Rumour: Peca to Leafs?

[Trottier]

Originally Posted by pinto80

1 of peca or hamrlik isnt going to put us over the top, so why sacrifice the future?

If the consensus is that they wouldn't be the missing piece(s), then no, you would be unwise to move futures for them.

But the question then becomes, what exactly do you think would put this veteran team over the top?

Worth noting that Niedemayer and Thomas, neither star, impact players at this point, were two key acquisitions that played key roles in the Ducks' run to the Finals.

[ULF_55]

Originally Posted by Trottier

If the consensus is that they wouldn't be the missing piece(s), then no, you would be unwise to move futures for them.

But the question then becomes, what exactly do you think would put this veteran team over the top?

Worth noting that Niedemayer and Thomas, neither star, impact players at this point, were two key acquisitions that played key roles in the Ducks' run to the Finals.

Great point, and neither of those players cost anything of value to acquire.

[islandermaniac]

Originally Posted by pinto80

1 of peca or hamrlik isnt going to put us over the top, so why sacrifice the future?

honest question: what puts the leafs into a position where they can call themselves true stanley cup contenders?

[Pinto]

Originally Posted by islandermaniac

honest question: what puts the leafs into a position where they can call themselves true stanley cup contenders?

I honestly think this team can be a contender with another solid top 4 defeceman, not a centre that would probably play on our 3rd or 4th line, or a defenceman that would most likey take a key player from our current roster to get via trade

McCabe and Kaberle are money together
Klee and Berg are shutting down opponents top lines
Pilar (good enough to play top 4, and is currently playing on our 1st pp unit) and Marchment are a solid bottom pairing. Both of which can land HUGE hits without notice, thats a very underrated part of pilar's play

[Trottier]

Originally Posted by islandermaniac

honest question: what puts the leafs into a position where they can call themselves true stanley cup contenders?

I don't speak on behalf of the Leafs or their fans, but from an outsider's perspective, one only has to have seen this team over the last several playoff seasons to know they were knocking on the door. Last year, they got knocked out early (in 7), but combine their recent history (playing the Devils very tough, etc.) with the fact that they have a lot of seasoned vets (a plus come April), and it's an obvious conclusion.

[Pinto]

If you mean youth, well we have more than we did last year

[islandermaniac]

Originally Posted by pinto80

I honestly think this team can be a contender with another solid top 4 defeceman, not a centre that would probably play on our 3rd or 4th line, or a defenceman that would most likey take a key player from our current roster to get via trade

McCabe and Kaberle are money together
Klee and Berg are shutting down opponents top lines
Pilar (good enough to play top 4, and is currently playing on our 1st pp unit) and Marchment are a solid bottom pairing. Both of which can land HUGE hits without notice, thats a very underrated part of pilar's play

you say a top four d-man could do it...and i agree. but won't any solid top 4 d-man take a significant asset away from the leafs? how can you get one without giving up the other? again, just asking honest questions.