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12-17-2006, 07:42 PM
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can't disagree more...

Did you see the wild at the start of the year, with gaborik and demitra clicking....

Gaborik makes demitra and vice versa, and also without gaborik puts way more pressure on our 2nd line, they get manned up more.

Gaborik is the key to the wilds success whether you love him or hate him, he makes it go.

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12-17-2006, 08:08 PM
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Even with him, we are an average team. He may score goals, but he can't do that injured. And whos to say we could pull in someone who is just as dynamic? I think the only reason people don't want to get rid of him sometimes is b/c hes basically the only all-star caliber player we technically have. Rolston is a wonderful player but compared to other people at his position, hes still average.
I think our record now compared to before he got injured might disagree with you. Also, Gaborik, as injured as it seems like he always is, is still a great player. If we could trade him for another great player that doesn't get hurt as often, fine, but that is extremely hard to do and predict ones health. Heatly for Hossa+ comes to mind, but not many others.

Now Gabby might be all that, but Rolston he is not, at least not yet. Rolston actually plays both sides of the puck. Awesome forechecker and backchecker. He also plays endless amounts of special teams minutes, playing the point on the powerplay and sometimes double shifting the PK. Plus that slapper is one of the best in all the league. He might not have the fancy moves and acceleration but that is it. Much more complete player and hardly average by league standards.

Other than that, your dead on.

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12-18-2006, 03:24 AM
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As a huge Wild fan (and not a fantasy owner...ever) hes the worst person to have on your team (Fantasy and real) outside of NHL07 lol. Seriously he gets injured all the time, he signed his 3-year contract so hes still getting paid...this is just like when he held out for half the damn season. He is a greedy player who gets pissy when he can't win.

Honestly I would trade his crying *** to someone and at least pick up someone who doesn't complain as much as he does. Hes on pace for a what??? 30 game season so far? Hes missed out on 2 full months of games and has fewer goals/assists than former SCSU player Ryan Malone who was injured at the beginning of the year lol.

I'm all for trade of this guy, don't need him anyways. Lets get some Defensive players so we can actually stop the GA.
I'm not the biggest fan of Gaborik either, but he makes this team go. He is the only gamebreaker we have, with all due respect to Rolston, Demitra, etc. And gamebreakers are a rare breed, not every team has one. Yes, he is only one player, and his absence shouldn't throw the team into a downward spiral, but it does, year after year. Outside of the first two years (when the team was downright horrible, and Gabby was still wet behind the ears), we've only had one full season of healthy Gaborik - 02/03. Do you remember what happened that season? It seems illogical for a Lemaire-coached team to be dependant on one single player so much, but it's true - he is monumentally important. And if we go and trade this guy, it better be a Heatley for Hossa type of deal, not a Thornton type deal. More defensive players will not pull this team out of mediocracy. As of today, the Wild are one impact player away from making playoffs, and one impact D away from making some noise there. That impact player will soon return (and hopefully stay healthy for the rest of the season), if only we could swing a trade for that one defenseman...

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12-18-2006, 06:53 PM
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I think our record now compared to before he got injured might disagree with you. Also, Gaborik, as injured as it seems like he always is, is still a great player. If we could trade him for another great player that doesn't get hurt as often, fine, but that is extremely hard to do and predict ones health. Heatly for Hossa+ comes to mind, but not many others.

Now Gabby might be all that, but Rolston he is not, at least not yet. Rolston actually plays both sides of the puck. Awesome forechecker and backchecker. He also plays endless amounts of special teams minutes, playing the point on the powerplay and sometimes double shifting the PK. Plus that slapper is one of the best in all the league. He might not have the fancy moves and acceleration but that is it. Much more complete player and hardly average by league standards.

Other than that, your dead on.
Gabby is a wonderful player, and yes if he could stay healthy for 84 games I would bet he would be up there in goals thats for sure. But thats the thing, hes only gone 1 season for 81 games and another at 78...both he scored 30 goals and had over 30 assists. Thats the guy we need to have back. If not, then what was the point of his holdout that we were all so fussy about? What was the point of getting Demitra honestly (honestly we all know the only reason he was brought in was to keep Gabby happy having a fellow teammate from Slovakia with him).

Guess I'm just as frustrated as all of you are with them because I've watched them religiously since 2000 (parents are season ticket holders) and I even bought Center Ice package just so I could watch them we all want that magical season back where we were unbeatable it seemed like.

Rolston is an amazing all-around player, and that is why he deserves to be the flat out captain. However, in the eyes of the league and the eyes of most of the fans....its all about the production you produce, and when you are getting compared to a 19 y/o prodigy of The Great One...you gotta feel for em

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12-18-2006, 06:57 PM
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I'm not the biggest fan of Gaborik either, but he makes this team go. He is the only gamebreaker we have, with all due respect to Rolston, Demitra, etc. And gamebreakers are a rare breed, not every team has one. Yes, he is only one player, and his absence shouldn't throw the team into a downward spiral, but it does, year after year. Outside of the first two years (when the team was downright horrible, and Gabby was still wet behind the ears), we've only had one full season of healthy Gaborik - 02/03. Do you remember what happened that season? It seems illogical for a Lemaire-coached team to be dependant on one single player so much, but it's true - he is monumentally important. And if we go and trade this guy, it better be a Heatley for Hossa type of deal, not a Thornton type deal. More defensive players will not pull this team out of mediocracy. As of today, the Wild are one impact player away from making playoffs, and one impact D away from making some noise there. That impact player will soon return (and hopefully stay healthy for the rest of the season), if only we could swing a trade for that one defenseman...

If they were to trade Gabby, they better actually think and stop acting like the rest of the MN pro teams who trade off great players for subpar ones. However, I bet if they put him on the trading block they could get some great talent out of him. Only problem would be they wouldn't think long term (meaning getting a younger great player). So in a way, I can see why they would just stick it out. I just hope soon he gets his act together and during the off season, instead of getting pissy b/c a teammate steals his g/f and going and partying all the time he would concentrate on his health. This organization has sacrificed countless people and money on him, to keep him happy, and keep him wanting to play there b/c he wants to. I don't think he would get the greeting his does at the Xcel anywhere else in the NHL IMO.

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12-19-2006, 08:54 PM
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So is this guy ever going to return....anyone have the latest?

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12-19-2006, 09:02 PM
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nope never, he returned to slovakia and his latest hobby is gardening..you no longer have to worry about him, nor do any fantasy owners.

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12-20-2006, 03:29 AM
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If they were to trade Gabby, they better actually think and stop acting like the rest of the MN pro teams who trade off great players for subpar ones.
AJ Pierzensky for Boof, Joe Nathan, and Francisco...

Culpepper for a 2nd...

What bad trades

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12-20-2006, 09:41 AM
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Yeah but,

Gabby has laced-pants...

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12-20-2006, 10:17 AM
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Dec 18 Gaborik met with Minnesota general manager Doug Risebrough on Friday, and both decided that he would immediately atler his therapy to a more "aggressive" approach, according to the Minnesota Star-Tribune. The injured left wing, who has been out since Oct. 20 because of a strained groin, will abandon his current strengthening program and return to the Los Angleles-based specialist who helped him return to the ice within two weeks of final treatment last season.

Advice: The 24-year-old Gaborik, who has had chronic abdominal problems throughout his six-year NHL career, has missed 25 games this season. Gaborik will receive "agressive deep-tissue massaging and stretching" at the Horrigan Sports Chiropractic and Soft Tissue Center, where he was treated last November. Last season, he finished as the Wild's leading scorer, with 38 goals and 66 points. In seven games this year, he has four goals and three assists.

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Dec 18 Gaborik met with Minnesota general manager Doug Risebrough on Friday, and both decided that he would immediately atler his therapy to a more "aggressive" approach, according to the Minnesota Star-Tribune. The injured left wing, who has been out since Oct. 20 because of a strained groin, will abandon his current strengthening program and return to the Los Angleles-based specialist who helped him return to the ice within two weeks of final treatment last season.

Advice: The 24-year-old Gaborik, who has had chronic abdominal problems throughout his six-year NHL career, has missed 25 games this season. Gaborik will receive "agressive deep-tissue massaging and stretching" at the Horrigan Sports Chiropractic and Soft Tissue Center, where he was treated last November. Last season, he finished as the Wild's leading scorer, with 38 goals and 66 points. In seven games this year, he has four goals and three assists.
Wow, is that injury worst or comparable to a back injury???

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OK everyone that is freaking out on gaborik will eat there words..... he is goign to come back towards the end of january.... be the best player in the league from febuary on.... the wild will make the playoffs... and gaborik will be the best player in the playoffs he has proving he is god in the playoffs..... and to anyone that had a groin injury.... You dont know what its like.... so dont talk...

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12-20-2006, 09:11 PM
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Gabby is so sick, people are quick to forget when players are on the shelf. If they announced right away 2 months it would be less of a big deal but a lot of people assumed it was much much closer is all.

He came back last time and was dominant for the rest of the season as well.

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AJ Pierzensky for Boof, Joe Nathan, and Francisco...

Culpepper for a 2nd...

What bad trades
Yea and those all worked out great too didn't they. AJ got a ring with Chicago and Culpeppers is in Miami doing rap videos. Meanwhile we have Brad Johnson yet again and Rondel White who is just SOO much better than Ortiz was Look at T-wolves, could of gotten AI and got some stress off of KG's back, but nope...why? B/c our owners blow donkey dick.

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OK everyone that is freaking out on gaborik will eat there words..... he is goign to come back towards the end of january.... be the best player in the league from febuary on.... the wild will make the playoffs... and gaborik will be the best player in the playoffs he has proving he is god in the playoffs..... and to anyone that had a groin injury.... You dont know what its like.... so dont talk...
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Gabby is so sick, people are quick to forget when players are on the shelf. If they announced right away 2 months it would be less of a big deal but a lot of people assumed it was much much closer is all.

He came back last time and was dominant for the rest of the season as well.
Very true, but thats the thing. As a fan you get frustrated when you know your greatest talent is on the bench. This team isn't like Atlanta where if Hossa got injured they have Kovalchuk to take the reigns as the goal scorer. Look what happens when we lost him and Demitra for a few games (not to mention several other key players). The whole team didn't know what to do, literally. They went from being a powerhouse and being taken as for real...to "what do we do now??" Parrish still hasn't gotten his act together and performed like they want him to, and Johnnson is the same way IMO. They expected more out of those two.

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What if the Wild never got Rolston ?

Gaborik is just meh! since he came here... Never got more than 68 points, wich is very bad for a player considered by many as a true NHL superstar... Poor conditioning ? Bad health ? whatever, it makes me sick to see that year after year... All I see is a serie of stupid groin injuries.. that's terrible...

It's now to the point where I'd consider trading him for an eltite player or two hard workers who could at least play 75% of the season and bring more offense than a Gaborik and his weak groin watching the game from the stands!

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Yea and those all worked out great too didn't they. AJ got a ring with Chicago and Culpeppers is in Miami doing rap videos. Meanwhile we have Brad Johnson yet again and Rondel White who is just SOO much better than Ortiz was Look at T-wolves, could of gotten AI and got some stress off of KG's back, but nope...why? B/c our owners blow donkey dick.
And we also got Tarvaris Jackson, who looks like a very good, young quarterback. Ortiz was a mistake, Ryan will tell you that but it was also partly money to do why they traded him away.

As for the KG thing, Minnesota just didn't have enough for the 76ers to bite.

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Ortiz was a mistake? It may have turned out as one. But I recall the guy being on the shelf often like Gaborik. During his final season with the Twins, he was shopped around and not one team pulled the trigger to make that deal. Looking back, sure bad deal, remembering back then, it was time to move on.

Seems this subject could be related to whether the Wild will consider moving the guy in his final year of his contract. If all these nagging injuries persist, of course. Not that I'm for trading the guy but he really needs to play a full season at least once more in this decade. Missing a handful of games would be a welcome change.

By the way, does this guy have the absolute worst groin in pro sports? Former Viking Rick Fenney comes to mind as a local.

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You guys have any idea when Gaborik is comin back??? I need him on my fantasy team...

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You guys have any idea when Gaborik is comin back??? I need him on my fantasy team...

Bud....no you really don't trust me!! What is a guy who has constant and chronic gorin problems going to do for your fantasy team now? He had played in 10 games this season and I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't return until sometime in Februray or maybe even March.

No offense cause Gabby can be a great player and is very important to the Wild but in terms of a fantasy player he is a complete joke and you gotta be nutz to still be waiting on him. In every league I'm in he was somehow traded or dropped.


I did the smart thing and held out the sligtest amount of hope that Gabby would be back soon and was patient until I finally found some sucker to take off my hands in mind November and it's a great feeling to see I made the right decision.

To sum up my point if you are eagrly awaiting Gaborik's return and you "need" him than your team has got some serious issues!!

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Bud....no you really don't trust me!! What is a guy who has constant and chronic gorin problems going to do for your fantasy team now? He had played in 10 games this season and I seriously wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't return until sometime in Februray or maybe even March.

No offense cause Gabby can be a great player and is very important to the Wild but in terms of a fantasy player he is a complete joke and you gotta be nutz to still be waiting on him. In every league I'm in he was somehow traded or dropped.


I did the smart thing and held out the sligtest amount of hope that Gabby would be back soon and was patient until I finally found some sucker to take off my hands in mind November and it's a great feeling to see I made the right decision.

To sum up my point if you are eagrly awaiting Gaborik's return and you "need" him than your team has got some serious issues!!
Oh no I'm in first place....i have AO and Kariya on LW and St Louis and Hossa on my RW....i want him to come back so i can deal one of them for a center...Trust me he isn't hurting my team at all....I just need him for trade bait purposes

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you take fantasy hockey to serious. Key word-fantasy.

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I love Gaborik as he is one of my favorite players, but damnit man, man the f up. Put a bandaide on that injury and lets go.

Just like forseberg, it's almost bette to retire then playing 10 games a season then being injured. Wear more pads damnit, avoid hits, do SOMETHING. I thought hockey players were tough, I am really starting to see that is not true at all.

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