I can't see why not. I would be shocked if he kept this up, but for certain he is one of the seasons early suprises. Everyone thought it would be the big 6.. instead it's Tanguay, Abby, and the Defence.
Not at all. Aside from wins, his stats are very pedestrian. 20th in GAA, 12th in save % (I excluded goalies with less than 10 games played). Let me ask you this: is Chris Osgood a Vezina candidate? His numbers are comparable or better.
If a 2.29 GAA and .919 SA are pedestrian we've officially reached the apex of the dead puck era in the NHL, or it may very well be the first sign of the apocalypse.
If a 2.29 GAA and .919 SA are pedestrian we've officially reached the apex of the dead puck era in the NHL, or it may very well be the first sign of the apocalypse.
I remember whe .335 and .875 were good numbers! :p
If a 2.29 GAA and .919 SA are pedestrian we've officially reached the apex of the dead puck era in the NHL, or it may very well be the first sign of the apocalypse.
Those numbers are in the middle third among starting goaltenders. Thus, pedestrian.
No, Aebischer's been 'solid', but nothing like 'good' or even 'great'.
He's yet to steal games for us this season (even though he's been better as of late). There are more than five goalies that should go in front of him at this stage....
Hmm, what happened to all those "all that matters is wins, baby!" posters? The ones justifying Brodeur's Vezina last year based on wins, even though he had less than stellar other stats?
Hmm, what happened to all those "all that matters is wins, baby!" posters? The ones justifying Brodeur's Vezina last year based on wins, even though he had less than stellar other stats?
I sense a double standard.
1) His GAA is better.
2) As a couple of Avs fans have stated, he hasn't stolen any games yet. He's winning, but he's not winning. Big difference.
3) The title of the thread was "based on statistics" and based on statistics, he isn't.
Hmm, what happened to all those "all that matters is wins, baby!" posters? The ones justifying Brodeur's Vezina last year based on wins, even though he had less than stellar other stats?
I sense a double standard.
If Aebischer finishes with a 2.02 GAA, 41 wins and nine shutouts in 73 games, and then no one gives him his due, cry "double standard" all you want. Brodeur's Vezina was overdue.
his stats so far are great, his play seems to be improving, is he going to keep it up? who knows.
is he a vezina candidate?
Sure...
...and so is Roberto Luongo (2.29 GAA, .931 save percentage), who has comparable numbers to Aebischer this season, save for wins. Are you saying the Vezina should simply go to the most successful goalie via wins and losses? If so, are you polishing it for Chokemanek yet?
...and so is Roberto Luongo (2.29 GAA, .931 save percentage), who has comparable numbers to Aebischer this season, save for wins. Are you saying the Vezina should simply go to the most successful goalie via wins and losses? If so, are you polishing it for Chokemanek yet?
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not saying anything at all, just asking a simple question.
btw marty is the hands down winner so far
and i dont see why cloutier can't be considered a candidate at this point in the season either
What is funny is that all those who complained about Aebischer before this season always pointed out that he had more losses than wins last season (while never discussing his GAA and Sv% since it was obvious losses was the "weak" stat for him last year). And now when he leads the NHL in wins that people are only talking about GAA and Sv%. Statistical cherry picking at its finest
As for the original topic. No. I don't think he has been even close to a Vezina calibre goalkeeer this season. He and his team have done well getting the wins they have considering the injury problems, but Aebischer hasn't shown much of an ability to steal games and they haven't met that tough opposition this far. He has to improve quite a bit to have a chance of hardware. But it is encouraging for him to lead the league in wins. He has not even been close to crashing and burning, like the most rabid Avs haters claimed he would.
2) As a couple of Avs fans have stated, he hasn't stolen any games yet. He's winning, but he's not winning. Big difference.
3) The title of the thread was "based on statistics" and based on statistics, he isn't.
1) Who cares? GAA and SP are irrelevant last year as Brodeur had numerous folks above him last year (according to the 'Just Win, Baby' Folks)
2) Ah, so those wins of his don't count. Impressive debating technique.
3) I see, Wins suddenly aren't statistics? Again, not according to the JWB folks, it was the most important stat last year.
It's still a double standard. The league leader in wins isn't even a candidate for the Vezina? Anybody who defended Brodeur last year should be defending Aebischer this year.
1) Who cares? GAA and SP are irrelevant last year as Brodeur had numerous folks above him last year (according to the 'Just Win, Baby' Folks)
2) Ah, so those wins of his don't count. Impressive debating technique.
3) I see, Wins suddenly aren't statistics? Again, not according to the JWB folks, it was the most important stat last year.
It's still a double standard. The league leader in wins isn't even a candidate for the Vezina? Anybody who defended Brodeur last year should be defending Aebischer this year.
The difference is that the Devils win/won because of defense and goaltending while the Avalanche win because they have the best collection of offensive talent in the game. That said, Aebischer has played very well, at least in the Avalanche games I saw. If he continues to have the numbers he has now and continues to win at the rate he does now he should be a Vezina candidate at the end of the year; however now is too early to hand out Vezinas.
Let me also add that that you anti Brodeur people should really drop the excessive whining. Brodeur is the best, he won the vezina last year, he will probably win it again this year, and there really isn't anything you can do about it. So please, stop the whining, it gets old.
