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01-05-2007, 03:41 PM
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Latendresse

We play the Habs tomorrow. Does anyone have regrets we did not draft Latendresse and instead have Cliche and Dupont? Comments please

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We play the Habs tomorrow. Does anyone have regrets we did not draft Latendresse and instead have Cliche and Dupont? Comments please
Latendresse was picked before both players, so it wasn't option....

Be that as it may, too erarly to tell.....ask me again in 5 years and we'll see...I like both CLiche ANd DUpont (really like him)and Latnedress looks like a player already..

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Coulda woulda shoulda.

Yeah, I wouldve taken him in the 2nd round, but at least we have Cliche who's no slouch(or is he a tremendous slouch?)

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I think if the Rangers had a shot at Latendresse they wouldve gotten him or someone else better. Didnt he go pretty high in the draft?

I know for sure he was drafted well before Cliche

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40-Sauer
45-Latendresse
56-Cliche
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If im correct we did have a shot at Latendresse, and we traded down.

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The Rangers had a chance to draft Latrendresse, and instead traded the pick for what turned out to be Cliche and Dupont (I think).

Montreal then took him with the pick after that.

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Hindsights, 20/20, but to ease your pain, don't we have a #1 pick in Hossa?

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The Rangers had a chance to draft Latrendresse, and instead traded the pick for what turned out to be Cliche and Dupont (I think).

Montreal then took him with the pick after that.
Ah, thanks...My bad (and apologies to bathgate) then..Still, no regrets here yet..Now, Montoya instead of Radulov and Jessiman, that's another story...

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Ah, thanks...My bad (and apologies to bathgate) then..Still, no regrets here yet..Now, Montoya instead of Radulov and Jessiman, that's another story...
I posted the draft spots above, we did have a shot at GL, but we went for Sauer. Fine by me as long as Sauer stays healthy.

And if Montoya keeps it up, he(or heaven forbid) Henke can be traded for a guy like Radulov.
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I posted the draft spots above, we did have a shot at GL, but we went for Sauer. Fine by me as long as Sauer stays healthy.

And if Montoya keeps it up, he(or heaven forbid) Henke can be traded for a guy like Radulov.
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Yes, Laten was indeed an option instead of Sauer...I'm just taking the guys word that there was a trade down after...No matter..Cliche and DUpont seem like decent players

And that's a big IF about Montoya but I would love to see it! Having both proven would give us a great trade chip

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I would rather have Cliche than Latendresse. I am not a fan of Lats game and I think he's trully overrated.

Cliche recalls Patrice Bergeron in almost EVERY aspect of his game. He has some really tremendous offensive skills, dazzling speed, and a near perfect defensive game.

He would've been a top 20 pick if he wasn't injured.

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You are all wrong. We had the 45th pick and traded it to montreal for their second round pick (which turned out to be cliche) and a third (which we didnt have and turned out to be dupont) with the 45th pick that we traded to them they selected Latendresse, who I might add, a lot of people were saying was overrated, bla bla bla with slow feet, bad skating bla bla bla, his stats were padded in the Q, bla bla bla and now all these Einsteins are saying we should have taken him.


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You are all wrong. We had the 45th pick and traded it to montreal for their second round pick (which turned out to be cliche) and a third (which we didnt have and turned out to be dupont) with the 45th pick that we traded to them they selected Latendresse, who I might add, a lot of people were saying was overrated, bla bla bla with slow feet, bad skating bla bla bla, his stats were padded in the Q, bla bla bla and now all these Einsteins are saying we should have taken him.

He IS a slow, bad skater. He only has 17 points so far in the NHL. It's not like he's setting the world on fire. IIRC, Montreal fans were even bashing the fact that they put him on the top line since they didn't think he warranted it yet.

The dude is not that good.

Cliche > Latendresse. Said so at the time of the draft, still say so now.

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Oh god you are lucky to not have drafted that worthless *****.

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I can't really complain considering the guys we got and the time period they were taken.

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We play the Habs tomorrow. Does anyone have regrets we did not draft Latendresse and instead have Cliche and Dupont? Comments please
I wanted him on draft day and was amazed that he did not get picked.

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He IS a slow, bad skater. He only has 17 points so far in the NHL. It's not like he's setting the world on fire. If I recall correctly, Montreal fans were even bashing the fact that they put him on the top line since they didn't think he warranted it yet.

The dude is not that good.

Cliche > Latendresse. Said so at the time of the draft, still say so now.
he isn't fast, that's a fact... but he's far from being a bad skater. you have to take into consideration that he's only 19 and he keeps improving every game! he has 18 pts in 40 games, but you have to know that he was still pointless in his first 13 games... so that gives him 18pts in his last 27 games. on top of that, he plays around 9-10min/game on the fourth line.

he is second for hits (behind Komisarek) on the team.

while on the first line, he had a PPG (around 12 games) and was second in pts for the rookies behind Malkin for the month of December.

is he overrated? NO... do Montreal fans think he didn't deserve to be on the first line? no again... in fact, most of the fans think he deserves to be on the first line instead of Ryder... but that's a whole different story. for once, Montreal might have the power forward they always wanted. he's big, he's skilled and he gets the job done. you were right on one thing tho... he has to improve his skating.

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I watched Cliche in the World Juniors I came away very impressed with him. He played very solid defensive game...he killed alot of penalties and played against teams top lines. With his junior team in Lewiston, ME, he is not only the team captain but the team leader who is leading one of the top teams in the Quebec Major Junior. I would like to think that him and the other 3 playing in the Gold Medal Game will all have a very bright future with the Rangers.

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I think your right.

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do I regret it? yes and no.

on one hand, the question marks that surrounded Lats concerned the attribute that I value most when it comes to player evaluation. I will never fault a team for passing on a player because they have concerns about his foot speed.

at the same time, Lats is playing and producing in the NHL as a 19 year old, and that's impressive. Cliche and Dupont both look promising, but as of right now they're doing it in Juniors and Lats is doing it at the highest level, this cannot be overlooked.

And Latendresse probably has a higher ceiling than either of Cliche or Dupont.

I cannot fault the Rangers for passing on Latendresse considering the questions that existed over his skating. The last thing you want to do is waste a 2nd round pick on a player that turns into a prelockout dinosaur. I probably would have passed on him too. But as of right now Latendresse is winning the debate, whether he wins it long term we won't know for several years.

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well we also had a shot at Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Steve Bernier, Zach Parise, Eric Fehr ,Ryan Getzlaf, Brent Burns D, Mark Stuart, Marc-Antoine Pouliot, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Anthony Stewart, Corey Perry, Patrick Eaves and picked the wonderful Hugh Jessiman who aint even scoring at the AHL level great scouts we have. I would like to hear Sather's excuse for picking Jessiman. Maybe he knew their family from the 80s

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well we also had a shot at Dustin Brown, Brent Seabrook, Steve Bernier, Zach Parise, Eric Fehr ,Ryan Getzlaf, Brent Burns D, Mark Stuart, Marc-Antoine Pouliot, Ryan Kesler, Mike Richards, Anthony Stewart, Corey Perry, Patrick Eaves and picked the wonderful Hugh Jessiman who aint even scoring at the AHL level great scouts we have. I would like to hear Sather's excuse for picking Jessiman. Maybe he knew their family from the 80s
What exactly does any of this have to do with Latendresse? As for the topic on hand, I like both Cliche and Dupont, (especially Dupont...I was thrilled when they took this kid, since I think he's got some Adam Graves in him), and think both will be important parts of the Rangers' future. Plus,we all know Latendresse would still be in juniors if he was in the Rangers' system, the same place both Cliche and Dupont currently are. I think Cliche has the ability to be a quality 2nd line player in this league, and Dupont will be at least a solid 3rd liner. I like the deal even more today than I did on draft day.


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Rumors have it that Latendresse has the "Quebec" bonus and that if he weren't quebecer, he'd have a harder time sticking with the habs... just what I've heared...

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We play the Habs tomorrow. Does anyone have regrets we did not draft Latendresse and instead have Cliche and Dupont? Comments please
Yes, and not that either of the 3 has proved anything, but I still wanted Latendresse, especially in the 2nd round. The guy was a steal IMO.

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