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Bure vs Neely

View Poll Results: Bure vs Neely
Neely 117 71.34%
Bure 47 28.66%
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01-03-2007, 06:00 AM
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Neely didn't have goal scoring 'prowess'? What exactly is 50 goals in 44 games then? Competence?

This same comparison has been done at least 2 or 3 times before, we're just rehashing the same old arguments.
Pav Bure could score 50 goals blindfolded. Lets face it, when he went 60 goals back to back in Vancouver he was playing with the likes of Ronning/Linden/Courtnall.....not exactly Oates and Bourque.

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01-04-2007, 06:35 AM
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Pav Bure could score 50 goals blindfolded. Lets face it, when he went 60 goals back to back in Vancouver he was playing with the likes of Ronning/Linden/Courtnall.....not exactly Oates and Bourque.
1st line RW- Bure, C- Linden/Ronning, LW- Odjick.
2nd line RW- Courtnall, C- Linden/Ronning, LW- Adams.

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01-04-2007, 08:05 AM
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I think if I had a poor or average team I'd go for Bure, because he could win games alone. If I had a good or great team I'd go for Neely, because he could do the small things that win games, as well as score goals.

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01-04-2007, 09:41 AM
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Bure was probably the better player. But I would take Neely on my team over him every day of the week. Neely was a huge winner. May not have won a Cup but look how he played in the playoffs and in big games. Neely is the stereotype of the perfect tough as nails hockey player that can score and fight and hit.

Bure was more exciting and probably sold more tickets, and had more talent and better skills, and of course he helped you win games but not like Neely.

Bure played hockey to score goals. Neely played hockey to win games.
I agree that Bure was the more talented player; I'm not so sure that he was more exciting to watch. Between his goal-scoring prowess and his predilection for putting opposing players on their fannies -- either by way of a thundering bodycheck or a devastating flurry of punches -- Neely was definitely a player who kept the fans on the edges of their seats. In those days. the Bruins perennially seemed to be playing in front of crowds that were either at full capacity or damned close to it, and Neely was undoubtedly a major reason why (though by no means the only reason, admittedly). Both Neely and Bure were plenty exciting to watch, but their styles were obviously quite different.

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01-04-2007, 09:46 AM
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No, really. I've never heard about him.

cam nelly use to play for the boston bruins

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01-04-2007, 11:05 AM
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01-04-2007, 10:29 PM
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Out of curiosity does anyone know how many points Bure had in the Rangers series?

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01-04-2007, 10:56 PM
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Didn't you do this poll last year? And didn't Neely win that one by a fairly convincing margin?

Neely was the better hockey player, the better teammate and the better person. Outside of Messier, nobody in the last 30 years has combined goal-scoring and physical play better than Cam Neely.
Agreed..... but I take Bure (not by much) just because of his other-worldly combination of speed and skill.... also an almost unmatched combination in the past 30 years (Lafleur and Ovechkin are close).

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01-04-2007, 11:05 PM
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Pavel Bure

Bure got injured tooo many times
Imo he would have easily been a hall of famer if he could have stayed healthy.

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01-04-2007, 11:59 PM
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Pavel Bure

Bure got injured tooo many times
Imo he would have easily been a hall of famer if he could have stayed healthy.
He still is nearly certain to make the HHOF.

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01-05-2007, 05:44 PM
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01-05-2007, 05:56 PM
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I think it would depend on team needs. Bure was more of a game breaker, whereas Neely was more well rounded.

Independent of team needs, I'd take Bure personally.

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01-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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01-06-2007, 08:04 PM
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Not a fair comparison based on the fact Neely was taken out at age 26. He was just hitting his prime as a goal scorer. The rest of his career he played on one leg, and the heart of a lion. Still got 50.

They were two distinctly different players. Bure was faster, more finese, better play maker.

But, the presense Neely had on the ice, and effect he had on opposing players while on the forecheck, I have not seen since. He made people make bad plays, bad decisions, and cough the puck up due to fear and intimidation. It sent chills up your spine to watch Neely. He was also a machine in the playoffs. Also, the only guy in his day to completely own Patrick Roy. He made him look like a goalie tutor.

How many players are the top goal scorer, hardest hitter, and best fighter on a team?

I'll take Neely any day over Bure.


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NEELY ina heart beat...better allaround player..

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Who would you rather have on your team?

For me I would take Neely. The only thing Bure has on Neely is goal scoring and I think it's closer than most people think. Neely also brought more to the table than Bure. He was a lot more physical than Bure. Neely could set the tone to a big game by fighting, making a big check or scoring a big goal. Furthermore, in a game seven playoff series I would rather have Neely than Bure. Neely is one of the best playoff performers ever.

Hits, fights, scores, makes plays, plays a decent defensive game, leadership, toughness....etc, etc all over BURE.

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01-06-2007, 08:15 PM
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Who is Neely ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PD2zKESoukc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qYSXNRjYa4

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01-06-2007, 08:33 PM
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Neely > Bure

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01-06-2007, 09:01 PM
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Hahaha, what the **** happened with the poll. Someone called his friends.

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Not a fair comparison based on the fact Neely was taken out at age 26. He was just hitting his prime as a goal scorer. The rest of his career he played on one leg, and the heart of a lion. Still got 50.
Pretty much exactly what happened to Bure aswell. Very fair comparison.

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01-06-2007, 09:15 PM
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Hahaha, what the **** happened with the poll. Someone called his friends.


Pretty much exactly what happened to Bure aswell. Very fair comparison.
How many near full seasons did Bure have after his knee injury? Neely never had a single one. And, it wasn't just his knee. Knee, thigh, and hip.

Anyway to each their own.

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01-06-2007, 09:23 PM
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How many near full seasons did Bure have after his knee injury? Neely never had a single one. And, it wasn't just his knee. Knee, thigh, and hip.

Anyway to each their own.
Bure had like 5 surgeries and 2 reconstructions on his knee so I think it's fair to say his knee was pretty messed up.

They both had to retire early due to knee injuries earlier in their careers.
They were both great goal scorers.
Cam played 726 NHL regular season games, Bure played 702.

How much more fair of a comparison can it get?

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Neely, he could hurt you on the scoreboard and he could... just plain hurt you. 50 in 44 games is insanity and he supplemented it a physical game.

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Don Cherry once suggested that if you had to take a player to Mars to show the Martians how hockey was to be played, Cam Neely would be the guy you'd take.

This isn't close, at the pace Neely was scoring at (.544 gpg; .956 ppg), if he played up until the lockout, 2004 (38 years old) he would of had an extra 8 years to pad those stats:

8 years, 50 games a year (still hurt) = 217 more goals, 382 more points.

Total 612 goals, 1076 points.

Neely is cut in the same mold as Howe. Due to a cheap shot, Neely was unable to stay healthy enough to play until he was 38. He was a bright star that burned out too soon, but the powers that be put him in the correct place... The Hockey Hall of Fame.

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01-06-2007, 09:38 PM
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Not even close as far as I'm concerned. Cam Neely did it all. The guy basically scored 50 goals in 44 games on one leg. I grew up on Cam Neely and he's the reason I love hockey as much as I do today. Not only is he a Hall of Famer for what he did on the ice, he's also a top notch human being off the ice.

Cam Neely > Pavel Bure

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Don Cherry once suggested that if you had to take a player to Mars to show the Martians how hockey was to be played, Cam Neely would be the guy you'd take.

This isn't close, at the pace Neely was scoring at (.544 gpg; .956 ppg), if he played up until the lockout, 2004 (38 years old) he would of had an extra 8 years to pad those stats:

8 years, 50 games a year (still hurt) = 217 more goals, 382 more points.

Total 612 goals, 1076 points.

Neely is cut in the same mold as Howe. Due to a cheap shot, Neely was unable to stay healthy enough to play until he was 38. He was a bright star that burned out too soon, but the powers that be put him in the correct place... The Hockey Hall of Fame.



if u wanna see neely at his best, check out youtube because that is the exact definition of how hockey should be played

-physical
-talented
-relentless
-being a leader
-not being an asswhole on or off the ice



for me its not even close, cam neely

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Hahaha, what the **** happened with the poll. Someone called his friends.
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