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01-15-2007, 03:11 PM
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Stoll or Lombardi?

I am as big a fan of the Oil as their is, but am really curious as to how much we may overvalue ours.

Jarret Stoll ( my 2nd favorite Oiler) for Matt Lomabardi

would you do this deal?

I would not but am curious about the views of others

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01-15-2007, 03:13 PM
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I am as big a fan of the Oil as their is, but am really curious as to how much we may overvalue ours.

Jarret Stoll ( my 2nd favorite Oiler) for Matt Lomabardi

would you do this deal?


I would not but am curious about the views of others
Hells no, Stoll is as good or better in all aspects of the game, save for skating. Congrats to Lombardi for having a break out year, but Stoll bring much more to the table.

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There´s no way i´d do this.

Lombardi is a good player, but Stoll is, as JJ said, a better player in most aspects of the game.

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It's like comparing Messier to Marchant.

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The Oilers made a mistake by not signing Lombardi and letting him go back in the draft, as did Calgary w/ Stoll.

I say we don't make that mistake and keep both.

Can you imagine it?

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01-15-2007, 03:23 PM
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With no disrespect to Lombardi, right now it's not really close. Maybe as the years go by Lombardi will close the gap, but there's nothing to suggest that he will so far.

And again, that's no disrespect to Lombardi who has become a very nice top 6 forward.

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01-15-2007, 03:39 PM
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Lombardi is good but Stoll is a special hockey player. He's really got it all. Every team has a Lombardi. Every team needs a Stoll.

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01-15-2007, 03:41 PM
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stoll hands down...we don't need another marchant again...

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You do a huge disrespect to Lombardi comparing him to Marchant. Yes, they're both speedy. Lombardi is a much better offensive player than Speedy McStonehands.

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01-15-2007, 03:52 PM
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The Oilers made a mistake by not signing Lombardi and letting him go back in the draft, as did Calgary w/ Stoll.

I say we don't make that mistake and keep both.

Can you imagine it?
It's hard to call dropping Stoll a mistake. Stoll was asking for Crosby money on an entry level contract, that would have paid him 3,000,000 per year with bonuses. I don't think he is making that on his second contract . He had to be released to be kicked down to earth. He was too greedy on his entry contract and was not signed. Great pickup for Edmonton

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01-15-2007, 03:53 PM
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stoll hands down...we don't need another marchant again...
Lombardi will be three times the player Marchant could dream of being. I do prefer Stoll's style though. I think these two will be very evenly matched, stats wise, over their careers.

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Garbage trade.

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You do a huge disrespect to Lombardi comparing him to Marchant. Yes, they're both speedy. Lombardi is a much better offensive player than Speedy McStonehands.
He probably won't ever be as effective defensivly either.

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sure there are a few guys i'd trade for lombardi off our team, even packages.

and i'd trade about 90% of the players on our team if I felt the value of waht was coming back was worth it.

but I would not trade stoll, period.... I hope he stays here a longggg time

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No disrepect to Lombardi, but as of right now it's no contest, imo. Stoll in a heartbeat...

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I am as big a fan of the Oil as their is, but am really curious as to how much we may overvalue ours.

Jarret Stoll ( my 2nd favorite Oiler) for Matt Lomabardi

would you do this deal?

I would not but am curious about the views of others
No...way...

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I think I echo everyone else's thoughts when I say NO WAY.

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01-15-2007, 05:00 PM
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I don't mind this deal. Lombardi has some serious wheels and is starting to produce. On the flip-side I think Stoll has the potential to be a future leader for the Oilers for many years to come...

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It's hard to call dropping Stoll a mistake. Stoll was asking for Crosby money on an entry level contract, that would have paid him 3,000,000 per year with bonuses. I don't think he is making that on his second contract . He had to be released to be kicked down to earth. He was too greedy on his entry contract and was not signed. Great pickup for Edmonton
If that's true then yer right, Calgary couldn't sign him for that. I'm surprised Stoll and/or his agent would have asked for that much, or that Calgary management couldn't have negotiated a reasonable starting level incentive-laden contract, had they had the will to do so.

Do you know what Lombardi was asking from the Oilers?

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Pointless trade if I've ever seen one.

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01-15-2007, 06:53 PM
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If that's true then yer right, Calgary couldn't sign him for that. I'm surprised Stoll and/or his agent would have asked for that much, or that Calgary management couldn't have negotiated a reasonable starting level incentive-laden contract, had they had the will to do so.

Do you know what Lombardi was asking from the Oilers?
No idea what Stoll was asking or what the oilers were offering. The league min. back then was 185,000 I believe. Stoll was looking for top 3 draft pick money even though he was chosen in the second round. He wanted 925,000 base plus rookie bonuses.

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Stollie for sure. stollie is like younger version of Peca where Lombardi is like Marchant with unbelievable wheels.

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easy answer: NOT A CHANCE!
lombardi has wheels and is only slightly better than marchant at scoring. he doesn't have any defensive knowledge and would not help our team on the powerplay either.
stoll doesn't have the wheels that lombardi does but has extraordinary leadership capabilities. he captained the ice to the mem cup and team canada to a silver medal.
stoll may not put up the offensive numbers that lombardi might one day but lombardi will never be the leader that stoll will be or have the intangibles stoll has.

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01-15-2007, 07:55 PM
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I don't think the Oilers and the Flames have ever made a trade with each other and probably never will.

this hypothetical trade would not make sense for either team.

why would the Oilers give up their future captain and #2 centre?

why would the Flames give up their future 30 goal man.

if you want comparisons.

Stoll is Edmonton's Steve Yzerman
Lombardi is Calgary's Jere Lehtinen

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It's hard to call dropping Stoll a mistake. Stoll was asking for Crosby money on an entry level contract, that would have paid him 3,000,000 per year with bonuses. I don't think he is making that on his second contract . He had to be released to be kicked down to earth. He was too greedy on his entry contract and was not signed. Great pickup for Edmonton
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