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12-12-2006, 11:04 PM
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Is It A Coincidence?

That since Kaspar has been back in the lineup, the Rangers have given up 5 goals in 4 games? Not that he's playing at a Norris Trophy level but he seems to have invigorated the team defense. Feels a lot more like last year now.

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12-13-2006, 12:13 AM
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Is it Kaspar being in, or Ozo being out?

Because the Ozo/Rachunek pairing was a disgrace tonight, it's lucky we were forechecking decently and that the Flyers were basically an AHL team out there.
The Kaspar/Rachunek pairing isn't so brutal, or it hasn't been in the last few games.

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12-13-2006, 12:38 AM
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Goaltending might have a little something to do with it.

Man, I can't believe it's already been 4 games since we got thrashed by the Islanders...

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12-13-2006, 12:42 AM
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Is It A Coincidence?
Yes, yes it is. Kaspar has sucked.

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12-13-2006, 01:49 AM
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Kasper is Good for the chemistry on the D....THE TEAM OVERALL HAS PICKED UP THE D

Even el Capitan has been caught backchecking


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12-13-2006, 04:01 AM
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coincedence? No

It's a combo of everything mentioned.

1.Kaspar's been solid since he came back, provide that physical element, while staying out of the box.
2. Ozo and Rachenuk have seen less ice time
3. The king is back, and Prince Kevin is playing damn good himself.

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12-13-2006, 09:22 AM
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Kasper is Good for the chemistry on the D....THE TEAM OVERALL HAS PICKED UP THE D

Even el Capitan has been caught backchecking

I also vote for the intangible Kaspar element. The team was a mess when he was out with injury last year too.

That said, Ozo and Rachunek reunited and it DIDN'T feel so good last night. Breaking these 2 up was a definite improvement.

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12-13-2006, 09:30 AM
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Its addition by subtraction. Ozo is a terrible defensive defenseman. He is continually out of position. Lucky last night the team played a bunch of AHL types. Ozo made Rachunek look worse than he is. Kaspar hasn't been great but he has not been a liability

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It's actually not a coincidence...

but he's not totally responsible. The third defense pairing, which has given up more than its fair share of goals, has improved, which has helped the GAA. At the same time, the goaltenders, who for a few games were facing a lot of shots, including quality shots, have been sharper. Couple that with Jagr's line controlling a bit of the play again and the emergence of Rozsival of late, and you have a lower GAA.

It's not a coincidence, but it's also not the sole reason.

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12-13-2006, 09:33 AM
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So does Kaspar stick with Tyutin when Ward comes back? Ward/Rachunek might be good for Karel.

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but he's not totally responsible. The third defense pairing, which has given up more than its fair share of goals, has improved, which has helped the GAA. At the same time, the goaltenders, who for a few games were facing a lot of shots, including quality shots, have been sharper. Couple that with Jagr's line controlling a bit of the play again and the emergence of Rozsival of late, and you have a lower GAA.

It's not a coincidence, but it's also not the sole reason.
Add all that with consistant team backchecking and fowards paying attention to detail in the defensive zone, and there are your reasons. And it is nice to have Kaspar back.
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12-13-2006, 09:40 AM
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So does Kaspar stick with Tyutin when Ward comes back? Ward/Rachunek might be good for Karel.
No. IMO I do not like to right handed defensemen playing together. Go back to Tyutin with Ward

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12-13-2006, 09:44 AM
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Kaspar had a very nice block last night, and seems to be positioning himself very well out there.

But the goaltending, skating and the forwards helping out (to me the major thing) is whats doing the job these past 4 games.

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So does Kaspar stick with Tyutin when Ward comes back? Ward/Rachunek might be good for Karel.
No thanks. I'd rather see Tyutin & Ward back together again.

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Prince Kevin is playing damn good himself.
Prince Kevin, I like that..

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So does Kaspar stick with Tyutin when Ward comes back? Ward/Rachunek might be good for Karel.
That's a tough call, because in recent games Tyutin and Ward haven't looked spectacular. However, I think I'd stay with Ward and Tyutin and Kaspar and Rachunek.

Someone mentioned in the GDT thread, and I happen to agree with them that Karel is a much better defenseman when he's not playing with Ozo. It's as if he gets running around acting as if he's the only defenseman out there (kind of true, really). So, I think Kaspar and Karel are fine.

Plus Tyutin likes to take those big swinging hip checks now. I'm not sure you need two guys on a pairing that like to kill opponents. You're bound to give up far too many odd-mans that way.

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but he's not totally responsible. The third defense pairing, which has given up more than its fair share of goals, has improved, which has helped the GAA. At the same time, the goaltenders, who for a few games were facing a lot of shots, including quality shots, have been sharper. Couple that with Jagr's line controlling a bit of the play again and the emergence of Rozsival of late, and you have a lower GAA.

It's not a coincidence, but it's also not the sole reason.
right on, fletch. The D is doing a good job of keeping traffic away from the front of the net. Lundqvist and Weekes are seeing the puck all the way through and not having to duck and lean through big bodies to keep it in sight.

Less net traffic + less deflections = less goals.

That's something the NYR D has going for itself lately

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Definitely not the only reason but I think he brings a lot more than just his game to the defense which he showed us last season. When he was out with injury the last few weeks our defense was brutal.

I also agree with Polako, the key to the improvement on defense lately has been the clearing of the crease and Kaspar has done a very good job of doing that. That and the backchecking of the forwards have been what's getting it done for us lately.

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I think it is a coincidence. The PK has been good (and the Rangers have been better at not taking bad penalties). The goaltending has been good. And they really haven't played good teams. The Panthers are mediocre, the Flyers are young and dilapidated and the Sens are inconsistent.

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i feel better when kaspar's on the ice and not bozo

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12-13-2006, 03:33 PM
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I guess I should answer my own question. I don't think it is a coincidence. I think that Kaspar is playing sound simple hockey and that's going to help any team. Getting Ozo out of the lineup is certainly a big side benefit but what I've also noticed lately is that the forwards are doing a much better job of backchecking and making smart first passes out of the zone. Someone correctly mentioned Jagr backchecking last night. Immonen is responsible defensively. Shanahan for all his goals, was a -7 until a week ago. I think that Kaspar has settled the defense down, not so much as a cornerstone player but as a nice complimentary part who just happens to be an unquestioned team leader. I believe he is in the lineup to stay.

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i feel better when kaspar's on the ice and not bozo
I do not. I'd take Ozo over Kaspar any time. D without a shot is just a waste of space and money. He cannot play dirty anymore, so he has no value whatsoever.

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i disagree. from what we've seen so far kasper has much more value than bozo. bozo brings nothing, he's offensive play has disappeared

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I do not. I'd take Ozo over Kaspar any time. D without a shot is just a waste of space and money. He cannot play dirty anymore, so he has no value whatsoever.
Have you been watching any games this season?

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It's mostly a coincidence. Although I think the team is definitely better with Ozo out of the lineup than in it. You just can't have Ozolinsh and Rachunek together as a pairing. One guy is recovering from surgery, had no training camp and seems to have lost most of his offensive talent and confidence. The other spent the last two years in Russia before returning to a league that has changed since the last time he played in it in 2003-2004. Rachunek even said in between periods of the last game that it has been a difficult adjustment for him learning the new rules. Plus these guys get PK time! At least Kaspar still plays defense reasonably well.

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