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12-04-2006, 06:25 AM
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Rivet?

anyone had news about his condition? will he be able to play next game? is he out for a while?

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12-04-2006, 07:56 AM
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NO news yet, however if he is injured it will be a good experience to find out how important or hazardous he is to our team.

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12-04-2006, 08:01 AM
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I agree, Rivet is more often then not a defensive liability in our own end. He is not as speedy as most of our other D corps and I often find he gets out of position way too easily and does not have the speed to get back into position (see Sundin's goal).

That being said, I'm sure there are many intangibles he brings to the team (leadership, heart, grit, determination)...but is that really enough to justify keeping him?

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12-04-2006, 08:04 AM
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Well rumousr have it he is looking for a raise on his 3.5 mill/year contrace which is not a option for Gainey.2 million tops.

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Well rumousr have it he is looking for a raise on his 3.5 mill/year contrace which is not a option for Gainey.2 million tops.
If Rivet want 3.5 millions, he will get it elsewhere.BG will offer him 2 millions and if hes not happy, by Rivet.I rather have Souray and Markov in my team

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12-04-2006, 08:12 AM
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If Rivet want 3.5 millions, he will get it elsewhere.BG will offer him 2 millions and if hes not happy, by Rivet.I rather have Souray and Markov in my team
Agreed 2 million tops. IF he wants more he can play in Nassau county.

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12-04-2006, 08:19 AM
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Since when is speculation from spectors taken seriously around here? I don't recall anyone else in the media claiming Rivet could be looking for that type of $.

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12-04-2006, 08:32 AM
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Rivet will most likely have something between 2.5 and 3 M a year...at 2.5, I might be ready to re-sign him if we fit everyone else under the cap...

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Rivet will most likely have something between 2.5 and 3 M a year...at 2.5, I might be ready to re-sign him if we fit everyone else under the cap...
He'll never get that. With the cap going down to the high 30s thanks to the pathetic attendance and tv ratings, every UFA this year will get less than they deserve.

He gets $1.8-$2-mil tops.

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With the cap going down to the high 30s thanks to the pathetic attendance and tv ratings, every UFA this year will get less than they deserve.
The cap will go even higher next year. Attendance is down, yes, but everyone and their dog raised ticket prices, so revenues are actually up from last year. TV ratings doesn't effect the salary cap, since the TV deal is already bought and paid for.

Although, a UFA getting less then they deserve would be a first, for any year since the players formed a union

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Well rumousr have it he is looking for a raise on his 3.5 mill/year contrace which is not a option for Gainey.2 million tops.
White Snake in CHFan4Ever's UFA thread from today you said Rivet or his agent was looking for $4.5M.

Can you back up either the $3.5M or $4.5M rumour with a valid source? If not, I'd suggest you stop throwing numbers around for discussion.

edit; Just realized your 3.5 figure was for his current salary. Incorrect info as he's making 2.47.


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Rivet will most likely have something between 2.5 and 3 M a year...at 2.5, I might be ready to re-sign him if we fit everyone else under the cap...
I agree with your estimate and your limit Gainey should pay for him. I might add that he should be offered 3 years at that with a club/player option in the last. Maybe he can also front end the contract to make it more attractive.

I think he'll stay on those terms and he's welcome IMO. The only way I can't see that playing out would be if Gainey is prepared to pay Markov and Souray a combined $10M plus and presuming both want stay. I'm not sure Gainey would do this, but if he does he may have to lowball Rivet to help out with cap issues elsewhere. That would be sad, but it can't be ruled out.

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If any information comes out about Rivet, it would be good to hear. The Gazette said it was a wrist injury. I hope he's all right!

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I estimate that we have 10-11 million to spend on our top 3 D's.

If Markov gets 4.5 - 5, then Souray and Rivet have to split 6 million.

I think there is a big chance that Souray gets offered 5+ million by another team, but if he doesn't, he'd still need to accept < 3.5 or 4 million... And I can't see that happening.


There is just no way we can afford both Markov and Souray. They will both be looking for more than 4.5.

With Kovalev, Koivu and Samsonov on our team, we can' be paying so much for our D.

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I estimate that we have 10-11 million to spend on our top 3 D's.

If Markov gets 4.5 - 5, then Souray and Rivet have to split 6 million.

I think there is a big chance that Souray gets offered 5+ million by another team, but if he doesn't, he'd still need to accept < 3.5 or 4 million... And I can't see that happening.


There is just no way we can afford both Markov and Souray. They will both be looking for more than 4.5.

With Kovalev, Koivu and Samsonov on our team, we can' be paying so much for our D.
Or we can be like the Leafs and pay $24M for four players

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Or we can be like the Leafs and pay $24M for four players
Exactly.


And you know than any sentence that with: "We can be like the Leafs and.." is a sentence not worth uttering.

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1. Rivet does not make 3.5 million; he makes just less than 2.5 million.

2. The cap is actually projected to rise again next year, but they don't know yet by how much. Despite bad attendance, team revenues are substantially up because most teams raised their ticket prices.

3. And though it's just an opinion, I disagree pretty strongly that Rivet is more often than not a defensive liability.

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Rivet can get 3.5 elserwhere pretty easily IMO. Hal Gill and Jay Mckee got something like 4M so...

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anyone had news about his condition? will he be able to play next game? is he out for a while?

thnx
Looks like he's in tonight.

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good news... thanks... at least one post was on the subject

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Rivet has only missed 2 games since 2000-2001...296 out of 298 played, he is our current iron man! BTW, he should not make more than 2.47-2.75M maybe climbing to 3.0M in the last year of a 3 year contract...

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