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12-07-2006, 10:55 PM
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Carbo new line in the 3rd

Kovalev-koivu-ryder samsonov-plekanec-latendresse perezhogin-bonk-johnson begin-murray-streit WILL THOSE NEW LINE WORK ? discuss it

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I liked what I saw from them, minus Murray.

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i really like the way streit play on offense...this guys is a great hockey player

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bring up lapierre and i'd be really happy

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I think Carbo should just rotate everybody next to Koivu throughout the course of the season...that way all the players will finish around 30 pts each but at least they'll all be producing

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I like those lines. Hopefully this sparks Kovalev.

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I can't wait to see a Lats - Koivu - Higgins line! Ohhhh that should be great!!!!!!

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Good call on Streit, he's a very smart player on offence. There were times when I was confusing him for Samsonov or Koivu, even. It's nice to know that we have two defenceman capable of doing a good job on forward and defence.

Now if only Yahoo fantasy hockey would list Streit as a LW/D

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Bring up Kostsitsyn and Grabovsky. Get rid of Downy and Murray.

Begin-Grabovsky-Kostsityn

It would work better, a lot better. And the line is good enough to play its minutes, so Grab and Kost wouldn't sit all night.

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Plekanec and Latendresse seemed to mesh well. I think Carbo's feeling things out in preparation for Higgins' return. Someone will have to get a demotion when he comes back, and while the likely choice a few weeks ago would have been Latendresse, it no longer is the case.

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Streit is doing great even if i hate having a defensemen playing forward but streit is better than downey,murray and begin!

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Some kind of change was needed... these lines are worth a try for atleast a few games.

I've always liked Streit, but seeing him as a forward has been something else! I like it.

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I've always liked Streit, but seeing him as a forward has been something else! I like it.
Me too. He can really showcase his shiftiness at the forward position. Looks very good behind the opposition's net, good forecheck. I don't know if a new door has just opened for him but with his new found adaptability he just became that more valuable for the Habs. Having a guy you can play just as well on D and your 4th line is really a plus.

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I agree with everyone about Streit. I agree with Kovalev on the first line but I would also like a Higgins-Koivu-Latendresse line.

It's funny listening to different Americans saying Latendresse. Sometimes it sounds like "lets undress", other times it sounds like "Lathunderess".

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well we know that first line works from the pp, an i have been saying it for some time now, kovalev WANTS to play with koivu, on the top line, it is the only thing that will motivate him

as for the second line lets hope last is not playing well only because he was with koivu. i hope he can bring some energy to that line and a finishing touch!

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As far as lines go... Samsonov - Koivu - Ryder and Latendresse - Higgins - Kovalev are what I've been thinking.

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As far as lines go... Samsonov - Koivu - Ryder and Latendresse - Higgins - Kovalev are what I've been thinking.
I wonder if Higgins would keep ruling with that new role?

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I personally quite like them, and have much enjoyed seeing Koivu and Kovalev play together at the start of last year. The Ryder-Koivu-Kovalev line worked fairly well last year when they tried it. That line will certainly be lethal. The second line worries me a bit more, but it's not like the earlier combo has been burning the league has it?

I'm curious to see if Carbonneau will try them. It really started as just a stopgap to rest Kovalev and play Lats after he had a stint on the 1st PP line. Maybe that was the turn of the Rubik's Cube that he needed...

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The thing that is great about the new lines is how Latendresse and Samsonov were working together.

Lats size and strength really clicked with Samsonvov speed on the cycle.
Pleks can also play a cycle game : in last year's playoof he, Perez & Zednik were awesome on the cycle...
It solves the 2nd line problem for now and makes use of Samsonov's strengths.

Samsonov's assets are to use speed and quick turns to create an opening. If that fails he needs to be able to just dump the puck back to the corner or behind the net.

Lats' size enables him to collect these passes from Sammy and keep the pressure on the opponent, unlike the Kovy-Sammy-Plek tendency to cough it up quickly in the offensive zone.

I think the 2nd line will produce many more chances with Lats playing with Sammy.

Kovalev's style is not to cycle and dig it out : it is to slow it down and make a finesse play. Kovalev needs to play with Koivu because on the PP these last few games they have been deadly together.


Streit has totally rejuvenated the 4th line.
His speed and play on the boards in the offensive zone has really generated some offense. If those guys learn how to finish, we could have a decent 4th line.

Or when Higgins comes back you make a 4th line consisting of PLEKS - STREIT - BEGIN.

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I think I'm the only guy who's sceptical about Higgins at C. I don't know, I guess we'll see, but there's a reason he was moved to LW, and I just don't see his game translating that well back to C.

Anyway, agreed about Streit.

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I think I'm the only guy who's sceptical about Higgins at C. I don't know, I guess we'll see, but there's a reason he was moved to LW, and I just don't see his game translating that well back to C.

Anyway, agreed about Streit.
Well, he did play 2 years as a center...it's not like he's only had a couple of games' experience. I'm more worried about how he'll produce without Koivu, regardless of if plays center or wing or whatever.

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The thing that is great about the new lines is how Latendresse and Samsonov were working together.

Lats size and strength really clicked with Samsonvov speed on the cycle.
Pleks can also play a cycle game : in last year's playoof he, Perez & Zednik were awesome on the cycle...
It solves the 2nd line problem for now and makes use of Samsonov's strengths.

Samsonov's assets are to use speed and quick turns to create an opening. If that fails he needs to be able to just dump the puck back to the corner or behind the net.

Lats' size enables him to collect these passes from Sammy and keep the pressure on the opponent, unlike the Kovy-Sammy-Plek tendency to cough it up quickly in the offensive zone.

I think the 2nd line will produce many more chances with Lats playing with Sammy.

Kovalev's style is not to cycle and dig it out : it is to slow it down and make a finesse play. Kovalev needs to play with Koivu because on the PP these last few games they have been deadly together.


Streit has totally rejuvenated the 4th line.
His speed and play on the boards in the offensive zone has really generated some offense. If those guys learn how to finish, we could have a decent 4th line.

Or when Higgins comes back you make a 4th line consisting of PLEKS - STREIT - BEGIN.
i would like to see kovalev - koivu - ryder , latendresse - higgins - samsonov , third line remains the same , and streit - plekanic - begin .

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I really liked the lines after the change was made in the third. Kovalev seems to be a useful player when playing with Koivu, but then who isn't.

Streit is great playing forward.

Hopefully Markov is back soon though.

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I really liked the new lines we saw at the end of the game vs Islanders... Looks like Carbo understood he cannot only wait to get the second line working.


Koivu, Ryder, and Kovalev obviously work well together... That line took a lot of shots from the front of the net, both on PP and 5on5.

For the second line, Lats size and Sammy's speed may produce some sparks... We saw a few, but time will tell...

Third line must remain the same, it has been the most consistent one this year. And Streit is adding interesting skills on the fourth line, really suprising to me...

Now let's just wait for higgins:

Kovalev - Koivu - Ryder
Lats - Higgins - Samsonov
Perez - Bonk - Johnson
Begin - Plekanec - Streit

Murrray and Downey on the press box, unless the habs are playing against a gritty team.

I would be very comfortable with that line up... Let's see what Carbo has in mind !!!

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