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01-08-2007, 09:51 PM
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Yes, it is a chance. Some they win, some they lose. I'm sure there are some players that they are confident they can convince to choose OHL over the NCAA, but there are no guarantees.

For example, Auffrey was drafted by Kitchener, and it took three years and some good fortune to get him to report.
Well said.

I am just going by memory here so be kind folks.

What some folks have missed here is that after the 1st round that year (Corey Syvret) the Knights did not get a pick in the 2nd or 3rd or 5th round. Then Gagner was chosen and then C.Crawford in the 4th if I had my draft right. Gagner went to the USHL and Crawford went to Wellington. So basically there was a pretty large hole made in that draft, with no assurances of anything. It was a BIG gamble

Same sort of thing with Kane. Drafted but no show for 2 years. It was never a sure thing to have him in London. Meanwhile other teams picked guys who actually played for them in the meanwhile.

In the 2004 draft year for kane London had no 2nd or 4th round picks. They had four 5th rounders with Kane and Montgomery both being selected that round So 2 years to get Kane and 2.5 years for Montgomery. One of the other 5th round picks was Matt Davis who was waived for off ice "issues". That year they chose Ferry and Harrison Reed before Kane. interesting list (see below)

Bottom line: As you said, anybody could draft these guys, but did not. It was a gamble especially since a lot of picks were missing in earlier rounds from trades. It is an even bigger gamble to choose these kids when you have so few high round picks.

Rnd. Overall No. Player Name Team Name Pos. Ht. Wt. Birthdate
1 20th 20 Steven Ferry Richmond Hill Stars LD 5.10 175 08/05/1988
3 47th 7 Harrison Reed York Simcoe Express RC 6.00 160 01/18/1988
5 83rd 3 Brandon Biggers Sarnia LW 6.00 170 08/21/1988
5 88th 8 Pat Kane Detroit Honeybaked 88's LC 5.09 135 11/19/1988
5 95th 15 Matt Davis Hamilton Jr. Bulldogs RW 5.11 175 10/06/1988
5 100th 20 Kevin Montgomery Syracuse LD 6.00 175 04/04/1988
6 120th 20 Jason Guy Whitby Wildcats G 6.01 165 07/19/1988
7 140th 20 Matt McCready Tecumseh RD 5.10 155 07/01/1987
9 161st 1 Brad Hurlock Lambton Jr. Sting LD 6.02 180 06/24/1988
10 195th 15 Scott Aarssen London Knights LD 5.11 195 05/10/1988
10 200th 20 Andrew Wilkins Ajax Pickering RD 5.10 145 07/25/1988
11 201st 1 Steve Mason Oakville G 6.02 170 05/29/1988
11 220th 20 Patrick Maroon St. Louis Blues 88's LD 6.01 180 06/01/1988
13 260th 20 Jody O'Neil Nepean Raiders G 5.11 160 03/31/1988
14 280th 20 Dave McGlade Rideau St. Lawrence LC 6.00 155 04/24/1988
15 300th 20 Corey Oliver Cumberland LW 5.11 180 07/29/1988

It helps a lot when you get good players in later rounds like Aarssen 10th round and Mason 11th.

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01-09-2007, 03:50 PM
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downie for parent?...lol...no that will not be happening...i hope

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01-09-2007, 04:06 PM
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downie for parent?...lol...no that will not be happening...i hope
The Downie deal has already been made and he's headed slightly further west.

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01-09-2007, 04:44 PM
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The Downie deal has already been made and he's headed slightly further west.

As far as i'm concerned you can add the "arch" back where it belongs beside "rival".

Now i'm positive I hate the Rangers

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01-09-2007, 04:48 PM
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As far as i'm concerned you can add the "arch" back where it belongs beside "rival".

Now i'm positive I hate the Rangers
That's good! The last couple of years Kitchener and Guelph have been a little too friendly, and it's just wrong! Here's to rediscovering old hatreds! Some of those games were a blast!

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01-09-2007, 05:06 PM
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Here's to rediscovering old hatreds! Some of those games were a blast!

Game 3 of the 2002 playoffs ... I was almost the one getting blasted.
That one was boarderline ugly between Kitchener and Guelph fans.

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01-09-2007, 09:07 PM
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Game 3 of the 2002 playoffs ... I was almost the one getting blasted.
That one was boarderline ugly between Kitchener and Guelph fans.
I don't like when fans get into it, but on the ice? Heck ya!

After tonight's game, the next game between these two ought to be fun. There were a couple of huge hits and Potruff tried everything in his power to get Pepe to go. I'm thinking Downie may be just the fuse to light the keg.

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01-09-2007, 09:11 PM
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yeah tonight was a good game. there needs to be someone to light a fire under the rangers *****...they haevnt played good...i think when Steve Downie rolls into town on Wednesday. that will be the spark they need...hopefully Parent or Oreskovic follow downie into town before wednesday at 6!

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01-09-2007, 09:20 PM
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hopefully Parent or Oreskovic follow downie into town before wednesday at 6
Oreskovic - I'm pretty sure he will be in Owen Sound by this time tomorrow.
Parent - Guelph will never trade with Kitchener. Never.

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01-09-2007, 09:23 PM
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Oreskovic - I'm pretty sure he will be in Owen Sound by this time tomorrow.
Parent - Guelph will never trade with Kitchener. Never.
I heard Phil was offered a deal to kitchener, and he said it was too far from home, and he is a brampton born kid. if he goes to OS instead of Kitchener.He doesnt have a brain in his head. Mem cup bound team. or a team fighting to get into the payoffs..i would go with the mem cup team

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01-10-2007, 06:04 PM
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...he was not traded despit everything that was said...man i am happy!!!!

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01-10-2007, 06:06 PM
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I'm pretty happy too. With the addition of Syvret, Ryan can help mentor the growing contingent of young defensemen for a few more months. And who knows, there's always the slightest chance he could return next year. It happened with Callahan.

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tlets hope so...i mean it would suck for him...but we'd love it...right!!

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