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Crosby will be...

View Poll Results: How good Crosby will be in NHL?
As good as Gretzky or Lemieux. 36 15.93%
A superstar like Jarg, Forsberg (not like the 66 or 99) 137 60.62%
A good points producer like Naslund, Mogilny ect. 41 18.14%
an average player. 12 5.31%
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12-09-2003, 02:06 AM
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Crosby will be... .
..17 years old in 9 months. That's my final answer.

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12-09-2003, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by DieHard
Pat Falloon, Alexander Daigle, Jason Spezza, Sidney Crosby...I think you'll see the pattern here...
Each player is progressively better, starting with bust, up to superstar?

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12-09-2003, 04:25 AM
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I was thinking more of a massive overhyped junior star who broke all records in juniors, was branded as The Next One, was drafted very high, was expected to be the franchise player of the team etc.

So far all have failed...
That was my first guess, but then i thought, it couldnt be, because last i checked Spezza is only 20, having a good start to his career, and could very well end up as a 'franchise player'. But nice try.

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12-09-2003, 01:31 PM
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Ok, who else chose "average" like me? C'mon, 3 more of you out there!
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12-09-2003, 02:20 PM
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I guess I'm just trying to tell you people that I'm sick & tired of all these Crosby threads popping up like mushrooms after rain whenever he scores a goal or blows a pimple.
Poor DieHard, this is just a start. Poeple gonna talk about him more and more...

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12-09-2003, 02:27 PM
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That was my first guess, but then i thought, it couldnt be, because last i checked Spezza is only 20, having a good start to his career, and could very well end up as a 'franchise player'. But nice try.
Joe Thornton was regarded as a "bust" the first couple years of his career too. But was only 18 and had to learn the NHL game. Would anyone call Joe a bust now??? Thornton is the cornerstone of the Bruins franchise, just like this kid will someday be. (although I think Ovechkin will be better )

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12-09-2003, 03:12 PM
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Poor choice of words, what I meant was that "so far they haven't achieved anything".

Pat Falloon was massively hyped - he was going to be the next one etc. Alexander Daigle was massively hyped - 1st overall pick who was going to break Gretzky's records etc.
Jason Spezza was massively hyped - so far he hasn't shown anything that he will be even a so-called superstar, let alone a megastar like Gretzky or Lemieux.

My point? Every 3-4 years there will be a new 'Falloon' or 'Daigle' who's supposedly the best player anyone has ever seen and who's going to be The Next One etc after dominating in the junior leagues. Crosby is playing against other JUNIORS who are in various stages on the long road to adulthood, only when he's playing against grown men his true abilities will be seen. At this point there's ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER showing he's any different compared to Falloon or Daigle.

Note: I'm not saying that Crosby won't be good or even great, he could very well become a star player in the NHL. But to claim he will be as good or god forbid even better than Gretzky is nothing short of absurd stupidity & ignorance.

I guess I'm just trying to tell you people that I'm sick & tired of all these Crosby threads popping up like mushrooms after rain whenever he scores a goal or blows a pimple.
At this point there's ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER showing he's any different compared to Gretzky or Lemieux. Unless you have a time machine I don't know about; YOU ARE JUST AS IGNORANT ABOUT THE FUTURE AS THE REST OF US MORTALS!

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I chose Naslund esqu.

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Poor choice of words, what I meant was that "so far they haven't achieved anything".

Pat Falloon was massively hyped - he was going to be the next one etc. Alexander Daigle was massively hyped - 1st overall pick who was going to break Gretzky's records etc.
Jason Spezza was massively hyped - so far he hasn't shown anything that he will be even a so-called superstar, let alone a megastar like Gretzky or Lemieux.

My point? Every 3-4 years there will be a new 'Falloon' or 'Daigle' who's supposedly the best player anyone has ever seen and who's going to be The Next One etc after dominating in the junior leagues. Crosby is playing against other JUNIORS who are in various stages on the long road to adulthood, only when he's playing against grown men his true abilities will be seen. At this point there's ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER showing he's any different compared to Falloon or Daigle.

Note: I'm not saying that Crosby won't be good or even great, he could very well become a star player in the NHL. But to claim he will be as good or god forbid even better than Gretzky is nothing short of absurd stupidity & ignorance.

I guess I'm just trying to tell you people that I'm sick & tired of all these Crosby threads popping up like mushrooms after rain whenever he scores a goal or blows a pimple.
Why wouldn't he be compared to Gretzky? At this point he is dominating the Q as a 16 year old. This has never been done before. In any of the major junior leagues. The Great One didn't even lead the OHL in scoring at age 16 let alone dominate like Crosby. Is it that far of stretch to talk about the possibilities of what he might do?

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12-09-2003, 11:50 PM
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At this point there's ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER showing he's any different compared to Gretzky or Lemieux. Unless you have a time machine I don't know about; YOU ARE JUST AS IGNORANT ABOUT THE FUTURE AS THE REST OF US MORTALS!
MORTAL, WHO DARE CALLS THE POSTERS OF THE HFBOARDS MORTAL. BANISHED FROM THESE BOARDS YOU ARE. NOW BE GONE...BE GOOONEEE!!!

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What is up with this topic Naslund aint a superstar ? Last time I heard people compare him to one of the best in the league or just as good as naslund ! Stupid topic but I say he will be a superstar !

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03-05-2004, 04:08 PM
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Like Jagr or Forsberg or Sakic

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A superstar like Jarg, Forsberg (not like the 66 or 99)

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Crosby will be 17 next year...

Daigle was tearing it up at this time too. Way too early to tell.
Daigle

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Until I see another 66 or 99 I wouldn't perdict another Gretzky or Lemieux. Today's game is too different.

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I have yet to see any of our current superstars to show the vision and pure skill that lemieux and gretzky have shown. It's not just a result of the era they played in...they were really that good.

'96 Lemieux has 161 pts...Forsberg, Sakic, both around 120.

As good as these current superstars are...the naslunds, sakics, forsbergs, kovalchuks, they just don't compare to lemieux or gretz.

HOCKEY SENSE is the big difference. Gretzky, Lemieux, or Orr saw the game on a different level. It's the truth. Has nothing to do with eras.

For the Crosby question...well all we can do is hope that we have another one of those "higher level" players. It is always a treat to watch someone who is so much better than everyone else.

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I bit the bullet and said he'll be the next giga star . . . normally I would go with a more conservative view on someone who is only 16 or 17 (which in Crosby's case would likely be a Jagr or Forsberg type player), but it's not too often The Great One himself compares a young guy to himself. Actually, this is the only time if memory serves . . . because of that I had to vote 66/99.

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Where's the option for "who gives a damn?"
That's the option of not posting in the thread. You should have exercised that option.

I think that the big differences in great players and less great or just good players is partly the desire. Desire to win, to improve, generally, to do well. Another key thing is health. Hockey sense is also very important. A lot of people can dominate in juniors with their speed and (sometimes it's just speed) not succeed in the slightest at the NHL or sometimes even the AHL level.


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Too early to say. He might end up being an avarage player or a great superstar.

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He will be a superstar for sure. He may not put up Gretzky like numbers but I think he will be as dominent as the Great One.

definitely a superstar.

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I might say super star
but hows he able to take physical play?
Will this praise go to his head and prevent him from producing?
I'll have to see his first game before I decide but right now I say superstar.

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