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The reason we'll never win a cup...

The Oil have tuned over their roster too much over the peast few seasons and have never kept a core together long enough for anything "real" to be developed. I mostly put this up for nostalgia purposes, but if you sift through it real quick, you can see that the only core we really saved is Smith, Smyth, Laraque, Salo and Moreau. The constant turnover of roster guys and unhealthy amount of guys I dont even remember sickens me. look at this.

Edmonton Oilers Final 1996-97 Stats

POS NO. PLAYER GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG --- ---- ------------------------ --- --- --- --- ---- --- -- -- -- -- --- ----- C 39 DOUG WEIGHT 80 21 61 82 1 80 4 0 2 0 235 8.9 L 94 RYAN SMYTH 82 39 22 61 7- 76 20 0 4 0 265 14.7 L 51 ANDREI KOVALENKO 74 32 27 59 5- 81 14 0 2 0 163 19.6 C 7 JASON ARNOTT 67 19 38 57 21- 92 10 1 2 1 248 7.7 R 21 MARIUSZ CZERKAWSKI 76 26 21 47 0 16 4 0 3 0 182 14.3 R 16 KELLY BUCHBERGER 81 8 30 38 4 159 0 0 3 0 78 10.3 C 26 TODD MARCHANT 79 14 19 33 11 44 0 4 3 0 202 6.9 R 25 *MIKE GRIER 79 15 17 32 7 45 4 0 2 0 89 16.9 D 2 BORIS MIRONOV 55 6 26 32 2 85 2 0 1 0 147 4.1 L 17 *REM MURRAY 82 11 20 31 9 16 1 0 2 0 85 12.9 L 37 DEAN MCAMMOND 57 12 17 29 15- 28 4 0 6 0 106 11.3 L 14 *MATS LINDGREN 69 11 14 25 7- 12 2 3 1 0 71 15.5 D 23 *DANIEL MCGILLIS 73 6 16 22 2 52 2 1 2 0 139 4.3 D 55 *DREW BANNISTER 65 4 14 18 23- 44 1 0 0 0 59 6.8 D 24 BRYAN MARCHMENT 71 3 13 16 13 132 1 0 0 0 89 3.4 R 85 PETR KLIMA 33 2 12 14 12- 12 0 0 0 0 55 3.6 D 4 KEVIN LOWE 64 1 13 14 1- 50 0 0 0 0 46 2.2 D 22 LUKE RICHARDSON 82 1 11 12 9 91 0 0 0 0 67 1.5 L 18 *BARRIE MOORE 35 2 6 8 1 18 1 0 0 0 43 4.7 D 5 *GREG DE VRIES 37 0 4 4 2- 52 0 0 0 0 31 .0 L 29 LOUIE DEBRUSK 32 2 0 2 6- 94 0 0 0 0 10 20.0 C 9 *RALPH INTRANUOVO 8 1 1 2 1- 0 0 0 0 0 6 16.7 G 31 CURTIS JOSEPH 72 0 2 2 0 20 0 0 0 0 0 .0 C 10 *STEVE KELLY 8 1 0 1 1- 6 0 0 1 0 6 16.7 D 34 DONALD DUFRESNE 22 0 1 1 1- 15 0 0 0 0 10 .0 D 35 *CRAIG MILLAR 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 1 .0 D 8 *SEAN BROWN 5 0 0 0 1- 4 0 0 0 0 2 .0 C 12 JESSE BELANGER 6 0 0 0 3- 0 0 0 0 0 8 .0 L 15 *JOE HULBIG 6 0 0 0 1- 0 0 0 0 0 4 .0 G 30 BOB ESSENSA 19 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 .0 GOALIES 30 BOB ESSENSA 19 879 2.80 4 8 0 3 1 41 406 .899 0 0 4 32 31 CURTIS JOSEPH 72 4089 2.93 32 29 9 3 6 200 2144 .907 0 2 2097-98
PLAYER TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

DOUG WEIGHT EDM 79 26 44 70 4 69 8 0 4 0 204 12.7
DEAN MCAMMOND EDM 77 19 31 50 7 46 7 0 3 0 128 14.8
BORIS MIRONOV EDM 81 16 30 46 7- 100 10 1 1 1 203 7.9
JANNE NIINIMAA EDM 11 1 8 9 7 6 1 0 0 0 19 5.3
PHI 66 3 30 33 9 56 1 0 1 0 114 2.6
TOTAL 77 4 38 42 16 62 2 0 1 0 133 3.0
ROMAN HAMRLIK EDM 41 6 20 26 2 48 4 1 3 0 112 5.4
TAM 37 3 12 15 17- 22 1 0 0 0 84 3.6
TOTAL 78 9 32 41 15- 70 5 1 3 0 196 4.6
BILL GUERIN EDM 40 13 16 29 1 80 8 0 2 0 131 9.9
NJD 19 5 5 10 0 13 1 0 2 0 48 10.4
TOTAL 59 18 21 39 1 93 9 0 4 0 179 10.1
TODD MARCHANT EDM 76 14 22 36 10 71 2 1 3 0 184 7.6
RYAN SMYTH EDM 65 20 13 33 24- 44 10 0 2 2 206 9.7
TONY HRKAC EDM 36 8 11 19 2 10 3 0 1 0 43 18.6
DAL 13 5 3 8 0 0 3 0 0 0 14 35.7
TOTAL 49 13 14 27 2 10 6 0 1 0 57 22.8
MATS LINDGREN EDM 82 13 13 26 0 42 1 3 3 0 131 9.9
SCOTT FRASER EDM 29 12 11 23 6 6 6 0 2 0 62 19.4
ANDREI KOVALENKO EDM 59 6 17 23 12- 28 1 0 2 1 89 6.7
KELLY BUCHBERGER EDM 81 6 16 22 9- 122 1 1 1 0 86 7.0
VALERI ZELEPUKIN EDM 33 2 10 12 1- 55 0 0 0 0 46 4.3
NJD 35 2 8 10 3 30 0 0 0 0 55 3.6
TOTAL 68 4 18 22 2 85 0 0 0 0 101 4.0
REM MURRAY EDM 61 9 9 18 10- 39 2 2 0 0 60 15.0
MIKE GRIER EDM 66 9 6 15 3- 73 1 0 1 0 90 10.0
GREG DEVRIES EDM 65 7 4 11 14- 80 1 0 0 0 52 13.5
BOBBY DOLLAS EDM 30 2 5 7 6 22 0 0 0 0 27 7.4
ANA 22 0 1 1 11- 27 0 0 0 0 11 0.0
TOTAL 52 2 6 8 5- 49 0 0 0 0 38 5.3
DRAKE BEREHOWSKY EDM 67 1 6 7 3 169 0 0 1 0 57 1.8
BOYD DEVEREAUX EDM 38 1 4 5 5- 6 0 0 0 0 28 3.6
CRAIG MILLAR EDM 11 4 0 4 3- 8 1 0 0 0 10 40.0
JOE HULBIG EDM 17 2 2 4 0 2 0 0 1 0 8 25.0
FRANK MUSIL EDM 17 1 2 3 1 8 0 1 1 0 8 12.5
MIKE WATT EDM 14 1 2 3 4- 4 0 0 1 0 14 7.1
CURTIS JOSEPH EDM 71 0 2 2 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
SEAN BROWN EDM 18 0 1 1 1- 43 0 0 0 0 9 0.0
BILL HUARD EDM 30 0 1 1 6- 72 0 0 0 0 12 0.0
LADISLAV BENYSEK EDM 2 0 0 0 2- 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
DENNIS BONVIE EDM 4 0 0 0 0 27 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
JASON BOWEN EDM 4 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 3 0.0
BOB ESSENSA EDM 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
DOUG FRIEDMAN EDM 16 0 0 0 0 20 0 0 0 0 8 0.0
KEVIN LOWE EDM 7 0 0 0 4- 22 0 0 0 0 5 0.0
GEORGES LARAQUE EDM 11 0 0 0 4- 54 0 0 0 0 4 0.0
TERRAN SANDWITH EDM 8 0 0 0 4- 6 0 0 0 0 4 0.0

98-99

PLAYER TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

BILL GUERIN EDM 80 30 34 64 8 133 13 0 2 1 261 11.5
JOSEF BERANEK EDM 66 19 30 49 8 23 7 0 2 0 160 11.9
MIKE GRIER EDM 82 20 24 44 7 54 3 2 1 0 143 14.0
PAT FALLOON EDM 82 17 23 40 2- 20 8 0 2 0 152 11.2
REM MURRAY EDM 78 21 18 39 6 20 4 1 4 1 116 18.1
DOUG WEIGHT EDM 43 6 31 37 6- 12 1 0 0 1 79 7.6
TODD MARCHANT EDM 82 14 22 36 3 65 3 1 2 0 183 7.7
ALEXANDER SELIVANOV EDM 29 8 6 14 0 24 1 0 1 0 57 14.0
TAM 43 6 13 19 9- 18 1 0 0 0 120 5.0
TOTAL 72 14 19 33 9- 42 2 0 1 0 177 7.9
RYAN SMYTH EDM 71 13 19 32 0 62 6 0 2 2 161 8.1
ROMAN HAMRLIK EDM 75 8 24 32 17 72 3 0 0 0 172 4.7
CHAD KILGER EDM 13 1 1 2 3- 4 0 0 0 0 13 7.7
CHI 64 14 11 25 1- 30 2 1 1 1 68 20.6
TOTAL 77 15 12 27 4- 34 2 1 1 1 81 18.5
JANNE NIINIMAA EDM 81 4 24 27 7 88 2 0 1 0 142 2.8
ETHAN MOREAU EDM 14 1 5 6 6 8 0 0 1 0 16 6.3
CHI 66 9 6 15 5- 89 0 0 1 0 80 11.3
TOTAL 80 10 11 21 1 97 0 0 2 0 96 10.4
TOM POTI EDM 73 5 16 21 14 42 2 0 3 0 94 5.3
BOYD DEVEREAUX EDM 61 6 8 14 2 23 0 1 4 1 39 15.4
JASON SMITH EDM 12 1 0 1 0 11 0 0 0 0 15 6.7
TOR 60 2 11 13 9- 40 0 0 0 0 53 3.8
TOTAL 72 3 11 14 9- 51 0 0 0 0 68 4.4
CHRISTIAN LAFLAMME EDM 11 0 1 1 3- 0 0 0 0 0 15 0.0
CHI 62 2 11 13 0 70 0 0 0 0 53 3.8
TOTAL 73 2 12 14 3- 70 0 0 0 0 68 2.9
DANIEL CLEARY EDM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
CHI 35 4 5 9 1- 24 0 0 0 0 49 8.2
TOTAL 35 4 5 9 1- 24 0 0 0 0 49 8.2
KELLY BUCHBERGER EDM 52 4 4 8 6- 68 0 2 1 0 29 13.8
SEAN BROWN EDM 51 0 7 7 3 186 0 0 0 0 27 0.0
GEORGES LARAQUE EDM 39 3 2 5 1 54 0 0 0 0 17 17.6
MARTY MCSORLEY EDM 46 2 3 5 5- 101 0 0 0 0 29 6.9
TODD REIRDEN EDM 17 2 3 5 1- 20 0 0 0 0 26 7.7
FRANK MUSIL EDM 39 0 3 3 0 34 0 0 0 0 9 0.0
VLADIMIR VOROBIEV EDM 2 2 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 0 5 40.0
NYR 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
TOTAL 2 2 0 2 1 2 0 0 0 0 5 40.0
CRAIG MILLAR EDM 24 0 2 2 6- 29 0 0 0 0 18 0.0
CHRIS FERRARO EDM 2 1 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 100.0
BOB ESSENSA EDM 39 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
STEVE PASSMORE EDM 6 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
JIM DOWD EDM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0.0
FREDRIK LINDQUIST EDM 8 0 0 0 2- 2 0 0 0 0 6 0.0
BILL HUARD EDM 3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0
JOE HULBIG EDM 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 0 2 0.0
DAN LACOUTURE EDM 3 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
DANIEL LACROIX EDM 4 0 0 0 0 13 0 0 0 0 5 0.0
TOMMY SALO EDM 13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
NYI 51 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
TOTAL 64 0 0 0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 0.0

99-00

PLAYER TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

DOUG WEIGHT EDM 77 21 51 72 6 54 3 1 4 0 167 12.6
RYAN SMYTH EDM 82 28 27 55 2- 58 11 0 4 1 238 11.8
ALEXANDER SELIVANOV EDM 67 27 20 47 2 46 10 0 5 0 122 22.1
BILL GUERIN EDM 70 24 22 46 4 123 11 0 2 0 188 12.8
GERMAN TITOV EDM 7 0 4 4 2 4 0 0 0 0 11 0.0
PIT 63 17 25 42 4- 34 4 2 3 0 111 15.3
TOTAL 70 17 29 46 2- 38 4 2 3 0 122 13.9
ROMAN HAMRLIK EDM 80 8 36 44 9 68 5 0 0 1 180 4.4
TODD MARCHANT EDM 82 17 23 40 9 70 0 1 0 2 170 10.0
TOM POTI EDM 76 9 26 35 8 65 2 1 1 0 125 7.2
JANNE NIINIMAA EDM 81 8 25 33 14 89 2 2 0 0 133 6.0
MIKE GRIER EDM 65 9 22 31 9 68 0 3 2 0 115 7.8
ETHAN MOREAU EDM 73 17 10 27 7 62 1 0 3 0 106 16.0
BOYD DEVEREAUX EDM 76 8 19 27 7 20 0 1 2 1 108 7.4
JIM DOWD EDM 69 5 18 23 10 45 2 0 1 1 103 4.9
GEORGES LARAQUE EDM 76 8 8 16 5 123 0 0 0 0 56 14.3
REM MURRAY EDM 44 9 5 14 2- 8 2 0 3 0 65 13.8
JASON SMITH EDM 80 3 11 14 16 60 0 0 1 0 96 3.1
SEAN BROWN EDM 72 4 8 12 1- 192 0 0 2 0 36 11.1
IGOR ULANOV EDM 14 0 3 3 3- 10 0 0 0 0 6 0.0
MON 43 1 5 6 11- 76 0 0 0 0 33 3.0
TOTAL 57 1 8 9 14- 86 0 0 0 0 39 2.6
DANIEL CLEARY EDM 17 3 2 5 1- 8 0 0 1 0 18 16.7
CHAD KILGER EDM 40 3 2 5 6- 18 0 0 0 0 32 9.4
BERT ROBERTSSON EDM 52 0 4 4 3- 34 0 0 0 0 31 0.0
PAUL COMRIE EDM 15 1 2 3 2- 4 0 0 0 0 11 9.1
BRETT HAUER EDM 5 0 2 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 8 0.0
TOMMY SALO EDM 70 0 1 1 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
DAN LACOUTURE EDM 5 0 0 0 0 10 0 0 0 0 2 0.0
KEVIN BROWN EDM 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 5 0.0
MIKE MINARD EDM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
MICHEL PICARD EDM 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 2 0.0
BILL RANFORD EDM 16 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0

00-01

PLAYER TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

DOUG WEIGHT EDM 82 25 65 90 12 91 8 0 3 2 188 13.3
RYAN SMYTH EDM 82 31 39 70 10 56 11 0 6 1 245 12.7
JANNE NIINIMAA EDM 82 12 33 45 6 90 8 0 1 0 122 9.8
ANSON CARTER EDM 61 16 26 42 1 23 7 1 4 0 102 15.7
TODD MARCHANT EDM 71 13 26 39 0 51 0 4 2 1 113 11.5
MIKE GRIER EDM 74 20 16 36 11 20 2 3 2 1 124 16.1
REM MURRAY EDM 82 15 20 35 5 24 1 3 3 1 122 12.3
DANIEL CLEARY EDM 81 14 20 34 5 37 2 0 2 1 107 13.1
TOM POTI EDM 81 12 20 32 4- 60 6 0 3 0 161 7.5
SERGEI ZHOLTOK EDM 37 4 16 20 8 22 1 0 0 0 61 6.6
MON 32 1 10 11 15- 8 0 0 0 0 79 1.3
TOTAL 69 5 26 31 7- 30 1 0 0 0 140 3.6
GEORGES LARAQUE EDM 82 13 16 29 5 148 1 0 1 1 73 17.8
IGOR ULANOV EDM 67 3 21 24 15 90 1 0 0 1 74 4.1
MIKE COMRIE EDM 41 8 13 21 6 14 3 0 1 0 62 12.9
ERIC BREWER EDM 77 7 13 20 15 53 2 0 2 0 91 7.7
JASON SMITH EDM 82 5 15 20 14 120 1 1 0 0 140 3.6
ETHAN MOREAU EDM 68 9 10 19 6- 90 0 1 3 0 97 9.3
SHAWN HORCOFF EDM 49 9 7 16 8 10 0 0 2 0 42 21.4
DOMENIC PITTIS EDM 47 4 5 9 5- 49 0 0 2 0 42 9.5
SEAN BROWN EDM 62 2 3 5 2 110 0 0 0 0 30 6.7
SVEN BUTENSCHON EDM 7 1 1 2 2 2 0 0 0 0 3 33.3
PIT 5 0 1 1 1 2 0 0 0 0 6 0.0
TOTAL 12 1 2 3 3 4 0 0 0 0 9 11.1
BRIAN SWANSON EDM 16 1 1 2 1- 6 0 0 0 0 8 12.5
FRANK MUSIL EDM 13 0 2 2 2- 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
SCOTT FERGUSON EDM 20 0 1 1 2 13 0 0 0 0 8 0.0
MICHEL RIESEN EDM 12 0 1 1 2 4 0 0 0 0 16 0.0
TOMMY SALO EDM 73 0 1 1 0 4 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
JASON CHIMERA EDM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
PATRICK COTE EDM 6 0 0 0 2- 18 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
RORY FITZPATRICK EDM 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
NAS 2 0 0 0 2- 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
TOTAL 2 0 0 0 2- 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
JOAQUIN GAGE EDM 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
CHRIS HAJT EDM 1 0 0 0 1- 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
DOMINIC ROUSSEL EDM 8 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0

02-03

EDMONTON OILERS
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POS NO. PLAYER GP TOI G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

L 94 RYAN SMYTH 66 19:21 27 34 61 5 67 10 0 3 1 199 13.6
C 26 TODD MARCHANT 77 19:53 20 40 60 13 48 7 1 3 1 146 13.7
L 16 MIKE YORK 71 19:04 22 29 51 8- 10 7 2 4 0 177 12.4
C 89 MIKE COMRIE 69 17:51 20 31 51 18- 90 8 0 6 0 170 11.8
R 20 RADEK DVORAK 75 15:46 10 25 35 6- 30 3 0 0 1 166 6.0
C 10 SHAWN HORCOFF 78 13:29 12 21 33 10 55 2 0 3 0 98 12.2
L 18 ETHAN MOREAU 78 13:30 14 17 31 7- 112 2 3 2 1 137 10.2
C 19 MARTY REASONER 70 14:49 11 20 31 19 28 2 2 0 0 102 10.8
R 83 *ALES HEMSKY 59 12:04 6 24 30 5 14 0 0 1 0 50 12.0
D 2 ERIC BREWER 80 24:55 8 21 29 11- 45 1 0 1 0 147 5.4
L 15 BRAD ISBISTER 66 13:46 13 15 28 9- 43 2 0 3 1 119 10.9
D 24 STEVE STAIOS 76 22:17 5 21 26 13 96 1 3 0 0 126 4.0
L 28 *JASON CHIMERA 66 10:45 14 9 23 2- 36 0 1 4 1 90 15.6
R 7 DANIEL CLEARY 57 11:57 4 13 17 5 31 0 0 1 0 89 4.5
R 34 *FERNANDO PISANI 35 10:43 8 5 13 9 10 0 1 0 0 32 25.0
R 27 GEORGES LARAQUE 64 9:14 6 7 13 4- 110 0 0 2 0 46 13.0
D 21 JASON SMITH 68 21:46 4 8 12 5 64 0 0 1 0 93 4.3
C 37 BRIAN SWANSON 44 11:55 2 10 12 7- 10 1 0 1 0 67 3.0
D 23 CORY CROSS 37 17:23 2 7 9 16 24 1 0 1 0 29 6.9
D 32 SCOTT FERGUSON 78 12:17 3 5 8 11 120 0 0 0 0 45 6.7
D 5 *ALEXEI SEMENOV 46 19:41 1 6 7 7- 58 0 0 0 0 33 3.0
C 33 JIRI DOPITA 21 13:49 1 5 6 4- 11 0 0 1 0 23 4.3
L 14 *JANI RITA 12 9:32 3 1 4 2 0 0 0 0 0 18 16.7
D 47 *MARC-ANDRE BERGERON 5 16:30 1 1 2 2 9 0 0 0 0 5 20.0
C 36 *JARRET STOLL 4 7:44 0 1 1 3- 0 0 0 0 0 5 .0
G 30 JUSSI MARKKANEN 22 53:38 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 .0
D 12 *BOBBY ALLEN 1 2:53 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .0
D 29 KARI HAAKANA 13 7:55 0 0 0 2- 4 0 0 0 0 2 .0
G 35 TOMMY SALO 65 58:40 0 0 0 0 4 0 0 0 0 1 .0

this season

PLAYER TEAM GP G A PTS +/- PIM PP SH GW GT S PCTG

MIKE YORK EDM 25 6 12 18 8 4 0 1 0 0 53 11.3
ALES HEMSKY EDM 24 5 11 16 8- 4 3 0 2 0 24 20.8
RAFFI TORRES EDM 25 8 6 14 3 17 2 0 1 0 44 18.2
RADEK DVORAK EDM 25 5 9 14 9 12 2 0 0 1 66 7.6
RYAN SMYTH EDM 25 6 7 13 7- 24 2 0 1 0 75 8.0
MARCANDRE BERGERON EDM 21 4 7 11 5 14 2 0 0 0 45 8.9
STEVE STAIOS EDM 25 3 8 11 3 39 1 0 1 0 49 6.1
ETHAN MOREAU EDM 25 6 4 10 7 38 0 1 2 1 66 9.1
FERNANDO PISANI EDM 25 3 6 9 7 21 0 0 0 1 30 10.0
JASON SMITH EDM 25 2 7 9 11 18 0 0 0 0 28 7.1
MARTY REASONER EDM 13 2 6 8 7 8 0 1 0 0 21 9.5
JARRET STOLL EDM 13 5 2 7 6 8 0 0 0 0 28 17.9
SHAWN HORCOFF EDM 24 2 5 7 10- 22 0 1 0 0 24 8.3
BRAD ISBISTER EDM 17 3 3 6 1- 23 0 0 1 0 25 12.0
CORY CROSS EDM 23 2 3 5 4- 30 1 0 1 0 27 7.4
ERIC BREWER EDM 22 1 4 5 1 16 0 0 0 0 23 4.3
JASON CHIMERA EDM 22 2 2 4 2- 20 0 0 1 0 31 6.5
SCOTT FERGUSON EDM 24 0 3 3 3 28 0 0 0 0 19 0.0
PETER SARNO EDM 6 1 0 1 2 2 0 0 0 0 5 20.0
ALEXEI SEMENOV EDM 10 1 0 1 4- 12 1 0 0 0 12 8.3
TONY SALMELAINEN EDM 10 0 1 1 1- 4 0 0 0 0 12 0.0
TOMMY SALO EDM 12 0 1 1 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
GEORGES LARAQUE EDM 18 0 1 1 3- 24 0 0 0 0 14 0.0
STEPHEN VALIQUETTE EDM 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0
ADAM OATES EDM 3 0 0 0 2- 0 0 0 0 0 2 0.0
TY CONKLIN EDM 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.

K, I know thats really hard on the eyes, but there it is, add to the fact that our core guys are basically all underachieving terribly this year.

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A lot of that had to do with the fact that we got better players (by swanson, cleary, pittis, etc...), and a lot of it had to do with finances. I am sure our core would have been together longer if it was financialy viable, but it really wasn't.

Turnover always hurts this team. It does it every year, and it has done it again this year. Our hope as fans is that with a new CBA, our turnover rate will drop significantly.

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A lot of that had to do with the fact that we got better players (by swanson, cleary, pittis, etc...), and a lot of it had to do with finances. I am sure our core would have been together longer if it was financialy viable, but it really wasn't.

Turnover always hurts this team. It does it every year, and it has done it again this year. Our hope as fans is that with a new CBA, our turnover rate will drop significantly.
Agreed. Weight, Guerin, Niinimaa... they weren't traded because the Oilers didn't want them any more.

$ = root of all evil.

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Sure you're sick of it Mowzie, so are a majority of Edmonton fans. But who do we blame for it? (since us Oiler posters just LOOOOOve to blame someone).

Lowe doesn't have a huge budget to work with. The Oiler ownership only has limited $.

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Im not really pointing a finger at anyone, Im just basking in my own self pity, until the Oilers win, then I will jump back on the band wagon with everybody else.

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Im not really pointing a finger at anyone, Im just basking in my own self pity, until the Oilers win, then I will jump back on the band wagon with everybody else.
LOL, at least you're honest!

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Agreed. Weight, Guerin, Niinimaa... they weren't traded because the Oilers didn't want them any more.
Theres the fundamental problem with the league. In the perfect world, a player gets drafted, goes through the teams minor league system, makes the big team eventually and matures into a role on the team.

Teams like ours almost seem to be at a disadvantage if a player breaks out. If our minor league system is successful, it should translate into a successful franchise, not making the choice of which player to trade away. Developing players is now almost a pointless art.

And everyone knows the cause of the problems. Money, trade deadline too late encouraging fire sales, and hockey being played where there is no ice on the ground outside. And money.

Its sad, but a little impressive that Edmonton has survived this long.

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I mean any team can get a few breaks and win the cup. Look last year at anaheim and minn. But I take your point that to build a team that can win and doesnt count just on luck then we need a deal like in the NFL where they share all tv revenue, revenue from sales of jerseys, etc, and most importantly a salary cap. The Oil are suffering just as much from many years of bad drafting when they had high choices and ungrateful players who take advantage of the system but when its not in their favor they hold out. I think their biggest problem right now is comrie and bad coaching.

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Brewer , Smith , Smyth , York, Salo,Hemsky..and many , many more ..unless something miraculous happens this next CBA.

 
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I mean any team can get a few breaks and win the cup. Look last year at anaheim and minn.
One problem with that: they didn't win the Cup.

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well one thing the oilers are good at is developing players and then sending them away once dollars are a factor. i admit as well im sick of it as well hopefully with a new cba in place things will change. if not the team is history anyways no way they could survive with the current format.

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