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12-21-2006, 10:42 PM
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Chistov game

I just noticed Chistov isn't getting much icetime.... what is the problem with is game? He looked so good at 19 years old during the finals against NJ.... how can someone drop that much!?!

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12-22-2006, 05:42 AM
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He's a soft, lazy floater.

I expect that he'll be sent down, traded (like he'll draw a lot of interest ) or simply waived soon.

While our coach and GM both love soft players and have stocked the entire team with them, it seems that they aren't too happy with the laziness and the floating aspects of his game.

I think we are seeing why we got him for a third round pick.

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12-22-2006, 06:46 AM
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I am going to disagree with DC

I think Chistov is a bit chippier than similar sized Russian whiz kids. I think he puts out a slightly better effort defensively too than a guy like Samsonov did.

The problem is he is very small... he hasn't been able to find confidence to rack up some points... and he has been accused of having a bad attitude off the ice.

I think he is a project... someone that a coaching staff feels that they have to 'break him in' before he can really be useful in goto situations.

Anaheim is so loaded with young talent that by the time they broke Chistov and then found room for him, he would be an UFA.

Boston might be too loaded to find the right spot for Chistov too. It is hard to say. I suppose it will depend how fast he buys into the poison coolaid.

If Chistov wants to stick around NA and make some US bucks, he does have the talent to be something special. I think it was a brilliant gamble to grab him at the cost of merely a 3rd rounder. He is expensive to have on a team as a non-scoring 4th liner, but his upside makes him worth the look.

I cant see him playing key minutes ahead of any of Axelsson/Murray/Sturm/Boyes on a regular basis anytime soon... and I don't think his upside is that of Kessel... so he will have his work cut out for him to get ahead here...

but if Sturm were to leave next season as an UFA, Chistov just might be the inhouse ready-to-go replacement...

and if he had a countryman come over that spoke the same language to ease homestickness... like zinovjev perhaps? then there could be some really good things happen on our third line at a very affordable cost next year.

Jury is out... and it wont be decided till it is actually decided when a kid has this much potential upside skill wise.

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12-22-2006, 06:56 AM
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He's a soft, lazy floater.
Well he's in good company then. It wasn't too long ago that you we're saying the same thing about Bergeron. Chistov will probably go on a big scoring streak now.

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Wow, DC, a soft, lazy flloater? I guess every holiday season needs a grinch.

On WEEI the other day Lewis said he's impressed with Chistov and that he needs to find a way to get him more ice time (note to Lewis: How about cutting Mowers' TOI?). He said he works hard, is smaller but strong, and is very well-liked by the guys. No problems at all.

I've said this in a couple other threads, but I've been surprised that he plays a more aggressive game than I would have thought, upending Gill in two separate games was a treat to see. Also didn't realize he was such a strong passer. I'd say he may lack strong hockey sense, but I'd like to see him get more ice time to see what he can do.

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Nice moves tonight, Chistov.

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What a move he made to tonight to score that goal! Brilliant!!!

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12-23-2006, 10:21 PM
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Chistov deserve more ice time after the brilliant goal tonight. I would like to see them put him with savy and muzz since tenkrat has struggled a little latley

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and if he had a countryman come over that spoke the same language to ease homestickness... like zinovjev perhaps? then there could be some really good things happen on our third line at a very affordable cost next year.
hope is not Zhamnov, hope is not Zhamnov, hope is not Zhamnov, hope is not Zhamnov, hope is not Zhamnov, hope is not Zhamnov....

Sorry, saw his pic on the media guide

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Nice moves tonight, Chistov.
Thats the first goal all season that got me up out of my seat! Simply amazing!

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12-23-2006, 11:11 PM
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if sturms out for too long im guessing youll see this kid a whole lot more

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While our coach and GM both love soft players and have stocked the entire team with them
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Chiarelli's first move to sign Zdeno Chara?

...unless you think Chara is soft.

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12-24-2006, 08:51 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Chiarelli's first move to sign Zdeno Chara?

...unless you think Chara is soft.
He thinks everyone is soft.

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Does anyone have a clip of Christov's goal last night? I want to watch it again.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Chiarelli's first move to sign Zdeno Chara?

...unless you think Chara is soft.
For all we know Chiarelli did NOT sign CHara!

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Does anyone have a clip of Christov's goal last night? I want to watch it again.
The great thing about this goal is that every time the B's play Mtl and Chistov is in the Mtl zone the D will back off and he will have a ton of room/options - or - they will run at him and probably since he is small will draw a penalty. Either of these scenarios are fine with me since the B's PP seems to be moving the puck like the Wings of old. Chistov will cause the same problems for the Habs D as the Habs small quick/skilled forwards have done to the B's D for years. I am really starting to like the look of this team.
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I've wanted to see Chistov play with Bergie for some time now.

For some reason, I feel like they are/would be very complimentary players on the ice. They both play bigger than they are... Both have puck skills... And I get the feeling that Chistov needs to play with talent in order to get the true talent out of him.

Sturm has been lighting it up lately, and that's good to see, so now's not the time to switch them up... BUT, if Sturm truly has no intent on signing here in the offseason (or Chia has no intent on trying for that matter), then I would like to see how Chistov fits into that slot.

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Chistov should be bulldozing his way around. I won't expect it too often on the road but at home he should exploit his strength a bit more.

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I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with DC on this one...

I got a very up-close view of Chistov's schooling of Komisarek, and it was quite impressive.

Chistov also did a great job disrupting Kovalev, a couple of nice backchecks prevented Kovalev from creating any offense for his line.

There's no way you can say Chistov isn't an adequate 4th liner, and we've seen when you put him with Bergy and Sturm/Boyes, he can create. Haha, I'd take Chistov over Primeau and Mowers anyday

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Chistov's goal was unreal. It was just a great effort. I didn't think he had the angle after he made the move. He sure prooved me wrong.

I just wish and hope he can and does start to progress and make the most of his ice time with efforts like that.

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12-24-2006, 04:45 PM
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any1 has a videeo of that goal?

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any1 has a videeo of that goal?
http://www.nhl.com/video/app?compone...p=8469458&sp=1

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I am going to disagree with DC

I think Chistov is a bit chippier than similar sized Russian whiz kids. I think he puts out a slightly better effort defensively too than a guy like Samsonov did.
Agreed.

Chistov has had to pay his lumps in the AHL to get back to the NHL. Let's also not forget injuries. Also, mysteriously, some players need ages to develop.

Chistov I think is one of those players. His 2nd goal of the season showed some good skill. He also hustles, which is a good sign.

No, he will probobly never be as good as Samsonov, but he can be a chippy 2nd line goal scorer. And what's wrong with that?

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Chistov deserve more ice time after the brilliant goal tonight. I would like to see them put him with savy and muzz since tenkrat has struggled a little latley
I thought so too!! He had some great moves making that goal and I thought he deserved to be out there more....He is gritty. We were right there when he scored and he looked so psyched to score!! We need that attitude because it's infectious!

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I hope he will get to play more than 7 mins a game. Give him 15 mins for 8-10 games and some PP time and see what he can do. If he tanks then bury him. He may prove to be a valuable player

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