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01-21-2007, 07:01 PM
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Brodziak Had Better Get A Call From Edmonton And SOON!!!

This guy has been our best forward in the AHL, he's consistent, he's been great on the PK, he leads all of our WBS prospects in games played, goals, assists, points, shots, PIM, ES goal scoring, ES assists, ES points, SH goals, SH assists, and SH points, and to top it all off also in +/-. So why in the hell hasn't he been given a shot yet??? Are Thoresen, Winchester, and Petersen so damned great that the guy can't even get a damn look in Edmonton??? Newsflash, our team has been struggling, yet we have a guy that gives his all on every shift, is responsible, and has been playing great in WBS. Yet he still sits and waits in the AHL. Give the guy a damn shot, he deserves it just as much as Mathieu Roy did.

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Give the damn kid a shot already!!!

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01-21-2007, 07:08 PM
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This guy has been our best forward in the AHL, he's consistent, he's been great on the PK, he leads all of our WBS prospects in games played, goals, assists, points, shots, PIM, ES goal scoring, ES assists, ES points, SH goals, SH assists, and SH points, and to top it all off also in +/-. So why in the hell hasn't he been given a shot yet??? Are Thoresen, Winchester, and Petersen so damned great that the guy can't even get a damn look in Edmonton??? Newsflash, our team has been struggling, yet we have a guy that gives his all on every shift, is responsible, and has been playing great in WBS. Yet he still sits and waits in the AHL. Give the guy a damn shot, he deserves it just as much as Mathieu Roy did.

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Give the damn kid a shot already!!!
I actually didn't think that Brodziak looked out of place last year when he got the call up. IMO he probably did better than Chicken or JFJ.

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yeah i dont understand why he hasnt been given a shot yet.... im wondering if the coaching staff knows something that we dont

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01-21-2007, 07:20 PM
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Last year Mac said that he liked him and didn't look out of place at all, and that was when he wasn't producing much. Now that he has added the offensive part of him game to go along with being defensively sounds I'm also wondering what is the hold up.


Smyth Brodziak Fernie- Just try and match the work ethic of this line. They would be the best line cycling the puck and and owning the boards in the NHL. Brodziak is a Fernie clone and I think he and Fernie could feed off eachother.

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I'd rather give him a shot than force feeding Petersen ice time.

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I'd rather give him a shot than force feeding Petersen ice time.
I agree Brodziak deserves a shot, however I don't think it should be at the expense of Petersen. I don't think has really hurt the oilers, some nights he is one of our better forwards IMO.


Wow, I think petersen is good, but he in now way should be one of our top forwards. Kinda says a lot for the other oil forwards right now. Maybe Mac-t and Lowe shoud sit one of our marquee guys to send a much needed message?

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I agree Brodziak deserves a shot, however I don't think it should be at the expense of Petersen. I don't think has really hurt the oilers, some nights he is one of our better forwards IMO.
Edmonton doesnt need players that "dont hurt them", they need players that can help them.

Sure Toby can play his 14 minutes and not hurt us (-5), but he also doesn't help us either. He is on pace for 14 points in 66 games. This is a time when we need a spark, someone to step up and Toby had his chance and he didn't take it. Toby may hold us over, or fill a hole, but he has no impact either. You won't even notice if Toby is taken out of the lineup, and Brodziak probably wont make much difference, but then again, he might. We already know have we have from Petersen- Someone who tries not to mess up. Petersen doesn't try and make plays he just makes sure he doesnt screw up.
Lets give Brodziak a chance and see if he can make some plays. It might work it might not but atleast a chance of success instead of jockeying with Peteren. Lets give someone a chance that will try and make plays not just try and not screw up.

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Edmonton doesnt need players that "dont hurt them", they need players that can help them.

Sure Toby can play his 14 minutes and not hurt us (-5), but he also doesn't help us either. He is on pace for 14 points in 66 games. This is a time when we need a spark, someone to step up and Toby had his chance and he didn't take it. Toby may hold us over, or fill a hole, but he has no impact either. You won't even notice if Toby is taken out of the lineup, and Brodziak probably wont make much difference, but then again, he might. We already know have we have from Petersen- Someone who tries not to mess up. Petersen doesn't try and make plays he just makes sure he doesnt screw up.
Lets give Brodziak a chance and see if he can make some plays. It might work it might not but atleast a chance of success instead of jockeying with Peteren. Lets give someone a chance that will try and make plays not just try and not screw up.
I totally agree man, but if were gonna sit someone my first choice probably would not be petersen.

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I agree Brodziak deserves a shot, however I don't think it should be at the expense of Petersen. I don't think has really hurt the oilers, some nights he is one of our better forwards IMO.
Peterson brings nothing to a club already stacked with "solid two way" forwards. And Peterson isn't even that. He is a good backchecker with no offensive flair whatsoever. I would much rather see Schremp up here and be -10 after 10 games but with 5 goals scored and 10 points for, than Peterson do dick every night and continue to have a roster spot.

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Peterson brings nothing to a club already stacked with "solid two way" forwards. And Peterson isn't even that. He is a good backchecker with no offensive flair whatsoever. I would much rather see Schremp up here and be -10 after 10 games but with 5 goals scored and 10 points for, than Peterson do dick every night and continue to have a roster spot.
That would mean more losses, I don't think we should aim at getting more goals at the expense of fewer wins.

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I wonder what we don't know in this situation... it's gotta be something, cause Brodziak seems like an obvious choice to get called up, especially when Smyth and Hemmer went down. Maybe the Oilers are really trying to get a real evaluation of what they have in thier system to know which assets they can use in trades? Maybe they know already that Brodziak is someone they want to bring up on a permanent basis, and they're just trying to see what else they have.

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I wonder what we don't know in this situation... it's gotta be something, cause Brodziak seems like an obvious choice to get called up, especially when Smyth and Hemmer went down. Maybe the Oilers are really trying to get a real evaluation of what they have in thier system to know which assets they can use in trades? Maybe they know already that Brodziak is someone they want to bring up on a permanent basis, and they're just trying to see what else they have.
It could be that the projected ceiling for Brodziak's talent is a 4th line centre, and players with higher projected ceilings get to play first. Also doesn't help that he plays a position in which the Oilers are deep in talent right now, along with the waiver pickup of Nedved.

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Maybe their waiting to give him a shot next season so he can win the Calder?

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That would mean more losses, I don't think we should aim at getting more goals at the expense of fewer wins.
Not necessarily, as Schremp's -10 would come at ES, as +/- does not count on special teams. So his 10 points, if PP time counted, would basically have him coming out even. That is assuming the majority of his points came on the PP.
Still, rather than trying to teach an old dog new tricks, let Schremp/Brodz/Pouliot learn at the NHL level, take their licks, and get playing time in a year when, lets be honest, we aren't threatening to do much.

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It could be that the projected ceiling for Brodziak's talent is a 4th line centre, and players with higher projected ceilings get to play first. Also doesn't help that he plays a position in which the Oilers are deep in talent right now, along with the waiver pickup of Nedved.
Projections are nice, but when you look at Brodziak's output this year, you have to question them. What was Stoll projected to be? I think he's already disproven the projections for him. As for so many centres on the Oilers, that's a strength IMO not a problem. Wing is the easiest position to play, and having 2 natural centres on a line is a positive. If your reg C gets thrown out of a faceoff, you have a backup on the ice, and if a C goes down, you plug in a guy who is a natural at the position, which is harder for a winger to fill.

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I think Brodziak projects to be a Fernando Pisani playing center. Even when he was in junior he was a top notch penalty killer and hard skater. He's showing a lot more offense this season. He deserves a call-up if for no other reason because it reinforces his play in WB. Thus far it's been very hard to differentiate any of the players the Oilers have called up this season: Petersen, Thoresen, Jacques, Pouliot, Stortini...I suppose you can say Petersen and Thoresen are the safest, Stortini the most willing to mix it up physically and Pouliot and Jacques the most underwhelming.

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A question can he play wing?? If he can he should have gotten the call, if he cant, i dont know how you can expect him to. Our depth at centre is deep as hell: Horcoff, Stoll, Reasoner, Sykora. Who does he substitute??

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A question can he paly wing?? If he can he should have gotten the call, if he cant, i dont know how you can expect him to. Our depth at centre is deep as hell: Horcoff, Stoll, Reasoner, Sykora. Who does he substitute??
Any center can play the wing. Not every winger can play center.

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I'm a big fan of Kyle but for some reason I don't really care if he gets called up or not this season. I'd rather see him stay down in the ahl, stay in his groove and develop his scoring a bit more than see him go back and forth between the ahl and nhl while sitting/playing 6 mins a game with the Oil.

He's set to play a major role in the ahl playoffs if he stays hot, that's a good developmental year for him imo.

Petersen, love him or hate him, played a whole ahl season last year at the level Kyle has just reached this season. To say that Kyle's likely to be as good or better than Toby at the nhl level this year is pure idle speculation.

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does he have to clear waivers when he gets called up like Labarbara of LA?

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does he have to clear waivers when he gets called up like Labarbara of LA?
No. Unless you're a 4th year pro, or have played 180 NHL games as a skater you don't have to clear waivers. Brodziak can be recalled at any time as long as there's roster space.

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I'm pretty sure that the problem with this team isn't its spare parts. Read: our "top 6" forwards need to produce, our D needs to tighten up and Roli needs to pick it up.

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Stats in the AHL mean nothing.

Travis Roche was an allstar d-man, and "Man of the Year" in the AHL. But even Atlanta wouldn't give him a shot, now he breaks in half point in the season for Phoenix and gathers points up like nothing.

He's still half ******** if it comes to clearing the front of his net, or backchecking, let alone skating backwards.

Torres and Stoll, correct me if I'm wrong, put up more points in the NHL the next season than they did in the AHL as Roadrunners.... missing the playoffs. One year later, they're in the Stanley Cup Finals.

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Peterson brings nothing to a club already stacked with "solid two way" forwards. And Peterson isn't even that. He is a good backchecker with no offensive flair whatsoever. I would much rather see Schremp up here and be -10 after 10 games but with 5 goals scored and 10 points for, than Peterson do dick every night and continue to have a roster spot.
I completly agree. As of Saturday night Toby was on our #1 power play unit, #1 penalty killing unit & played a regular shift throughout the game. When TOBY PETERSON becomes your "go to guy" it may be an induction that your team is horrible or your coaching staff has no clue what there doing anymore and should be out the door.

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Not necessarily, as Schremp's -10 would come at ES, as +/- does not count on special teams. So his 10 points, if PP time counted, would basically have him coming out even. That is assuming the majority of his points came on the PP.
Still, rather than trying to teach an old dog new tricks, let Schremp/Brodz/Pouliot learn at the NHL level, take their licks, and get playing time in a year when, lets be honest, we aren't threatening to do much.
So he's going to average 1 ppg in the NHL after not being able to do it in the AHL?

Does this only baffle me?

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