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11-28-2006, 09:46 PM
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Alexander Perezhogin

He is a very good player, but my expectations for him were a little high I think. I expected him to be a 30 goal guy.

While I do think he is kinda a bust offensively, I belive he is a great 3rd liner. I do believe he will be an effectively speedy guy who can pop in 10 to 15 goals each year.

Do you guys agree? I'd keep him on our 3rd line with Johnson for years to come. Maybe even Bonk can stay for another year or so.

Also, do you see him going back to Russia if he continues to play 3rd line minutes? I'm not saying he may want out of Montreal but do you think he has a future as a Hab?

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11-28-2006, 09:47 PM
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While I do think he is kinda a bust offensively, I belive he is a great 3rd liner. I do believe he will be an effectively speedy guy who can pop in 10 to 15 goals each year.

Do you guys agree? I'd keep him on our 3rd line with Johnson for years to come. Maybe even Bonk can stay for another year or so.

Also, do you see him going back to Russia if he continues to play 3rd line minutes? I'm not saying he may want out of Montreal but do you think he has a future as a Hab?
Why would he leave to Russia? Kovalev, Markov, Samsonov are here to stay, our prospects are Gravorsky, Kost (2 of them), Emelin.... the guy as a mini-Russia Speaking club right here, rofl

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11-28-2006, 09:49 PM
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i actually like perez development. right now they're trying to get him to play some defense. Soon, he'll get his offense going and we can get a hossa-lite type plyer.

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i dont think he will go to russia, he is having an solid season, having one of the better plus minuses in the NHL, although not producing great stats(2G, 5A, 7PTS) he only recorded 19 PTS last season in 66 games. IMO he has been one of montreal's better players and is the hardest worker on the team.

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11-28-2006, 09:55 PM
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i dont think he will go to russia, he is having an solid season, having one of the better plus minuses in the NHL, although not producing great stats(2G, 5A, 7PTS) he only recorded 19 PTS last season in 66 games. IMO he has been one of montreal's better players and is the hardest worker on the team.
it's crazy cause i mean imagine if he had more points how much higher his +/- would be

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He's sorta a weird player though. Watching this guy on the ice you can tell he has awesome offensive potential. He is very speedy and always seems to have the puck. I love watching this guy score, he gets so excited lol.

But then you look at his stats and see he only has 2 goals. The way the guy is playing you would think he has 8 or 9 goals. What gives?

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11-28-2006, 09:57 PM
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MAXIM AFINOGENOV
2006-2007 Sabres 19 12 15 27
2005-2006 Sabres 77 22 51 73
2003-2004 Sabres 73 17 14 31
2002-2003 Sabres 35 5 6 11
2001-2002 Sabres 81 21 19 40
2000-2001 Sabres 78 14 22 36
1999-2000 Sabres 65 16 18 34


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11-28-2006, 10:01 PM
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He's sorta a weird player though. Watching this guy on the ice you can tell he has awesome offensive potential. He is very speedy and always seems to have the puck. I love watching this guy score, he gets so excited lol.

But then you look at his stats and see he only has 2 goals. The way the guy is playing you would think he has 8 or 9 goals. What gives?
This is what development is.

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11-28-2006, 10:04 PM
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Our 3rd line isn't getting typical 3rd line minutes. If our 4th line was stronger, Montreal would have the best overall offence in the NHL next to Buffalo.

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How the hell does anyone bust offensively at 23? He'll have two or three seasons of modest output then breakout with a 60-70 pt season. That's how it goes for a lot of players of his caliber.

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11-28-2006, 10:16 PM
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MAXIM AFINOGENOV
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2005-2006 Sabres 77 22 51 73
2003-2004 Sabres 73 17 14 31
2002-2003 Sabres 35 5 6 11
2001-2002 Sabres 81 21 19 40
2000-2001 Sabres 78 14 22 36
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How the hell does anyone bust offensively at 23? He'll have two or three seasons of modest output then breakout with a 60-70 pt season. That's how it goes for a lot of players of his caliber.
He certainly has the talent to go the Erat or Afinigenov route, but he could just as easily go the Bulis route.

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MAXIM AFINOGENOV
2006-2007 Sabres 19 12 15 27
2005-2006 Sabres 77 22 51 73
2003-2004 Sabres 73 17 14 31
2002-2003 Sabres 35 5 6 11
2001-2002 Sabres 81 21 19 40
2000-2001 Sabres 78 14 22 36
1999-2000 Sabres 65 16 18 34

That's a good point

However, I like Perez more than I liked Afinogenov at the same point in their developement. He's much better defensively and he's a more complete player than Afinogenov was. But, Maxim really exploded two years ago, and it's unlikely that Perez makes the same kind of splash anytime soon imo.

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He certainly has the talent to go the Erat or Afinigenov route, but he could just as easily go the Bulis route.
he's much tougher and more talented than Bulis.

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He certainly has the talent to go the Erat or Afinigenov route, but he could just as easily go the Bulis route.

may you're cable bust and all you're able to watch are canuck games....you evil evil man

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11-29-2006, 12:14 AM
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He certainly has the talent to go the Erat or Afinigenov route, but he could just as easily go the Bulis route.
He already does several things way better than Bulis and the offensive skills are obvious.. He played an awesome third last night (didnt see the 1st and 2nd) and this kid will only improve...

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MAXIM AFINOGENOV
2006-2007 Sabres 19 12 15 27
2005-2006 Sabres 77 22 51 73
2003-2004 Sabres 73 17 14 31
2002-2003 Sabres 35 5 6 11
2001-2002 Sabres 81 21 19 40
2000-2001 Sabres 78 14 22 36
1999-2000 Sabres 65 16 18 34


My favourite comparison.

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My favourite comparison.
Mine as well and the look like twins!!

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He certainly has the talent to go the Erat or Afinigenov route, but he could just as easily go the Bulis route.
I'll write this with plenty of confidence...

There's no way that Perezhogin will turn out like Bulis (just the attitude, effort & huuuuge smile of Perezhogin is a HUNDRED times better than Bulis's overall attitude; and by the way I was a fan of Bulis, not a big one, but...). I also feel that Perezhogin has way more talent than Bulis (maybe it's also Perez's great attitude that will enable him to surpass Bulis's talent by a landslide). Bulis is 29? Perez is 23. I'd keep Perez over 2, even 3 Bulis's!!
I'm absolutely loving Perezhogin! He already IS a PLAYER (and a darn good one, so exciting to watch!!...definitely the opposite of a bust). I love it when he scores or gets involved in a point (assist)...he looks like a kid with that huuuuuuuge, great smile of his. Gotta love this kid. I thank Russia for Perezhogin. He's a keeper. So much offensive potential (he will one day score 30 or more sooner than later, and...he's so useful right now...).


Upside: Afinogenov (or close to it)
Worst that can happen: ends up a consistent/smart/dangerous (two-way player) with 15-20 goal, 25-30 assists PER season...and he also won't cry if he's on the 3rd line

I'm a huuuuuuuuuuuuge fan of Perezhogin. Can't you tell

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He is a very good player, but my expectations for him were a little high I think. I expected him to be a 30 goal guy.

While I do think he is kinda a bust offensively, I belive he is a great 3rd liner. I do believe he will be an effectively speedy guy who can pop in 10 to 15 goals each year.

Do you guys agree? I'd keep him on our 3rd line with Johnson for years to come. Maybe even Bonk can stay for another year or so.

Also, do you see him going back to Russia if he continues to play 3rd line minutes? I'm not saying he may want out of Montreal but do you think he has a future as a Hab?
I dont think perez has peaked yet.

He reminds me a little bit of afinogenov in his earlier years

I'm not saying he will ever become as good as maxim but I would be surprised if his production just plateaus at the current rate.

And I'm gettimg more and more impressed by his 2 way play every game.

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I like perez but feel the way his icetime goes that the coaching staff is not too impressed with him. He has showed flashes this year hopefully he becomes more consistant over the next couple of seasons.

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Perezhogin would be much more dangerous if he stopped falling down all the time. If he manages to correct that problem, the guy will be a lot better.

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I like perez but feel the way his icetime goes that the coaching staff is not too impressed with him. He has showed flashes this year hopefully he becomes more consistant over the next couple of seasons.
how much ice-time are you expecting for a guy playing on a 3rd line with NO PP or PK time at all ?

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He is a very good player, but my expectations for him were a little high I think. I expected him to be a 30 goal guy.

While I do think he is kinda a bust offensively, I belive he is a great 3rd liner. I do believe he will be an effectively speedy guy who can pop in 10 to 15 goals each year.

Do you guys agree? I'd keep him on our 3rd line with Johnson for years to come. Maybe even Bonk can stay for another year or so.

Also, do you see him going back to Russia if he continues to play 3rd line minutes? I'm not saying he may want out of Montreal but do you think he has a future as a Hab?
30 goals, on a 3rd line... you're joking right ?

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He definitely needs to buy a heavier stick.

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