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01-20-2007, 02:12 AM
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Goalie Goals and who's next?

Just for the hell of it. Not that any new ones happened. But always entertaining:

Ron Hextall vs. Boston

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meLpuF9UMvk

(for some reason I can't find Hextall's other goal)

Martin Brodeur vs. Montreal
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OllCAzhxLc4

Chris Osgood vs. Hartford
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2nHWAKouas

Jose Theodore vs. NYI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKQ1wabPx94

Evgeni Nabokov vs. Vancouver
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5hGdQsw2Ek



Who do you think will be the next to fire a puck into a net? Patrick Roy tried and missed repeatedly. Others have been credited for goals, after touching the puck last - Billy Smith, Damian Rhodes, Mika Noronen and Chris Mason.

But who will be next? For some reason I always expect Dwayne Roloson to fire it the length of the ice but he never tries or does it. One day his batting the puck out of his end, might roll down to the other goal.

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01-20-2007, 02:15 AM
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Also:
Hextall's goal in the playoffs was also shorthanded.
Brodeur scored his in the playoffs.

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Maybe Marty Turco will be next

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Henrik Lundqvist's recent attempt was pretty funny. Maybe he'll try it again, seems he wants one.

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I've always figured Roloson for multiple empty-netters one season. He's such a great long passer, having hit guys at centre ice before.

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The Hextall goal link is wrong.

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01-20-2007, 09:41 AM
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It may have been the flyers puting it in the goal for Brodeur but still a goal a very funny goal at that lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep5rS6-Mr0

and until the trapaziod behind the nets change think be long time before any goalie will score a goal because there just is not any time for them to try with the lines so close to the net


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01-20-2007, 10:25 AM
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In addition to his April 17, 1997 playoff goal, Martin Brodeur was also credited with a goal during the regular season on February 15, 2000. The Flyers pulled their goalie on a delayed penalty while down 2-1. Daymon Langkow passed the puck back, but it went into his own goal to put the Devils up 3-1. That goal turned out to be the game-winning goal of 4-2 final.

Martin Brodeur certainly has the ability to do it again. It is certainly harder now with the trapazoid behind the goal line. Teams are very good at dumping the puck softly into the corners. Even if it does go in harder and ends up behind the goal cage, it is difficult for a goalie bring it back out in front.

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It may have been the flyers puting it in the goal for Brodeur but still a goal a very funny goal at that lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ep5rS6-Mr0

and until the trapiozd behind the nets change think be long time before any goalie will score a goal because there just is not any time for them to try with the lines so close to the net
Great job. I didn't refresh this page before posting, so I didn't see your post until I hit "Submit Reply." Thanks for the link.

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01-20-2007, 10:30 AM
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Here's my "as complete as I can get it" list:

http://hockeygoalies.org/stats/twowaygoalies.html

I'd love for additions to the list if they're documented.

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01-20-2007, 12:57 PM
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Here's my "as complete as I can get it" list:

http://hockeygoalies.org/stats/twowaygoalies.html

I'd love for additions to the list if they're documented.
Jarmo Myllys Luleå Elitserien (swedish elite league) scored in 1999 playoffs and in 2000-2001 regular season.

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/sh...gi?serial=1384

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZA7UvCjDi8 (regular season goal)

Vesa Toskala Färjestads BK Elitserien (swedish elite league) scored in 1999-2000 regular season.

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/sh...cgi?serial=531

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be6w8gIY6Rs

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Here's my "as complete as I can get it" list:

http://hockeygoalies.org/stats/twowaygoalies.html

I'd love for additions to the list if they're documented.
That's a great site. However, Martin Brodeur does not "wear down after playing as many regular-season games as he does." During the 2002-03 regular season, Brodeur was second in minutes and games played, yet he was terrific in playoffs while leading the Devils to the Stanley Cup Championship. His finest game may have been Game 7 of the Finals, stopping all 24 shots he faced. Brodeur has hardly ever been the reason for the Devils being eliminated in the playoffs. The problem is more often a lack of scoring.

Also, he puts rebounds "back into the middle of the ice" usually only when there are not any opposing players there. Brodeur has a Gretzky-like understanding of where the players on the ice are located, both his teammates and the opposition.

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That's a great site. However, Martin Brodeur does not "wear down after playing as many regular-season games as he does." During the 2002-03 regular season, Brodeur was second in minutes and games played, yet he was terrific in playoffs while leading the Devils to the Stanley Cup Championship. His finest game may have been Game 7 of the Finals, stopping all 24 shots he faced. Brodeur has hardly ever been the reason for the Devils being eliminated in the playoffs. The problem is more often a lack of scoring.

Also, he puts rebounds "back into the middle of the ice" usually only when there are not any opposing players there. Brodeur has a Gretzky-like understanding of where the players on the ice are located, both his teammates and the opposition.
defensive much...I hope youre related to care that much about another persons opinion.

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Jarmo Myllys Luleå Elitserien (swedish elite league) scored in 1999 playoffs and in 2000-2001 regular season.

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/sh...gi?serial=1384

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZA7UvCjDi8 (regular season goal)

Vesa Toskala Färjestads BK Elitserien (swedish elite league) scored in 1999-2000 regular season.

http://www.eurohockey.net/players/sh...cgi?serial=531

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=be6w8gIY6Rs
Thanks! I'll add them ASAP - do you happen to know the dates?

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That's a great site. However, Martin Brodeur does not "wear down after playing as many regular-season games as he does." During the 2002-03 regular season, Brodeur was second in minutes and games played, yet he was terrific in playoffs while leading the Devils to the Stanley Cup Championship. His finest game may have been Game 7 of the Finals, stopping all 24 shots he faced. Brodeur has hardly ever been the reason for the Devils being eliminated in the playoffs. The problem is more often a lack of scoring.

Also, he puts rebounds "back into the middle of the ice" usually only when there are not any opposing players there. Brodeur has a Gretzky-like understanding of where the players on the ice are located, both his teammates and the opposition.
Thanks! It's a fun site to maintain - it definitely keeps me on my toes.

On the Brodeur notes, I generally get those from the major sites at the time (since I don't always trust my own eyes on a lot of these things). For Marty, that may be a bit dated, probably from the early 2000s when that was definitely the consensus among the experts.

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In my opinion, it is now even less likely for a goalie to score a goal given that if the goalie misses and icing is called and his team cannot change players. Would a goalie risk having a faceoff in his own zone with tired teammates just to score a goal?

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Like someone else said, Henrik Lundqvist tried earlier this season, and it was blocked, and they scored on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3ojhjXuNA&NR

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Thanks! I'll add them ASAP - do you happen to know the dates?
Only I know is Myllys playoff goal: March, 16, 1999 vs. Leksand. Luleå won 4-2.

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Thanks! I just updated the site.

I also modified the Brodeur bio somewhat to reflect David Puddy's suggestions.

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Considering that the "consensus" on Brodeur when he started out was that since he had had a knee operation his durability was a concern, it could have been worse.

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Here's what Martin Brodeur has to write about the trapazoid rule in his autobiography:
With those lines in place, it's going to be more difficult for any goalie to score again because it will have to happen only when the puck can be controlled right in front of the net, and in those instances the other team's forwards are usually on you too quick to make a play. But it's not over. I'll score at least one more goal before I retire (Brodeur and Cox 75).
Brodeur, Martin and Cox, Damien. Brodeur Beyond the Crease. Mississauga, Ontario: Wiley, 2006

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I'd love to see the trapezoid removed, but I've beaten this topic to death before so I'll leave it at that.

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i say dipietro scores the next 1

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Here's what Martin Brodeur has to write about the trapazoid rule in his autobiography:
With those lines in place, it's going to be more difficult for any goalie to score again because it will have to happen only when the puck can be controlled right in front of the net, and in those instances the other team's forwards are usually on you too quick to make a play. But it's not over. I'll score at least one more goal before I retire (Brodeur and Cox 75).
Brodeur, Martin and Cox, Damien. Brodeur Beyond the Crease. Mississauga, Ontario: Wiley, 2006
ugh, i hate to admit a Devil being amazing, but Marty is just that.. If he puts his mind to it, i'm sure he'll be the next goalie to score a goal.

i love Henrik and would love for him to score, but i think he was quite embarrassed by his attempt and won't try any time soon.

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i say dipietro scores the next 1
Quoted for truth, DiPietro's got a sick shot. I remember watching him kill a penalty once by shooting the puck down the ice twice right on target at the other goalie.

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Like someone else said, Henrik Lundqvist tried earlier this season, and it was blocked, and they scored on him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-3ojhjXuNA&NR

That's pretty hilarious.

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