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12-05-2006, 06:46 PM
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The Capitals need....

The Capitals need a first pair defenseman that could be added anytime between now and the start of next season. I thought you guys might have a suggestion or two as to who they might make a run at. None of us gave any thought that Pothier would have been signed.

Here is probably what they are looking for:

A 2nd pair defenseman that given the shot could be a first pair player.
A defenseman with mobility, but also a full helping of grit.
A defenseman possibly with some playoff success.
A player that could be acquired in a trade or off the free agent market, but not likely to be any higher in salary than $5m.

Any thoughts? I thought Brad Stuart and Derek Morris, but both are too obvious.

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12-05-2006, 06:49 PM
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Rory Fitzpatrick for Ovechkin

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12-05-2006, 07:07 PM
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Rory Fitzpatrick for Ovechkin
Oh, come on. Don't you want the Caps to throw in a 1st or something?

To add to txpd's context...consider the following Capitals players off-limits:
Ovechkin, Kolzig, Zubrus, Clark, Pothier, Morrisonn, Green, Semin, Backstrom.

The rest, including picks, are available under the right circumstances.

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12-05-2006, 07:21 PM
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Oh, come on. Don't you want the Caps to throw in a 1st or something?

To add to txpd's context...consider the following Capitals players off-limits:
Ovechkin, Kolzig, Zubrus, Clark, Pothier, Morrisonn, Green, Semin, Backstrom.


The rest, including picks, are available under the right circumstances.
1st pair Defenseman don't grow on trees,if you wan't one everyone on that list except AO must be available (not sure why Clark is there though)

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12-05-2006, 07:27 PM
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1st pair Defenseman don't grow on trees,if you wan't one everyone on that list except AO must be available (not sure why Clark is there though)
Well we don't necessarily want a first pair defenseman, we want a second pair defenseman who can play first pair time. There would be a slight difference. And its not like we're asking for somebody's top defensive prospect either.


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12-05-2006, 07:30 PM
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Mattias Norstrom....

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12-05-2006, 07:40 PM
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1st pair Defenseman don't grow on trees,if you wan't one everyone on that list except AO must be available (not sure why Clark is there though)
Clark is their captain and a leader. He's not realistically going anywhere unless the deal is very sweet.

We're talking moreso about defensemen who are stuck in the depth chart and could flourish elsewhere if given a larger role (ala Pothier), not a true 1st pairing guy.

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12-05-2006, 07:43 PM
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I used to love Norstrom, but isn't he as out of style in the new NHL as Derian Hatcher?

He is slow and getting slower...yes?

Honestly, the Caps are looking for a 2nd pair player that is stacked up behind a quality first pair and might be more expensive than some teams want to pay for 2nd pair minutes.

Norstrom is a star on his way down. Those players are A. short term players and B. often not very cost effective.

The Capitals have a system fairly stacked with quality prospects. They are probably a far better choice for a trade with a rebuilding team than a competitive team.

Its also worth mentioning again that the Caps will probably be willing to spend $5m per for this player in free agency and in that case no players will have to be moved.

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I used to love Norstrom, but isn't he as out of style in the new NHL as Derian Hatcher?

He is slow and getting slower...yes?

Honestly, the Caps are looking for a 2nd pair player that is stacked up behind a quality first pair and might be more expensive than some teams want to pay for 2nd pair minutes.

Norstrom is a star on his way down. Those players are A. short term players and B. often not very cost effective.

The Capitals have a system fairly stacked with quality prospects. They are probably a far better choice for a trade with a rebuilding team than a competitive team.

Its also worth mentioning again that the Caps will probably be willing to spend $5m per for this player in free agency and in that case no players will have to be moved.
No, Norstrom is not slow. He's not the fastest in the league but he still plays against the top lines of everyteam the Kings play. He's about 15 levels above Derian Hatcher.

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12-05-2006, 08:03 PM
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I like the Norstrom idea. I don't believe the CAPS have any swede's in the current lineup andwith Backstrom hopefully here next season it would be nice to have someone to help him out next year. I think the CAPS should look for a veteran swede player whether forward or D to help him adjust like Zubrus is helping AO.

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12-05-2006, 08:14 PM
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From Ottawa both Priessing and Phillips are UFA after the season. The Caps might be able to sign one of them. Either would be excellent for the Caps. Phillips is experienced, solid on Defence and pretty quick though not offensively gifted. Plus while not super physical he is tough enough, is big, lays hits, will take punishment too.

Priessing is a Pothier clone. Good puck moving D-Man who plays good positionally but is not physical at all and is not strong. Pothier is better now and probably in the future. Since you have Pothier you might not want his clone.

The Sens will try to resign Phillips but if the Caps offered Willie Mitchell Money long term I don't think the Sens could keep Phillips.

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12-05-2006, 08:41 PM
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I'd like Phillips, but I wonder if he won't get paid like a #1 on the free agent market.

If his asking price went over 4.5 million or so, I think the Caps might bow out.


As far as prospects, realistically, the Caps aren't going to toss a Semin or an Ovechkin out to land a #1 defenseman... and realistically that isn't what the Caps would be in the market to add. A better suggestion would be a good #2 or #3 who might be able to take a #1 role on some nights out.

Picks and a number of prospects would be the main offers... but how much value any of that has is up for debate. After all, this forum does tend to overvalue some players.

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OK I will bite.

To Was: Brewer
To Stl: Fleishman and a conditional 3rd in 07

If brewer does not resign at the end of the season make it a 4th in 07

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OK I will bite.

To Was: Brewer
To Stl: Fleishman and a conditional 3rd in 07

If brewer does not resign at the end of the season make it a 4th in 07
I'd do it as a Caps Fan. Flash has been used Sparingly so far, and to gain a Good D-man like Brewer, im all in.

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Mattias Norstrom....
He would be a great guy to have in Washington to mentor some of the kids.

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The Capitals need a first pair defenseman that could be added anytime between now and the start of next season.
Every single team in the league needs that (except for the Ducks I guess. Their defense is unfair.)

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Eminger for Derek Morris? I'm no good at these.

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what the caps need is a 1st line center to compliment AO.

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The Capitals need a first pair defenseman that could be added anytime between now and the start of next season. I thought you guys might have a suggestion or two as to who they might make a run at. None of us gave any thought that Pothier would have been signed.

Here is probably what they are looking for:

A 2nd pair defenseman that given the shot could be a first pair player.
A defenseman with mobility, but also a full helping of grit.
A defenseman possibly with some playoff success.
A player that could be acquired in a trade or off the free agent market, but not likely to be any higher in salary than $5m.

Any thoughts? I thought Brad Stuart and Derek Morris, but both are too obvious.
Semin +(no idea who) for Kubina

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what the caps need is a 1st line center to compliment AO.
Does Pavel Datsyuk still count as a first line center?

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Does Pavel Datsyuk still count as a first line center?
pavel datsyuk would be great for the caps but who would they give up for him?

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tjarnqvist is a first pair dman

Tjarnqvist + Mikhnov for ????
<want to see mikhnov playing on the ovechkin line>

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pavel datsyuk would be great for the caps but who would they give up for him?
At this rate, maybe a draft pick. Datsyuk is going FA this summer.

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what the caps need is a 1st line center to compliment AO.
Backstrom will be over soon enough. No sense trading away assets to fill a temporary hole (that Zubrus is not doing terrible in might I add).

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