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12-14-2003, 11:45 AM
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Miracle : The movie trailer is out... Great string in it.

Hey Guys,

The story of herb brooks and the miracle of the USA winning the gold medals is gonna be release by disney next year.

You can go watch the trailer on apple.com


But what catch my attention is that phrase... which should be the new moto of the habs...

" It's what's in front of the sweater that count... not what behind "

Too hot ..

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Hey Guys,

The story of herb brooks and the miracle of the USA winning the gold medals is gonna be release by disney next year.

You can go watch the trailer on apple.com


But what catch my attention is that phrase... which should be the new moto of the habs...

" It's what's in front of the sweater that count... not what behind "

Too hot ..

what would have been better than the mirical on ice, is a movie about the summit series. oh i wonder who they would have play all the canadian greats. wow i could just imagine

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u know, i gotta add this....im getting kinda sick of those movies these americans keep making...theyre total propaganda. like come on man, the miracle on ice? first of all it was NOT a miracle, and second i hate how they always seem to make life black and white. the americans are the good doer underdog hockey players who have to beat the big bad evil russians...oh come on people! if u bite this one, im afraid that were getting closer and closer to being just like them....oh god, someone stop paul martin...

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u know, i gotta add this....im getting kinda sick of those movies these americans keep making...theyre total propaganda. like come on man, the miracle on ice? first of all it was NOT a miracle, and second i hate how they always seem to make life black and white. the americans are the good doer underdog hockey players who have to beat the big bad evil russians...oh come on people! if u bite this one, im afraid that were getting closer and closer to being just like them....oh god, someone stop paul martin...
I went to see a movie last week and the preview played... they said the greatest moment in sports history haha... oh how I laughed.

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I went to see a movie last week and the preview played... they said the greatest moment in sports history haha... oh how I laughed.

man, totally unrelated, but i LOVE ur avatar...i finally randomly got where it was from. family guy kicks so much ass...the evil monkey in my closet...lol, man i laughed so hard, especially when it clicked with ur avatar

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man, totally unrelated, but i LOVE ur avatar...i finally randomly got where it was from. family guy kicks so much ass...the evil monkey in my closet...lol, man i laughed so hard, especially when it clicked with ur avatar
Good news is they are putting together a news season which should start in early 2005.

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Good news is they are putting together a news season which should start in early 2005.
WITH a movie!!

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Greatest moment in sports history my ass!

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Wow, you guys don't miss a chance to bash Americans do you...way to stereotype!

The "Miracle on Ice" wasn't just about the game, it was about where our country was at the time.

We were still involved in a Cold War with Russia, our economy was in a recession, and we were in the middle of the Iran Hostage Crisis. The team AND the game united a country.

The "Miracle on Ice" WAS a miracle-the Soviets hadn't lost an Olympic hockey game since 1968, the U.S. had lost an exhibition game to the Soviets 10-3 right before the Games started, and the U.S. team was formed of college players.

The "Miracle on Ice" also spurred the expansion and development of hockey (especially youth hockey) in the U.S.
Technically, you can thank the "Miracle on Ice" for your beloved Komisarek and Higgins (I'm sure there are others).

And, btw, the correct quote is, "You’re looking for players whose name on the front of the sweater is more important than the one on the back."

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Wow, you guys don't miss a chance to bash Americans do you...way to stereotype!

The "Miracle on Ice" wasn't just about the game, it was about where our country was at the time.

We were still involved in a Cold War with Russia, our economy was in a recession, and we were in the middle of the Iran Hostage Crisis. The team AND the game united a country.
Wow... This thread just died quickly! Time for Necrophile to step in now...

Nevertheless, while your rebuttal is well thought-out and politely spiteful, you perhaps - just an assumption - fail to understand the complex dynamics of the Canadian-American relationship... at least from the Canadian perspective.

Perhaps we didn't pass up on an easy opportunity to bash Americans - so what?

The fact that you should even make mention of such a sillyness as the aforementionned "recession" constitutes a satisfactory display of the dubiousness of American thought. After all, having a minute percentage of American men and women without jobs is truly a crisis of epic proportions. This is especially true when we consider the reality of life outside of your America.

OK, I should stop writing now... Too bad this isn't a political forum...

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The "Miracle on Ice" also spurred the expansion and development of hockey (especially youth hockey) in the U.S.
Technically, you can thank the "Miracle on Ice" for your beloved Komisarek and Higgins (I'm sure there are others).
Mayhap, fellow hockey fan. But perhaps this miracle on ice forgot to get American sports fans excited enough to keep attending their local NHL teams' games. It's gotten to where teams like the FLORIDA Panthers have to list a 15,000 fan attendance to save face, while only having about 5,000-10,000 people actually show up for the game?

And by the way, they call Detroit Hockeytown? That excessively bold statement is false in so many ways... Which team had the best attendance record in the entire NHL last season? Montreal. And despite the fact that the Habs missed the playoffs... again! The team couldn't even put up a decent show on the ice, and yet could still manage - without any superstar ticket-seller - to attract more people to its games than any other team in the league? Oh and hockey is the number (7?) sport in US TV ratings? That's sad...

Oh well, I'm sure I have other things to say, but lack of sleep has finally caught up to me.

Sans rancune, ma chère.


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ok, here i must disgress upon the perception of what a miracle is. a miracle is not winning a hockey tournament, and i have the feeling that the americans are trying to spark something with the russians more than anything else now....a miracle is an act of God, something unexplainable, some impossible physically. winning a hockey game with a bunch of college kids was not a miracle, it was just a matter of work ethic, team unity and effort. the russians prolly had gotten cocky and never expected a bunch of kids to win the game. and as for uniting the country? HA! ya right! it seems that only war unites that country....and i remember something else too, i saw a book about micheal jordan a couple years back, where he is classified as a "real american hero"...what a twisted perception of what a hero means...how does playing basketball make u a hero? last time i checked, a hero was someone who sacrified/risked his life to save many, dont see how dunking a b-ball makes u do that...so all im saying as that americans are pretty good at making movies that the rest of the world see as just another attempt at them being cocky. it's certainly not winning them any favors...

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ok, here i must disgress upon the perception of what a miracle is. a miracle is not winning a hockey tournament, and i have the feeling that the americans are trying to spark something with the russians more than anything else now....a miracle is an act of God, something unexplainable, some impossible physically. winning a hockey game with a bunch of college kids was not a miracle, it was just a matter of work ethic, team unity and effort. the russians prolly had gotten cocky and never expected a bunch of kids to win the game. and as for uniting the country? HA! ya right! it seems that only war unites that country....and i remember something else too, i saw a book about micheal jordan a couple years back, where he is classified as a "real american hero"...what a twisted perception of what a hero means...how does playing basketball make u a hero? last time i checked, a hero was someone who sacrified/risked his life to save many, dont see how dunking a b-ball makes u do that...so all im saying as that americans are pretty good at making movies that the rest of the world see as just another attempt at them being cocky. it's certainly not winning them any favors...
Heck Poland already won a hockey game in a tournament against the Russians. That is alot more of a miracle. It's true however that the Russians drank all the vodka in town the night before but that would have never stopped the Poles The Russians were sure of the win and that's what happened. Not the first time in history

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man, totally unrelated, but i LOVE ur avatar...i finally randomly got where it was from. family guy kicks so much ass...the evil monkey in my closet...lol, man i laughed so hard, especially when it clicked with ur avatar
Gotta love the monkey! I hope the show gets picked up again by fox or something.. I need more episodes! The will make another show though, it'S called American Dad i think. I will a gay goldfish with a french accent I think.

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Why are Americans always characterized as cocky, greedy, arrogant, etc.? Do you guys watch the news and think that the people you see-George Bush, Wall Street brokers, the ignoramuses who just want attention-represent Joe Everyman???

Come on! By doing that, you're being just as "cocky" as we supposedly are. Furthermore, you'd be surprised at the level of social consciousness in America - especially among America's youth. Just because it doesn't get a lot of press doesn't mean it doesn't exist. For a lot of people, despite the stereotype, money is NOT everything. We know that many others have it a lot worse than we do. I'm reminded of that everytime I walk through Boston and see all the panhandlers.

Maybe you ought to consider the reality of life outside YOUR country. Yes, you live in a socialist society, and everyone has free access to healthcare...congratulations! That's a great thing (and actually, MA is trying to do the same).

The way your society is run, however, does NOT give you the right to look down on the U.S. That type of atmosphere is what you know-of course you think it's the "right" way. People claim the U.S. thinks it's "superior"-well, from your post it seems like you think Canada is. Yet, in your case, it's allowable but, in our case, it's typical "American" behavior.

I'd like to know how many of you U.S. bashers have actually spent time (and I mean longer than a week's vacation in California or Florida) in our country. Notice how I haven't bashed Canada. I'm not an expert on your country, nor will I pretend to be one. I don't think I'm in any position to stereotype an entire country. That's not my place. (Hint, hint.) I'm not trying to start a U.S. vs. Canada debate, I just hope you guys will be a little more open-minded. Don't bash America just to bash America.

Back to the "Miracle" debate...

One of you claims a miracle is only an act of God.
Here's a dictionary definition:

"Main Entry: mir·a·cle
Pronunciation: 'mir-i-k&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin miraculum, from Latin, a wonder, marvel, from mirari to wonder at
Date: 12th century
1 : an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs
2 : an extremely outstanding or unusual event, thing, or accomplishment
3 Christian Science : a divinely natural phenomenon experienced humanly as the fulfillment of spiritual law"
(From Merriam-Webster's)

I'd say number 2 confirms the "Miracle on Ice" WAS a miracle.


Shaolin, a production company makes a movie about the "Miracle on Ice" and suddenly we're trying to start something with the Russians???
Relax with the conspiracy theories. Yeah, I can imagine the President on the phone, "Hello Mr. Hollywood Producer, I want to start something with the Russians, so let's make a movie about the 'Miracle on Ice.' That will really get those Ruskies going."
Come on, man. If we wanted to start something, we'd have the CIA or NSA plant things. (On the other hand, I think Russia is perfectly capable of starting things all by itself. Have ppl forgotten that Putin was in the KGB!!??)

Only war unites us? That's a good one. Maybe it did in the days of WWI and WWII, but not anymore. War DIVIDES us-it has since Vietnam. TRAGEDY unites us, but I have seen too many protests over the current war to be able to agree with your incorrect and unfounded assessment.

On to your Michael Jordan argument. Whoever wrote the book or reviewed it called him "a real American hero." Good for them. I don't think there's a certain American who decides who is a real American hero and who isn't. Whoever claimed that was just trying to promote the book. I bet the majority of Americans would not term Jordan a hero.

On to Necrophile...
Ok, Florida is a sub-tropical climate! Of course interest in hockey isn't going to be high. The kids don't grow up playing hockey there-they grow up playing water sports. I bet if Canada had a sub-tropical region, hockey wouldn't be popular there either.

As for calling Detroit "Hockeytown," I think they gave themselves that moniker. I can't stand the Wings, and I've never ever referred to Detroit by that name.

Yeah, hockey is the number 7 sport, but how is that relevant? That doesn't diminish the magnitude of the accomplishment of the 1980 men's Olympic hockey team. Yes, hockey isn't the most popular sport, but the "Miracle" DID advance youth hockey programs in the U.S.

You mention the "complex dynamics of the Canadian-American relationship." Those dynamics are...???
Seems like you think they have to do with mutual and unfounded stereotyping.

I'm not trying to start something, but I'm getting just a little sick of the U.S. being characterized as the "bad guy." I don't think you guys know what life is America is really like.

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u know, i gotta add this....im getting kinda sick of those movies these americans keep making...theyre total propaganda. like come on man, the miracle on ice? first of all it was NOT a miracle, and second i hate how they always seem to make life black and white. the americans are the good doer underdog hockey players who have to beat the big bad evil russians...oh come on people! if u bite this one, im afraid that were getting closer and closer to being just like them....oh god, someone stop paul martin...


the miracle is that people from other country are going to see the movie .The miracle of the $$$$$$ to make big pub .

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I'm not trying to start something, but I'm getting just a little sick of the U.S. being characterized as the "bad guy." I don't think you guys know what life is America is really like.
It's more of the comment in the trailer "The Greatest Moment in Sports History" that makes me want to gag. I have nothing against americans except your president. But I just think that in Hollywood they always kinda portray the USA as always the hero, always the good(usa) against evil(other countries). They just exagerate so much, wo when a outsider looks at those movie, it makes them feel like the americans are self-centered. It's not the people per say, just the image they portray in the movies.. anyway that's my opinion.

ps: I went to NJ last year, and i'm going again this year, and i've never seen so much food at restaurants... how the the hell do you guys eat so much. My grilled-cheese had like 6 slices of cheese and was almost larger than the plate... Next time I got there, im bringing a ton of Tums.

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Why are Americans always characterized as cocky, greedy, arrogant, etc.?
Don't want to start a war over this because it's a hockey board but yes some americains are like that ... a lot of them.

Last summer I did a complete roadtrip from Montreal to New Orleans to Los Angeles to San Francisco and return to chicago and Detroit.

I have seen and deal with a lot of persons and most of them where cocky and arrogant.

Most of them didn't know that Canada was a country or where it was. A lady at the beerstore was unable to certify our ages since our ID Cards where in FRENCH... Doohhh Since I am french I am surely born on the 77 days of September 1907 ?????

Even 2 girls from Boston, yes Boston (5 hours drive from canada) I meet at a Buffalo Bills game where tinking that Montreal was a city of lust with ***** on everycorner and those frenchies where trapping the good english men to get all their cash.. jumping on them.

I must admit that a lot of youngster are changing the typical idea we have of americans and this can only be for good.

my 2 canadian cents (1.50 US cents)

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Wow, you guys don't miss a chance to bash Americans do you...way to stereotype!

The "Miracle on Ice" wasn't just about the game, it was about where our country was at the time.

We were still involved in a Cold War with Russia,
Hey now...I agree with some of what you say... but lets not go overboard. The Cold War was long....... before this Olympic series.

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The "Miracle on Ice" WAS a miracle-the Soviets hadn't lost an Olympic hockey game since 1968, the U.S. had lost an exhibition game to the Soviets 10-3 right before the Games started, and the U.S. team was formed of college players.
It certainly was a miracle, and very deserving of the name.

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The "Miracle on Ice" also spurred the expansion and development of hockey (especially youth hockey) in the U.S.
Technically, you can thank the "Miracle on Ice" for your beloved Komisarek and Higgins (I'm sure there are others).
It did do this, to a point, but it effected players like Roenick..Amonte..and some of the older people around the league. Most expansion for the game can be linked back to Gretzky's trade to LA.

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And, btw, the correct quote is, "You’re looking for players whose name on the front of the sweater is more important than the one on the back."
Yes, and what a brilliant saying it is. See? Not all of us Canucks bash America.

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I didn't mean to imply that ALL Canadians bash Americans-sorry if you guys took it that way. (And, btw, I didn't refer to you as Canucks...)

Habs-the Cold War lasted until the late eighties (and some say 1991).
http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_.../Cold_War.html

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