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01-15-2007, 03:34 PM
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[GER] The Official German Prospect Thread With Stats And More

hey! i thought it might be interesting to collect the stats of drafted germans who play outside the NHL/AHL/ECHL as well as the stats of possible draftees in '08. if i made any mistakes, left out players or something else, it would be nice if you could say so. feel free to discuss anything that's related to these players.

Anaheim Ducks

Sebastian Stefaniszin (G)
Iserlohn Roosters DEL 7 5.18 .860
Landsberg 2000 GER2 2 4.50 ????

Boston Bruins

Denis Reul (D)
Lewiston MAINEiacs QMJHL 42 2 5 7 61

Buffalo Sabres

Felix Schütz (C)
Ingolstadt ERC DEL 30 7 9 16 68

Philip Gogulla (W)
Cologne Sharks DEL 35 8 18 26 14

Los Angeles Kings

Constantin Braun (LW)
Berlin Polar Bears DEL 35 3 4 7 20
Berlin Juniors GER3 2 0 0 0 ?
Germany U20 WJC1A 5 4 2 6 8

Nashville Predators

Robert Dietrich (D)
DEG Metro Stars DEL 6 1 1 2 12
note: broke his ankle twice this season

Ottawa Senators

Stefan Schauer (D)
Sinupret Ice Tigers DEL ? ? ? ? ?
note: still out with a mysterious injury.

Pittsburgh Penguins

Patrick Ehelechner (G)
Sinupret Ice Tigers DEL 6 2.58 .907

San Jose Sharks

Timo Pielmeier (G)
St. John's Fog Devils QMJHL 32 3.15 .908
Germany U20 WJC1A 4 1.31 .915

Toronto Maple Leafs

Korbinian Holzer (D)
DEG Metro Stars DEL 27 1 5 6 36
Germany U20 WJC1A 5 1 1 2 0

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Draft Eligible 2008

Jerome Flaake (LW) (#41 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Cologne Sharks DEL 17 0 0 0 0
Cologne Sharks Jrs DNL 22 25 27 52 40
Germany U20 WJC1A 5 3 3 6 4

Daniel Weiss (RW) (#44 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Berlin Polars Bears DEL 5 0 0 0 2
Berlin Juniors GER3 25 5 10 15 ?
Berlin Jrs DNL 1 1 0 1 2
Germany U20 WJC1A 5 2 7 9 6

Sören Sturm (D) (#45 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Cologne Sharks DEL 24 0 1 1 4
Heilbronn Falcons GER2 13 1 2 3 8

Toni Ritter (LW) (#50 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Heilbronn Falcons GER2 2 0 0 0 0
Heilbronner EC/Jungad. DNL 23 21 22 43 24
Germany U20 WJC1A 5 1 6 7 0

Marko Nowak (D) (#53 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
DEG Metro Stars DEL 16 0 0 0 0
DEG Jrs DNL 15 8 10 18 10

Benedikt Brückner (D) (#61 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Heilbronn Falcons GER2 1 0 0 0 0
Heilbronner EC/Jungad. DNL 27 5 11 16 44

Sinan Akdag (RW) (#66 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Krefeld Penguins DEL 26 0 0 0 6
Bad Nauheim EC GER3 3 0 1 1 ?

Patrick Geiger (F) (#86 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Berlin Juniors GER3 30 4 9 13 ?

Philipp Riefers (RW) (#122 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Krefeld Jrs DNL 24 29 17 46 28

Sebastian Pigache (W) (#141 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
DEG Jrs DNL 25 16 18 34 22

Andre Huebscher (F) (#150 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Krefeld Penguins DEL 36 0 2 2 4

Steven Rupprich (F) (#163 european skaters, CSS mid-term rankings)
Berlin Juniors GER3 33 2 7 9 ?

Maximilian Englbrecht (G) (#15 european goalies, CSS mid-term rankings)
Landshut EV Jrs DNL 24 3.23 ????

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leagues and explanations:

DEL = Deutsche Eishockey Liga: highest league in germany, www.del.org
GER2 = Asstel Eishockey Liga: 2nd league in germany, www.esbg.de
GER3 = Oberliga: 3rd league in germany, www.esbg.de
DNL = Deutsche Nachwuchs Liga: highest junior league in germany
WJC1A = World Junior Championships, Division 1A


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hmm...looks awful.

will try to fix it with the next update. sorry!

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Hockeyweb has the stats for the DNL, plus the top Junioren, Jugend and Schüler leagues as well.

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Hockeyweb has the stats for the DNL, plus the top Junioren, Jugend and Schüler leagues as well.
ah, nice. thanks a lot.

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looks much better now. added a few teams of the younger players. stats will be updated tomorrow, i guess.

still waiting for critics and players who are worth a look.

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ok, stats are updated.

does anyone know if marcel mueller is playing elsewhere than oberliga/DNL?
and i wonder what the status of alexander oblinger is. he's somewhere listed as cologne shark with a FL, but plays for the DNL team of mannheim. this makes no sense.

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Great post btw.

What are Sulzer's plans regarding playing in North America?

Also, how have Holzer and Braun progressed this year?

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ok, stats are updated.

does anyone know if marcel mueller is playing elsewhere than oberliga/DNL?
and i wonder what the status of alexander oblinger is. he's somewhere listed as cologne shark with a FL, but plays for the DNL team of mannheim. this makes no sense.
Marcel Müller is playing DEL mostly. He had an 8-match suspension and he has 4 matches left I think.

Oblinger played for Mannheims DNL team last season and is playing for Kölns DNL team this season.

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Also, how have Holzer and Braun progressed this year?
Holzer is awesome. He had a great season and was the best Defenseman of Regensburg. He has a solid first pass, knwos where he has to stand and is a good checker, but his biggest attitude is that he always fights for every inche of ice. The problem is that Regensburg had an absolutely bad team, with a better team his developement would have been better. They had high ambitions, but most of the Players were dissappointing, that's why they're allready out of the PO's. Holzer was checked during the last game and hat to be driven to hospital. He has a hard concussion...again

Gratz to the Leafs for Drafting this guy....love his play

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finally a big update!

the stats of 2nd and 3rd league are incomplete, PIM are missing.

the stats of the goalies are still incomplete.

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Man, haven't heard much about Ehelechner this year, and is Oppenheimer available for the draft this year?

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Man, haven't heard much about Ehelechner this year, and is Oppenheimer available for the draft this year?
ehelechner seems to have a future in the DEL, but i don't think we'll see him in the NHL some day. as far as i know, he was injured for a while.

oppenheimer is born late 88, so i think he's eligible for this years draft. i will add him to the list above. could be worth a late pick.

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Florian Ondruschka

Wait and see...

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Florian Ondruschka

Wait and see...
Ondruschka und David Cespiva are doing an AMAZING job in the play-offs for the ice tigers as their number 4 and 5 defensemen. both are playing very solid defensively right now, and are also a physical presence. Cespiva also owns a very hard shot and scored his second goal of the post-season in the 2-6 loss against mannheim this afternoon on the powerplay. Perhaps they could be longshots for the NHL.

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CSB' final rankings are out, here are the Germans on the European list:

ranking/position/name/mid-term ranking

#16 D Denis Reul (29)
#59 D Thorsten Ankert (64)
#81 C David Wolf (nr)
#123 RW Steven Rupprich (170)
#139 C Elia Ostwald (136)
#147 C Alexander Oblinger (95)
#155 LW Andre Huebscher (105)
#162 C Martin Hinterstocker (157)
#170 W Marcel Müller (137)

#10 G Timo Pielmeier (8)

Henry Martens, Maximilian Brandl and Alexander Weiss dropped out

Kind of weird, the top 4 either went up or weren't even on the list before, while the rest dropped down.

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reul seems to be the only sure upcoming draftee, ankert with some small chances.
not sure about pielmeier. maybe a late pick by the sharks.

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added the stats of david wolf (mannheim) to the list.

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just wondering how good Timo Pielmeier could be? i remember watchign him play canada at the world juniors and i was pretty impressed with him, especially considering teh circumstances, 17 year old, in the u-20's playing his first game.
i certainly would love to see teh leafs draft him late we need another goalie in teh system, and being half german i liek to see german palyers picked

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just wondering how good Timo Pielmeier could be? i remember watchign him play canada at the world juniors and i was pretty impressed with him, especially considering teh circumstances, 17 year old, in the u-20's playing his first game.
i certainly would love to see teh leafs draft him late we need another goalie in teh system, and being half german i liek to see german palyers picked
Sorry, San Jose took him in the 3rd round. It had to happen, really, because you know we've got that whole German goaltender market cornered.

And as a hilarious side note, I half jokingly predicted that pick during the 2nd round. On the Sharks draft thread, I had a list of guys I wanted SJ to take, and on that list was Pielmeier, with the reasoning that we could never have enough German goalies.

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Well, I have someone to add to your list.

The Ducks drafted SEBASTIAN STEFANISZIN from Berlin, Germany! 4th round, 98th overall.

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Well, I have someone to add to your list.

The Ducks drafted SEBASTIAN STEFANISZIN from Berlin, Germany! 4th round, 98th overall.
I really liked Stefaniszin during the WJCs, especially in the game vs the US when he stood on his head. I hope he pans out, even if it is for a Sharks rival.

Oh well, we'll still have the better German goalie, because I have a feeling that Thomas Greiss is going to be special.

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Not really about prospects, but it definately has to do with German youth hockey:

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„Nachwuchsförderung im
Deutschen Eishockey“

Zur Intensivierung der Nachwuchsförderung im Deutschen Eishockey schlagen die Clubs der DEL, auf Basis der Vorgespräche mit dem Sportdirektor des DEB, Franz Reindl, und dem Bundesnachwuchstrainer, Ernst Höfner, folgenden Maßnahmenkatalog vor:

1. Konkretisierung der Anforderungen an die Nachwuchsarbeit des Stammvereins gemäß § 11 Lizenzordnung der DEL.
Jeder DEL Club muss mit einem Stammverein kooperieren, der ab der Spielzeit 2008/2009 (wenn nicht anders angegeben) die nachfolgend aufgelisteten Anforderungen erfüllt:

a) Der Stammverein sollte seinen Sitz am Standort des DEL Clubs oder maximal in 30 km Umkreis haben, es sei denn, es gibt triftige Gründe für eine anderweitige Kooperation.
b) Der Stammverein muss mit mindestens fünf Mannschaften am Spielbetrieb des DEB bzw. des jeweiligen LEV in den nachfolgenden Altersstufen teilnehmen: Kleinschüler, Knaben, Schüler, Jugend, DNL, Junioren. Zusätzlich sind Anfängergruppen (Laufschule, Bambini) anzubieten.
c) Ab der Saison 2010/2011 muss jeder Stammverein
mindestens eine Mannschaft für Knaben A, Schülerbundesliga oder DNL qualifiziert haben.
Ab der Saison 2012/2013 muss jeder Stammverein
mindestens zwei Mannschaften für Knaben A, Schülerbundesliga oder DNL qualifiziert haben.
d) Jeder Mannschaft sowie den Anfängergruppen (Laufschule, Bambini) müssen während der Saison (September bis März) mindestens drei Trainingseinheiten von mindestens 60 Minuten pro Woche zur Verfügung stehen, es sei denn, die
Hallenverfügbarkeit steht dem entgegen. Darüber hinaus, sowie im Sommer, ist ein begleitendes Trockentraining anzubieten.
e) Alle Mannschaften müssen bei allen Trainingseinheiten und Spielen von qualifizierten Trainern betreut werden. Hierfür muss jeder Stammverein:
ab der Saison 2008/2009 mindestens sechs Honorartrainer, davon mindestens drei mit C-Lizenz nachweisen, ab der Saison 2010/2011 mindestens sechs Honorartrainer davon mindestens einen mit B-Lizenz und mindestens fünf mit C-Lizenz nachweisen, ab der Saison 2012/2013 mindestens sechs Honorartrainer davon einen Trainer mit A-Lizenz in Vollzeit sowie mindestens fünf Trainer mit C-Lizenz nachweisen.

2. ESBG und DEB verpflichten sich, entsprechende Regularien auch für die Stammvereine der Mannschaften, die am Spielbetrieb der 2. Bundesliga teilnehmen, verbindlich festzulegen.

3. Leistungen des DEB
a) Der DEB bietet regelmäßige Workshops für
die Nachwuchskoordinatoren der Stammvereine
an.
b) Der DEB kontrolliert die Erfüllung der Vorgaben und berät die Stammvereine durch regelmäßige Besuche Vorort.
c) Der DEB bietet regelmäßige Sondertrainingsveranstaltungen bei den Stammvereinen an, zum Beispiel für Torhüter oder Power skating.
d) Der DEB entwickelt ein tragfähiges Konzept zur Integration von Kindergartenkindern und Schulanfängern in Laufschulen und Bambinimannschaften sowie die Einbindung von neuen
Förderprogrammen (z. B. „Fit statt Fett“) in diese Konzepte. Er informiert die Stammvereine regelmäßig über die Fördermöglichkeiten.
e) Der DEB vermittelt und leistet aktive Lobbyarbeit zur kostengünstigen Akquisition von Eiszeiten, bei der Förderung von Neubauten sowie der Zurverfügungstellung von Ausrüstungsgegenständen insbesondere für Anfänger.

4. Teilnahme an der DNL
Unter Bezugnahme auf die Regelung im Kooperationsvertrag wird der DEB nochmals wohlwollend die Möglichkeit überprüfen, die DNL bei sportlicher Eignung des Bewerbers um weitere
Stammvereine der DEL-Clubs zu erweitern.

5. Teilnahme an der Oberliga
DEB und ESBG werden dafür Sorge tragen, dass ab der Saison 2008/2009 bis zu drei sportlich geeignete (nicht unbedingt sportlich qualifizierte) „Farmteams“ der DEL-Clubs am Spielbetrieb der Oberliga teilnehmen können. Gegebenenfalls erfolgt diese Teilnahme unter Verzicht auf die Aufstiegsmöglichkeit
in die zweite Bundesliga.

6. Ausländische Spieler in der Oberliga
DEB und ESBG werden dafür Sorge tragen, dass die Anzahl der ausländischen Spieler in der Oberliga kontinuierlich reduziert wird und zur Saison 2010/2011 keine Ausländer mehr in der Oberliga
eingesetzt werden dürfen.

7. Ausländische Spieler in der 2. Bundesliga
DEB und ESBG tragen dafür Sorge, dass die Anzahl der ausländischen Spieler in der zweiten Bundesliga nicht erhöht wird. Zur besonderen Förderung deutscher Torhüter sollen ab der Saison 2008/2009 in der zweiten Bundesliga ausländische Torhüter mit zwei „Ausländerlizenzen“ bewertet werden.

8. Ausländische Spieler in der DEL
Die DEL reduziert ab der Saison 2008/2009 die Anzahl der ausländischen Spieler auf 10 auf dem Spielbericht bei 12 Saisonlizenzen. Auf dem Spielbericht stehen ab der Saison 2008/2009 nur noch maximal 20 Spieler, davon max. 17 Ausländer/Ü 25 Spieler, davon maximal 10 Ausländer. Weitere Reduzierungsmöglichkeiten werden, in Abhängigkeit von der Entwicklung der DEL im Hinblick auf die Anzahl der Mannschaften und Spiele sowie die Auswirkungen der anderen in diesem Konzept verankerten Maßnahmen, regelmäßig durch die Sportkommission geprüft.

So, in the future there will be slightly less foreigners but also less players on the active roster (20 instead of 22).

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Hi all. Does anyone know where I can find a list of German players selected in the NHL draft?

Viele dank.

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Korbinian Holzer has been getting great reviews at the prospects tournament in Kitchener.

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=416967

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Since I didn't have much time lately, I haven't watched any games this season so far. So this is pretty much based on the stats, but it seems like Gogulla and Alexander Weiss are having a good season up till now.

Can anyone tell me if that's true or if their stats are deceiving?

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