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01-12-2007, 11:33 PM
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Kopitar as Captain??

Just wanted to gauge what some fans feel is the possibility of Kopitar becoming captain of the kings. Do you feel he has the POTENTIAL to one day be captain? Obviously not right away, but possibly in the next 3-4 years, maybe? He is often considered the best player on the ice for the Kings. He seems to have great hockey sense, I just don't know about the leadership skills.

I know it's his first year, and we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves, I just wanted to find out what other kings fans feel his (leadership) POTENTIAL is.

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i dont see why not give it too him now.... he is playin like the captian maybe we need the new blood .....

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01-13-2007, 12:16 AM
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After norstrom leaves, or retires Kopitar will be the captain

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Kid has so much class. Respect for the game and the people that play it. He should be captain now. But he wont I say in 3 or 4 years he will be the Captain with a new 5 year contract

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Kopitar needs to be on the team longer and prove that he can lead before he should be a candidate for the captaincy. Being a good player, a fan favorite and a humble person isn't enough. Like with a manager position in a company, showing an aptitude for the job is important; just being a good and liked person doesn't cut it. Kopitar may or may not show an aptitude for being captain. There's no way of knowing right now and only time will tell.

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Kid has so much class. Respect for the game and the people that play it. He should be captain now. But he wont I say in 3 or 4 years he will be the Captain with a new 5 year contract
u mean his 10 year contract extention

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I think Cammy would make a good captain.

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He shouldn't captain for at least 5 years. That's too much to put on such a young player. There's a lot of pressure that comes with being a captain that we don't need him to have.

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Isn't Crosby already the Pens captain?

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In response to the initial post & question, the answer depends on what type of captain the Kings want. Most talented? Toughest? Most characteristic of the organization's purported model of work ethic (see Norstrom)? Off ice leader of the pack? The most recognizable face of the franchise (Messier & Yzerman in their later years)?

Look at the captains around the league and you will find that they are what their organization wants as an example to the rest, whether that example is what the captain IS, what the captain WAS or what the captain WILL BE.

If I analyze Kopitar to date, I find the following: He is the most talented player on the ice. He is at minimum one of the toughest (he can hit and he can take a hit). His work ethic is marvelous (don't just look at his minutes, but look at what he does with those minutes). Judging by his interviews and his statements, the odds are good that he will develop into the off ice leader eventually unless Jack Johnson takes on that role or we acquire another player who fits that mold. Finally, the most recognizable face of the franchise - the mother of all non brainers - he is arguably already that and will only become more so.

I conclude that Anze Kopitar is the future captain of this team because he most exemplifies EACH of the qualities that teams look for. He is and will be the rock upon which this franchise is being built. That puts him in the same category as an Yzerman although the comparison on the intangibles in some respects is premature but on having sufficient talent and toughness for the captaincy is clear.

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He shouldn't captain for at least 5 years. That's too much to put on such a young player. There's a lot of pressure that comes with being a captain that we don't need him to have.
Agreed that it is much too early to name him a captain. That is something you need to earn not only on the ice but at practice and in the locker room.

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Um... did they just say that Conroy passed to TK and that the King's goalie was Legace?

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Um... did they just say that Conroy passed to TK and that the King's goalie was Legace?
Ah yes, the ever so fun "post in the wrong thread"

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lol, i thought i was in the GDT

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Agreed that it is much too early to name him a captain. That is something you need to earn not only on the ice but at practice and in the locker room.
I disagree with him being too young. After Nortstrom is traded, I would like to see Kopitar with the "C". When a player like Blake talks about how much the team depends on Kopitar. He plays in every sitaution and makes everyone around him better. I just don't see anyone looking up to Norstrom anymore.

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I just don't see anyone looking up to Norstrom anymore.
I believe you don't see it. Neither do I. However, that's not because it isn't happening. It's because you and I are not in the locker room.

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No, Crosby is not the captain of the Pens yet. I would be pretty surprised if he wasn't NEXT season though.

If Norstrom were to get dealt this deadline or offseason, the prime candidates for captaincy should be:

(1) Visnovsky
(2) Blake
(3) Conroy

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I have to really disagree there, Venom. Visnovsky would be an awful choice, IMO. He's the quiet type, even quieter than Norstrom. The captain needs to talk to the refs throughout the game, be available for the media after games and stand up in the dressing room to address the team. From everything that I know of Lubomir, that's the complete opposite.

If Norstrom were to be traded this season or next, I think that the captaincy would, absolutely, have to go to Blake. He's had it before and the team looks to him for leadership.

BTW, along the same lines, and assuming that he signs a multi-year deal this Summer, I think that it might be appropriate for Cammalleri to become an alternate captain next season. He was one for Michigan and has started to take on a more vocal role with the Kings. By next season, he should be at the point where he'll command enough respect to wear the 'A'. It'd also just be nice to start working the team's younger players into leadership roles, rather than relying on the over-35 crowd, as they are now.

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blake will become the captain if norstrom steps down

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Just wanted to gauge what some fans feel is the possibility of Kopitar becoming captain of the kings. Do you feel he has the POTENTIAL to one day be captain? Obviously not right away, but possibly in the next 3-4 years, maybe? He is often considered the best player on the ice for the Kings. He seems to have great hockey sense, I just don't know about the leadership skills.

I know it's his first year, and we shouldn't get too ahead of ourselves, I just wanted to find out what other kings fans feel his (leadership) POTENTIAL is.
This is one of the dumbest questions I have heard here in a while.

He's 19. HE is the one who needs a leader to follow. He's hardly an off-ice leader.

There is more to being a captain than just being the best player on your team. Even in 3 years, he'll still be learning the nuances of the NHL game.

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He's 19. HE is the one who needs a leader to follow. He's hardly an off-ice leader.
Why?? Because of his age?? Not sure if you were watching the game today on NBC, but they showed a clip of Rob Blake commenting on Kopitar. Blake was mentioning how the KINGS LOOK TO HIM, when they need something to happen, (get the puck up ice, out of the zone, etc). Kopitar is becoming a leader on this team, by his play on the ice. If that translates to being a captain in the future, great. I was just asking what people think.

I don't know anything about his off-ice behavior so I can't comment on that.


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There is more to being a captain than just being the best player on your team. Even in 3 years, he'll still be learning the nuances of the NHL game.
I agree, but Kopitar does more then just be the best player on the team. IMO. What does learning the nuances of the game have to do with being Captain?

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This is one of the dumbest questions I have heard here in a while.

He's 19. HE is the one who needs a leader to follow. He's hardly an off-ice leader.

There is more to being a captain than just being the best player on your team. Even in 3 years, he'll still be learning the nuances of the NHL game.
What "nuances" are you referring to that Kopitar will still be learning in 3 years? Name off some of these nuances.

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He shouldn't captain for at least 5 years. That's too much to put on such a young player. There's a lot of pressure that comes with being a captain that we don't need him to have.
Concur - there's no reason to slap that pressure on Kopitar in the near future. The kid's only 19 - give hime a few more years to develop and grow. I do believe that at some point we will see Captain Kopitar - but hopefully not for a few more years

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Why?? Because of his age?? Not sure if you were watching the game today on NBC, but they showed a clip of Rob Blake commenting on Kopitar. Blake was mentioning how the KINGS LOOK TO HIM, when they need something to happen, (get the puck up ice, out of the zone, etc). Kopitar is becoming a leader on this team, by his play on the ice. If that translates to being a captain in the future, great. I was just asking what people think.
Again, play on the ice is NOT the reason why players are named captain.

Sure, the Kings "look to him" to score, because he's their top line scorer. I think you're reading into Blake's quote too much. I highly doubt Blake is talking about Kopitar being his team leader.

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I don't know anything about his off-ice behavior so I can't comment on that.
For starters, he can't join the team when they go out for a drink. lol

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I agree, but Kopitar does more then just be the best player on the team. IMO.
Like what?

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What "nuances" are you referring to that Kopitar will still be learning in 3 years? Name off some of these nuances.
You aren't implying that, 3 years from now, he'll have nothing more to learn, are you? If that were the case, he'd plateau at 22 and never improve beyond that age. Is that really what you're suggesting? No, of course it's not, but people need to realize (before they criticize others) that there's no improvement without learning. Having room for improvement (especially when you're as good as Kopitar is, already) is a good thing, not a bad one.

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