit is also 26th in the league in pk % (80.3%). they've allowed 23 pp goals (we've allowed 17). these stats read like something from alice-in-wonderland. detroit, with the worst special teams in the league after 22 games played. to beat detroit, we have to make them pay for this and take advantage of their struggles here.

...you know you're not going to get many shots on detroit coming into a game. they're going to hold onto the puck for long periods with their good passing and puck possessing skill. they're going to clog up the neutral zone to prevent speed thru the neutral zone on defense, and they're expert at forcing everything wide along the boards once you enter the offensive zone, and then their dmen are excellent at winning battles along the board for the puck. so how do you counter these strengths?.. well for one, a team with our speed has to always look for the quick counterattack strike against them... catch one of their dmen slightly up ice, chip and go around them and take advantage of some of the fact their dmen aren't overly fast, or hit the long bomb straight up the middle counterattacking. we have to control the puck ourselves better and keep it off their sticks. most importantly, when we do get our scoring chances, we have to bury a large percentage of them. you know you won't get many, so you must make them count when you do.

we have to take advantage of the their specialty teams and outscore them on special teams. on the pk, we have to kill as much time as possible forechecking them down ice to keep them from getting set up. once they're set up, we have to fight to clear the front of the net. there basic pp strategy is to get schneider point shots, with traffic in front.

hasek surprised people and started for them last night against stl. they had said that before the first of the year, hasek would get no back to back night starts to make sure he stayed healthy. so everyone expected them to save hasek for us. their 3 game losing streak forced them to start hasek last night at home, i think showing signs of a little desperation on their part. osgood is out. joey macdonald is the backup right now. a guy with one career NHL start and no career wins. a good AHL goalie. so will detroit start him? or will they violate their own public statement about starting hasek in back to back games?.... have no idea who we see honestly

after 4 straight losses, you get the feeling watching these guys that they're becoming a little desperate.. you can see them pressing a little here. taking chances they didn't take before. dmen pinching a little more. offensive guys gripping the sticks a little harder. goalies not quite as calm in net. would be very important to come out early tonight and get ahead. make them play from behind and they just might unravel at the seams a little here. a great night to come out flying, and beat these guys is my thought.

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in mase we trust. of course if we (don't) score like the last game with the wings it doesn't really matter who we have in net.

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I had the opportunity to watch St Louis beat the wings last night, and much of their success came from clogging up the neutral zone. They also worked really hard as a team to backcheck and block passing lanes. Of course, Legace stopping 41 of 43 shots didn't hurt either!

I was also at the first meeting of the season between the Wings and Preds where we just couldn't get our act together. As long as we don't have another "off-night" like that November 10th game, I think this game should be one of the most exciting to watch this year. I can't remember there ever being a time when the Wings were struggling and the Preds were flying high.

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I had the opportunity to watch St Louis beat the wings last night, and much of their success came from clogging up the neutral zone. They also worked really hard as a team to backcheck and block passing lanes. Of course, Legace stopping 41 of 43 shots didn't hurt either!

I was also at the first meeting of the season between the Wings and Preds where we just couldn't get our act together. As long as we don't have another "off-night" like that November 10th game, I think this game should be one of the most exciting to watch this year. I can't remember there ever being a time when the Wings were struggling and the Preds were flying high.

Yes, Legace was the difference last night. Don't come in thinking Detroit is too cold. All 3 losses were in OT. Expect a tight game with Detroit keeping shots against low. A 3-2 win with whoever gets the best breaks being the winner. It should be a great game to watch.

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well Ill be in front of the computer tonight, listening to a feed.

I just want a better effort than we had during the last matchup.

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Tonight should be the battle of the backups. If Hasek plays, he will risk injury ( doctors say that men over 80 years old shouldn't play on consecutive days ).

Enjoy the game!

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...the wings pp is still dead last in the league. last in pp % (11%), last in total pp goals scored (12).
Call up the goons and beat 'em into submission, and laugh at them when they can't score with the man advantage. Ok, I'm kidding, but honestly, be physical.

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well we cant win by letting in softies.

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Preds tie it up 1-1


later Lang drops like a girl when Suter touches him, Wings on a PP.

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2on1 goal by Dumont, blooper shot by Radulov

Preds up 3-1

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PP Goal, Zidlicky cruising down the back door. Perfect feed by Legwand.

Preds 4-1

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6-1... "yeah!"


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Great game, Weber was a beast tonight! PK sees the ice better than anyone, great passes and not to mention the great shot.

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Sorry couldn't participate in the GDT tonight guys, missed the game due to Family coming in. Looking at the stat sheet, it looks like we drilled the Wings.

A-rad with ANOTHER goal....the guy produces, no matter how little the ice time.

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Sorry couldn't participate in the GDT tonight guys, missed the game due to Family coming in. Looking at the stat sheet, it looks like we drilled the Wings.

A-rad with ANOTHER goal....the guy produces, no matter how little the ice time.
Yeah it was one of those flukey/ deflected up over the head of the goalie type of things that certain guy have go in and others have the puck land behind the net.

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Yeah it was one of those flukey/ deflected up over the head of the goalie type of things that certain guy have go in and others have the puck land behind the net.
it was also largely in part to a beautiful feed by hamhuis, who hesitated long enough to get the lane to open up.

Zidlicky's goal was thanks to a marvelous feed from legwand, kariya's goal came from a terrific pass from erat, and dumont's goal from a great pass from Sullivan.

we've got some playmakers on this team, for sure.

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it was also largely in part to a beautiful feed by hamhuis, who hesitated long enough to get the lane to open up.

Zidlicky's goal was thanks to a marvelous feed from legwand, kariya's goal came from a terrific pass from erat, and dumont's goal from a great pass from Sullivan.

we've got some playmakers on this team, for sure.
For quite a while we've had playmakers, just haven't always been able to turn the plays into goals.

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this is one of those mornings you have to remind yourself that is was only one game, they were playing their backup goalie, they are an old team and were playing the second straight night, and that the season is mighty young. because if you don't, a pred fan might just find himself as giddy as a schoolgirl this morning. i'm too old to be giddy, but i'm about a notch below it.

a perfect example of what this team is capable of if nothing else. been saying, that when this team gets the pp to going, we could be something else. all of a sudden, it's a going. you break the wings down from their 'systems' and you expose the fact that individually we are the more talented team for the first time in our history. you get ahead, force a skating game with the wings and you see we are more talented both offensively and defensively in a wide open game. you force a skating game and you begin to see how much faster we are man for man.

the most impressive thing to me, is how the team has reacted with two body blows here in a week. arnott first, then vokoun. and you go out and hang a 6 spot on detroit the next game. that is what is impressive to me, this team could well have gone into a shell after the trama of this past week, many teams would have, the preds would have in years past.

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a few more specific observations;

...the pp has caught fire these past two games. mainly because of one reason. scott hartnell. the guy is killing people camped in the crease, screening and deflecting pucks. because of this guy, the team is attacking the net on the pp for the first time this year. cute hell, get me the frigging puck down deep.

...the pk remains red-frigging hot. 4 straight games no pp goals allowed. sure it was only 4:39 last night. but as of right now, our pk is playing as well as any in the league. we've come from oblivion all the way up to 13th in pk % (84%), but the real bottomline is we have climbed all the way to 6th fewest pp goals allowed (17), and we gave up half of them in the first two games of the year.

...all three scoring lines with an even strength goal last night. 6 different goal scorers. 12 seperate players with at least a point. balance. 11 people now with more than 11 points. an amzaing 14 seperate players have now scored between 3 and 8 goals.

...some fantastic individual efforts last night. i could name no less than 12 players that had great games, and no one that i thought had what would have to be called a poor one.

...chris mason. deserved a star. sure he gave up a couple of goals. but the guy made huge saves in key times, when this was still a game. couldn't have asked for more from the guy. there were no less than 3 great saves in there with those 30 something saves of his. the two he gave up, both where we allowed guys time and space straight down the slot. now to be honest, neither of them were 'great' goals allowed. both lang and zetterberg attacked the weakness of butterfly goalies, getting the goalie to go down and nailed a corner high. both times mase started down just a fraction of a second early. but this is the wings we're talking about here.

...some great first assists last night.. the beauty from sully to dumont on the two on one. the great hesitate, draw two men and hit the guy driving open down the slot from hamhuis to radulov. the gorgeous one from legwand to a pinching zidlicky. the timonen point shot that hartnell deflects. the fine centering one by erat square on the tape of kariya in the mid slot. these passes made the goals. simply handed them to the goalscorers honestly.

...got burned on a bad change on the first goal. we didn't get the puck deep enough in their zone before changing and this allowed zetterberg to get hit with the pass straight up the gut, before we could get a new line on. split zids and zanon, but you cann't really lay too much fault here individually. on the last one, hamhuis got caught outside too far and got left standing on that little touch pass to lang that let him walk in. but don't let either of these fool you, we played a great defensive game in general.

...vasicek played hard. still not very effective in the offensive end, but he played hard and showed some grit. he better play hard, because if you're not scoring on this team and you're not a star on the pk, you're going to be in trouble when upshall and arnott return. still good to see him use his size somewhat, and mix it up a little.

...radulov. the guy with the golden touch. didn't have that good of a game really, but he scores even when he gets his only shot blocked. funny, how goal scorers, simply get the breaks. now of course what you really see, is that a goalscorer, has the offensive instincts, and puts himself in a position to score goals better than nonscorers. he knows exactly where and when to be at a place to get the best chance of scoring. sometimes this appears to be luck, almost randomness.. but it's not usually really. well maybe this one was last night, but being there to get the scoring chance wasn't.

...i actually thought maybe we should have come out and put goehring in net after a few minutes of the third up 6-1. mainly because we have to protect mason in anyway we can. i know it would have been risky in it's own right, but every rush mason faces has it's own risk for this team right now.

...watching goehring out there in warmups is almost surreal. the guy is so frigging tiny, that he can give up shots over his shoulders when he's standing in net. maybe the only goalie i know of that can lay out flat, stack the pads and not cover half the net from one post to the other. god protect us, especially mason.

...every year, you see a few hundred fewer wing jerseys at each game. nothing much fun than watching a group of wing fans get up and walk out during the game, because they've given up.. all the waving and screaming "see ya, ya'll come back" priceless and gratifying. still cann't believe the announced attendance was a couple hundred less than capacity. surely we could have sold 200 more tickets for a frigging wing game.

...greg pogue is a better post game host than wily. he knows the game better. he knows what he saw. he knows stats that are important. always enjoy the post game show when it's on 560. that is of course, if 560 had a range greater than a 5 year old baby monitor. once you leave the parking lot, well you're pretty much out of range. of course you cann't hear it in the arena either. so that must mean there is about 50 square blocks that the station can be heard period... most frustrating... of course, i did hear jack, and al the regulars and the stupid callers here too, but i couldn't hear them long thankfully because i got out of the 1 mile broadcast radius fairly quickly

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I saw the Legwand pass on the powerplay, and it was a beauty! Was this game taped and put up on the internet ? If so, I may be downloading it

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The only thing I would change about the game was all the Wings fans sitting around me constantly complaining about how they were getting unfair treatment from the refs and how we didn't deserve to win.

It was a sweet victory though....

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I saw the Legwand pass on the powerplay, and it was a beauty! Was this game taped and put up on the internet ? If so, I may be downloading it
It's not on the CI Forums.. so if you find it, let me know

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