I assume this is a knock on Dipietro, and while this is off topic I find it important to note that nobody has any business knocking Dipietro this year. He's had a very good season by anyone's standards.
It's funny seeing people knock Dipietro all the time because it shows they have no clue what they are talking about. He's a top 10 goalie now, even though nobody notices what happens on Long Island.
Actually, didn't mean to knock on DP. Just had to pick someone with better stats than Luongo, yet not in the echelon of a Brodeur, etc.
DiPietro's a good goalie. A lot of people make fun of him because of the hilarious contract that Wang handed to him.
It's important to note that Luongo's critics are ALL fans with some type of agenda.
You'll never find ONE SINGLE player or coach in this league that says Luongo is an easy goalie to beat - on or off the record.
So while *fans* who have probably never played a competitive game of hockey in their lives can come up with theories and produce stats that cast a dim light on Luongo, everyone in the game fears facing him in a must win situation. He's a tough, tough guy to score on and the players know it. That's all that really matters.
Best post in this thread.
For stats junkies, look at how the guys at Hockey Analytics have consistently had Luongo at or near the top for their goaltenders when using adjusted Save Percentages. They use some pretty intense statistical analysis of stats to get adjusted stats based on shot quality.
Indeed. With the amount of venom luongo receives these days, you'd think dan cloutier was better. November is the month that brought down luongo's stats. That's the month when we lost willie mitchell to a concussion and sami salo to injury. We were dressing ahl defensemen that month.
His stats by month.
Oct - 2.14 GAA .923 SV%
Nov - 2.68 GAA .896 SV%
Dec - 2.68 GAA .912 SV% Jan - 1.92 GAA .940 SV%
Wow! January is his best month by far, but another goalie has better numbers this month.
I think the best question is why the heck there's ALWAYS a thread about Luongo in this forum. What's the deal about discussing this guy to death and then some?
Is it just the fact that a huge number of posters have a crush for him and a huge number of posters want to see him some place dark? So what if he starts some silly All Star game, it's a popularity contest, not a skill contest. Kind of like prom queen in high school.
I love this thread. I love how all the Luongo lovers are using the same arguments they used to use to discredit Brodeur and now are using them in FAVOR of Luongo's play.
In my opinion the guy has 24 wins and doesn't have the glossy stats he had in Florida. But he is still WINNING. Now what he does in the playoffs has yet to be seen and that will determine how he is rated.
You should see some of the goals they have to resort to, in order to score on Luongo.
Some of them include a double deflection off Bieksa's stick and Mitchell's shoulder into the top corner; pad save by Luongo, deflecting off Ohlund's skate and in (twice); two opposing forwards in the crease, puck going in off a leg; etc. It seemed like that was the only way the other team scored on him in October.
and something must be said for the fact that he has 24 wins on a bad offensive team. But he has mediocre statistics for a goaltender as lauded as him, 10th in the league in GAA, and 11th in Save percentage.
One very common argument I hear for defending him is that he has terrible goal support in Vancouver, which is obviously true. But I'd like to know how that is relevant to his GAA being higher than HOF goalies like Peter Budaj and Save Percentage being lower than Rick Dipietro.
Luongo faces the 6th least shots in the NHL per game, yet still has these stats. He has wins, which are very impressive due to his low goal support, but his individual stats, frankly, stink for a guy who's the highest paid goaltender in the league.
If wins alone made a goaltender great, Marty Turco would have been the 3rd best goaltender in the league last year, despite his mediocre 2.55 GAA and .898 Save percentage.
Don't get me wrong, because he's a fantastic goaltender and may have the most amount of plain talent among NHL goalies, but just how does his goal support have anything to do with his mediocre stats?
Stats isn't everything. Vancouver is the 4th lowest scoring team in the whole league, yet they are first place. This alone tells you something is going right at Roberto's end of the ice.