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i can imagine none of dallas, detriot, colorado, st. louis, or vancouver would want to face peca in the playoffs, and if peca isn't dealt to an east coast team, i could see some of these teams outbidding each other.
what would he cost each team if they were interested?
i can imagine none of dallas, detriot, colorado, st. louis, or vancouver would want to face peca in the playoffs, and if peca isn't dealt to an east coast team, i could see some of these teams outbidding each other.
what would he cost each team if they were interested?
a few suggestions on my part:
to det: peca
to nyi: hudler, holmstrom and a mid-pick
to dal: peca
to nyi: arnott & niko kapanen
to col: peca
to nyi: tanguay
to stl: peca
to nyi: sejna, mayers & mid-pick
to nucks: peca
to nyi: ruutu, cooke & early pick
thoughts?
Ill pass on all of them except Dallas and Colorado.
Hudler at least 2-3 years away, Holmstrom i like, but doesnt answer any problems.
Sejna and mayers dont' do anything for this team sorry
a 3rd and a 4th liner from the canucks, once again will pass.
i can imagine none of dallas, detriot, colorado, st. louis, or vancouver would want to face peca in the playoffs, and if peca isn't dealt to an east coast team, i could see some of these teams outbidding each other.
what would he cost each team if they were interested?
a few suggestions on my part:
to det: peca
to nyi: hudler, holmstrom and a mid-pick
to dal: peca
to nyi: arnott & niko kapanen
to col: peca
to nyi: tanguay
to stl: peca
to nyi: sejna, mayers & mid-pick
to nucks: peca
to nyi: ruutu, cooke & early pick
thoughts?
Peca is too expensive $$ for the Blues at this point and the Blues are not looking for a Center. I would like Parrish, but the Blues don't have a lot that NYI would be interested in.
I think Dallas gets the proverbial shaftin their trade and maybe so do the Aves, because of $$ and age.
TTanguay for Peca?he Avs need another center and to unload thier leading socrer because?
If the Isles could get that type of return I'd be very, very happy.
Tang + other player or pick would cost Peca & Parrish right now. Milbury should have coughed up the players last year when they had interest in Isbister, and Tanguay had started off slow.
not to sure if the avs have anything worth while to the isles other than tanguay?
can't interest u in skoula can i
besides forsberg could move to the wing, seems to get injured less there and a forsberg-peca-hejduk would be a b!tch to play against
In reality right now I don't see the Avs and Isles as a good fit for a trade. Your correct that we would want Tanguay as the asset back, but no way would PL make a move like that. Colorado does not have a group of good prospects or a 20 something forward to move right now (the rumored returns for Peca).
Guess I'll give you credit for not offering Skoula, Brigly, and a pick.
In reality right now I don't see the Avs and Isles as a good fit for a trade. Your correct that we would want Tanguay as the asset back, but no way would PL make a move like that. Colorado does not have a group of good prospects or a 20 something forward to move right now (the rumored returns for Peca).
Guess I'll give you credit for not offering Skoula, Brigly, and a pick.
Any of the rest of you Islander fans getting fed up with Tiki's attitude?
If Peca is dealt, would it be a pure salary dump? (I haven't really been paying much attention to their situation)
Not a pure Salary dump, more of a roster shake up because of a long slide, but the Isles would not want to take on any more salary. The Bonk Rumor makes too much sense to be true. The Isles get a good second line center back, plus save about 1 mill a year.
I for one would not like to see him moved, but that would be a good return if MM decides a shake up is needed.
not a bad deal at all, but I would rather give up Datsyuk straight up before I gave up Hudler (dynamite player when the Wings will need one) and a potential line mate for Peca.
to dal: peca
to nyi: arnott & niko kapanen
over paying for Dallas; Arnott and a second or similar deal to the Nieuwendyk deal would be reasonable
to col: peca
to nyi: tanguay
over paying for Colorado---wouldn't even consider this deal
to stl: peca
to nyi: sejna, mayers & mid-pick
Isles lose this one big time. I am nowhere near sold on Sejna and Mayers is a 3rd-4th liner. This deal is way off the mark
to nucks: peca
to nyi: ruutu, cooke & early pick
interesting deal. I like Cooke and I like Ruutu, but unless that is a first or maybe second, I probably would pass.
maybe if the isles threw a dman plus peca for tanguay/
which dman could be part of the package?
jonsson? probably too much,
cairns? might not be enough.
Not a pure Salary dump, more of a roster shake up because of a long slide, but the Isles would not want to take on any more salary. The Bonk Rumor makes too much sense to be true. The Isles get a good second line center back, plus save about 1 mill a year.
I for one would not like to see him moved, but that would be a good return if MM decides a shake up is needed.
Would something like this work?
to NYI -- Peca
to LA -- Stumpel + Cammalleri (or another prospect or 2 within reason)
Obviously Stumpel isn't as good as Bonk but he does give you a second line center. Cammalleri gives you a good prospect (who has played very well this year) who could possibly play in New York right now and also gives you a long term asset as well. Granted this doesn't make the Islanders lose any salary as Stumpel + Cammalleri basically equals Peca's salary.
That said, I don't expect DT to pursue Peca. Stumpel is expendable if Allison comes back fairly soon like reports are indicating as the acquistion of Straka and continued strong play of Armstrong make him rather redundant in LA. (especially given we could use more grit up front)
I had a bit of a chuckle over Kvashinator12's comment that he wouldn't want 3rd & 4th liners from the Canucks for Peca. On Vancouver, Peca would play 3rd line centre at best & maybe even 4th line if Linden was to remain our 3rd line centre. Though I like Peca, his addition to the Canucks would only bolster a pretty solid checking line the team already has & I could definately not see any advantage of the Canucks getting Peca at the expense of losing Cooke & Ruutu. Together, those two bring all that Peca brings to a team at a cost of more than $3 million less in player salary.
Ruutu we could spare, but not Cooke. Also one of either Malik, Allen or Sopel. More than that & it really wouldn't be worth Vancouver's time to take on the extra salary that Peca would bring. The Canuck's lineup would then be:
Naslund - Morrison - Bertuzzi
D Sedin - H Sedin - King
Arvedson - Peca - Cooke
May - Chubarov - Linden
With the current state of the New York Islanders and Michael Peca's status, there is no way an Alex Tanguay type can be justified.
Ridiculous, in my opinion.
The Avalanche have absolutely no incentive to move Tanguay right now. In case you haven't noticed, he leads the league in assists as a premier playmaker and is consistently battling for the point lead. I expect him to pick up another couple tonight against the Sharks.
The Avs will not be dealing Tanguay unless a worthwhile goaltender is on the market. We already have Peter Forsberg and Joe Sakic at center, and Andrei Nikolishin has been an outstanding third line center(second in the NHL in faceoff percentage at 61.4%). Peca is a damn good player in all aspects of the game, but there is no need to deal Tanguay for an asset that we are already deep in. Keep in mind Riku Hahl, Dan Hinote, Steve Moore, Travis Brigley and Cody McCormick are all capable of playing center as well, although I doubt we see Riku for a while.
In Pierre Lacroix we trust, and I doubt he makes that type of move.
I don't see the Canucks having ANY interest in Peca at all... not that I wouldn't want them too...
I would love to add Peca, but adding his $4.5mill salary for this year and next would likely mean we kiss goodbye to Morrison and/or Ohlund as both those guys are up for new contracts next season (along with others, including Cloutier and both the Sedins)...
it's really not worth the financial headache for us... the last thing I'd want this team to do is take a financial risk now, and lose our core, and have to go through a rebuilding phase... not that I think we need to worry about it much, since Burke is pretty committed to continuing to build on what we have, rather than make such huge moves.
Adding Peca, isn't just about losing some assets to a team that might be looking for a salary dump (which with Peca is unlikely in NYI), but it's adding $9mill in salary against a team that is already at it's max, and looking for multiple key players hitting RFA status after this year.
What I would love to do though is give the Isles a mid round pick for free to make sure they trade Peca to an Eastern conference team!
i can imagine none of dallas, detriot, colorado, st. louis, or vancouver would want to face peca in the playoffs, and if peca isn't dealt to an east coast team, i could see some of these teams outbidding each other.
what would he cost each team if they were interested?
a few suggestions on my part:
to det: peca
to nyi: hudler, holmstrom and a mid-pick
to dal: peca
to nyi: arnott & niko kapanen
to col: peca
to nyi: tanguay
to stl: peca
to nyi: sejna, mayers & mid-pick
to nucks: peca
to nyi: ruutu, cooke & early pick
thoughts?
The Isles could use some SCORING !!! Peca very overratted and not worth that kind of money. I like Mapltoft 100 times better that Peca head.
I think that's the package that will be closest to what Peca gets if he is traded. He deserves a bigger return, but if the owners/GMs are serious about being fiscally responsible and setting themselves up for the post-CBA nhl, it's going to be hard moving a player with Peca's contract (and damn near impossible for someone like Jagr, Cujo). Maybe someone will get desperate and overpay, or will just take a gamble that the new CBA won't be as cost restrictive as expected; but I doubt it.
to NYI -- Peca
to LA -- Stumpel + Cammalleri (or another prospect or 2 within reason)
Obviously Stumpel isn't as good as Bonk but he does give you a second line center. Cammalleri gives you a good prospect (who has played very well this year) who could possibly play in New York right now and also gives you a long term asset as well. Granted this doesn't make the Islanders lose any salary as Stumpel + Cammalleri basically equals Peca's salary.
That said, I don't expect DT to pursue Peca. Stumpel is expendable if Allison comes back fairly soon like reports are indicating as the acquistion of Straka and continued strong play of Armstrong make him rather redundant in LA. (especially given we could use more grit up front)
Yeah, and what part of this does work for the Isles? They gain nothing. They loose no salary. There is absolutely zero reason for the Isles to do this.
Sorry Willie, and I hope you won't see this as a flame, but this is more than a little unrealistic.
DET offer: No thanks. No need for Hudler, we passed on him in 4 occasions, why trade for him, especially when he's the centerpiece, much less for your franchise player? Holmstrom would be nice, quite an underrated winger, but the Isles are full with players like him. He's a checking line player, the Isles need top end scores. I couldn't care less about the pick added.
DAL offer: I do that in a heart beat. One who was a legit calder candidate last season and who's already a Selke contender in Niko Kapanen. He could replace some of Peca's intangibles with his defensive aspects. Then Jason Arnott, who I view about equal to Mike. I like this one the best, but the Stars would never do this. The Isles probably neither as they only lose about 3k with it. Valuewise it favors my Isles way too much.
COL offer: No thanks. Peca provides a much greater value and is simply a much better player. If we were to trade him, expect it to be a 2 for 1 deal so it helps more then just one weakness, you better expect such a return when you deal away your best player. Add a minor asset like Skoula and I's say it's fair strictly based on the dumping of Peca's salary while still getting a dcent return. I'd never trade Peca personally..
STL offer: Nah. Sejna is already 24 orso and hasn't impressed me at all so far. He's got an interesting promiss for sure but I expect a more safer bet as a return, or else we we better off keeping Connoly and Pyatt. Mayers adds nothing to our line-up as we are stacked with players like him already.
VAN offer: Worst one of the entire bunch. A career 4th line agitator in Ruutu? He has no value and I doubt he'd crack the Isles 4th line. Matt Cooke, see Holmstrom. No thanks.
Value wise, here's how I'd rank 'm:
1 - DAL
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2 - COL
3 - STL
4 - DET
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5 - VAN
detroit always struck me as far away from the west coast, but perhaps the surfing is good there.
I know this was sarcastic but there is surf in Detroit, the great lakes are surfable. The surf in the great lakes is pretty poor though, weak mushy waves.
