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01-26-2007, 01:01 PM
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Lines at Practice

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J. Ward - Nylander - Jagr

Hossa - Betts - Shanahan

Prucha - Cullen - Ortmeyer

Hollweg - Krog - Adam Hall

This is just disturbing.


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01-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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Makes sense...

Prior to the last game Renney touted how great Krog was offensively and that he played with great offensive players this season (Marion Hossa) and after that one game Krog is on the fourth line. Would honestly rather see Cullen as the second line centerman if my choice is Cullen or Betts.

And honestly, while people are down on Hall, he's still better offensively than Ortmeyer.

Where's Straka? Does this mean if Straka's in then J. Ward sits?

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01-26-2007, 01:08 PM
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J. Ward - Nylander - Jagr

Hossa - Betts - Shanahan

Prucha - Cullen - Ortmeyer

Hollweg - Krog - Adam Hall

This is just disturbing.






Oh for the love of everything holy STOP USING CHECKING LINE PLAYERS OUT OF THEIR POSITIONS #%*)(#%*)(% U#*IU OIIUJ IOVJR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....and where's Straka?

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Not sure what's disturbing about it - Straka might be out. Oh wait, the Prucha scoring machine should be on the top line.

Girardi for Pck might be more disturbing.

Let the drama begin.

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Disturbing is an understatement..

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how the HELL does j.ward go from healthy scratch to first line winger? HOW?! Just because Jagr likes to play with him doesn't mean he's any better now than he was when scratched. Seriously, throw Prucha up there, or Hossa if you still hate Prucha.

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ughhhhh is all i have to say...

read sams blog, you will lose your lunch.

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01-26-2007, 01:16 PM
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Not sure what's disturbing about it - Straka might be out. Oh wait, the Prucha scoring machine should be on the top line.

Girardi for Pck might be more disturbing.

Let the drama begin.


Well, if you guys went to the link, you would see Straka is sick.

And this is VERY disturbing.

I could care less if Prucha is on the first line or not. We KNOW he can;t score with Cullen so the third line is useless. That second line will spend half the time they are on the ice chasing the puck and the other half cycling in the offensive zone and losing the puck. The first line with Ward has not worked when they tried it before, why now?

and that fourth line should just not even dress.

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Oh for the love of everything holy STOP USING CHECKING LINE PLAYERS OUT OF THEIR POSITIONS #%*)(#%*)(% U#*IU OIIUJ IOVJR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ....and where's Straka?
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Martin Straka is still out with some sort of flu and will not be traveling with the Rangers to Philadelphia when the team flies out at 3 p.m. There is a chance hell join the team tonight, but as Tom Renney said, the left wing right now is hour-to-hour.
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If Straka's hurt...

I'd actually throw Shanny up there and see if he can find his touch and move Hossa to Cullen's right. And juggle from there. Little sense having Shanny play with Betts (although I get the sense we will see a goal (or goals) from Shanny shortly no matter who he plays with because he's been rested).

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J. Ward - Nylander - Jagr

Hossa - Betts - Shanahan

Prucha - Cullen - Ortmeyer

Hollweg - Krog - Adam Hall

This is just disturbing.

Honestly, the thing that disturbs me more than ANYTHING about Renney this year is his love affair with Betts. Why the **** is he at 2nd line center? If you move him down and put Cullen (or even Ward!) there, the lines aren't nearly as horrible. Yes, Prucha's out of position, but that's one winger debatably flip-flopped as opposed to all four lines out of whack.

They darn well better be playing the Krogs in this lineup as placeholders for the kids while they look to squeeze out assets from other teams for Hall, Ward et. al. But if this keeps up, they've GOT to bite the bullet and start waiving people.

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01-26-2007, 01:30 PM
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- I guess with Straka possibly out, using Prucha, or even Shanny, with Jagr/Nylander would make too much sense for Renney...

- J. Ward on the 1st line has never worked, but here we go again...his talent level is much closer to "healthy scratch" than it is "1st liner"...

- Betts on the 2nd line has never worked, but here we go again...

- Betts/Hossa as Shanny's linemates was one of the worst decisions Renney has made all year (and that's saying a lot), but here we go again...

- what has Hossa done this year as a 2nd liner (or even in the past 2 years) to justify Renney "rewarding" him with 2nd line ice time?

basically it's the same type of mismatched lineup that we saw during the 1st half of the season with all the same faces...but I guess according to Renney and management, why mess with success?

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01-26-2007, 01:31 PM
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What should have happened (besides the callup which unfortunately didnt) is that renney should have considered this all star break a fresh start and at least tried to reassemble Prucha Cullen and Shanny. If Straka is sick what's the harm of throwing Dubi in there for one game against a last place team? Why are Hollo and Ortmeyer seperated? Why is Pock sitting?

im gonnna have a stroke im so mad at this team. Shanny deserves a better fate.

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You would think renney would try a clean slate after the all-star break. Ya know since the guys are a bit rested. If Straka is out for the game...then WHY would you put JASON WARD on the top line.

I can see Jags giving his opinion during the game, and Prucha moving up to the top line with them after a bit.

This team is really getting irritating with the way everything is being handled.

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im gonnna have a stroke im so mad at this team. Shanny deserves a better fate.[/QUOTE]









What I love in that blog is the talk about the ongoing issue of Shanny and Jagr not seeing eye to eye with the powerplay...I don't care how much Jagr's done for this team Shanny has a point when he says that they need to change something if they aren't getting results.

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What exactly is the justification for these lines? How does J. Ward move from a healthy scratch to the first line? How has the play of Betts or Hossa justified 2nd line time? I do not believe anyone in Hartford will turn us into cup contenders, but it is laughable that Maloney and Renney won't bring up the kids because they do not believe they can get these young kids the playing time they need. Does management really believe that waiving a J. Ward or C. Orr will really be detrimental in the short term or long term to this team's success?

I also cannot understand the sitting of Pock. I applaued the team for calling up Girardi and giving him a shot, but it amazes me that a team this average can only make room for one young player per game. We are not a first place team and we do not owe a debt of gratitude to a Malik Rachunek or Ward to keep them in the line-up through their struggles. This has to kill Pock's confidence in his game, to have come in and played decently well, certainly one of the better 3 defenseman in the last few games, and be uncerimoniously kicked to the curb for an AHLer while those who have played worse than him continue to get a free pass.

I am completely in awe of the management of this team. There never seems to be any rhyme or reason to what they do, they just keep their heads in the sand and pretend everything is going as planned. Unreal.

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01-26-2007, 01:43 PM
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HOW THE **** DID WE GO FROM RACHUNEK SITTING TO NOW POCK SITTING?


DID ****ING SATHER MAKE A LAST MINUTE CALL TO RENNEY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE HAPPEN?????????????

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01-26-2007, 01:49 PM
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i think there was some stomach virus going around. most likely this mean J.Ward sits when Straka recovers (surely by Sunday) and if not, there will be more mish mash on the fly "coaching" much to Shanny's dismay.

I hope both Pock and Girardi play and that Renney puts Prucha on the 1st PP unit with the rest of the Czechs (Nylander is honorary Czech). Then they could have a N.American style PP Shanny, Cullen, and Hossa cycling and exposing the slot. Girardi, Pock, Rachunek playing the point (all three at once. no bozo, take your pick)

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If these are the combinations that we can expect the rest of the way, we are done for.

This is pathetic, we have one 4th liner on the top line, two 4th liners on the 2nd line, one 2nd liner, one 3rd liner and one 4th liner on the 3rd line, and on the 4th line we have a two 4th liners and a player that can't stick on any team he's played on.

This team is so shallow and pathetic management really makes it hard to be a fan.


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01-26-2007, 02:09 PM
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This isn't the best team in the world, but RENNEY is doing a FUBAR on it....I don't care if Straka is out, these lines are absolutley pathetic...

A 4th line scrub like Ward instead of Prucha on the 1st line? Shanny saddled with TWO 4th line losers in Betts and Hossa on the 2nd line? Crappy Krog anywhere in the line-up?....No HBO line? No energy line?...No banging line?...Same old crap....And it's all in Renney's lap..This team could be so much better...

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You would think renney would try a clean slate after the all-star break. Ya know since the guys are a bit rested. If Straka is out for the game...then WHY would you put JASON WARD on the top line.

I can see Jags giving his opinion during the game, and Prucha moving up to the top line with them after a bit.

This team is really getting irritating with the way everything is being handled.
actually jagr has asked for ward to be on his line before... like when nylander was hurt, so i dont think this is so much renney as it is jagr wanting him there

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actually jagr has asked for ward to be on his line before... like when nylander was hurt, so i dont think this is so much renney as it is jagr wanting him there
I'm sorry, but if it's Renney allowing Jagr to run the ship then it is Renney's responsibility for what happens to this team.

I don't care who makes Jagr happy.

4th line scrubs do not belong on the third line.

They don't belong on the 2nd line and they sure as poop do not belong on the top line.

Renney is proving more and more why no one hired him as a coach after Vancouver.

unbeliveable

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actually jagr has asked for ward to be on his line before... like when nylander was hurt, so i dont think this is so much renney as it is jagr wanting him there









Wouldn't be the first time Jagr wanted something that suited himself over the team..Let's see him make Ward look good if he wants him there so badly..

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Part of me feels that it doesn't even really matter what the lines are, because they've been ineffective regardless of who's playing where.

Really, until the Rangers can find a 2nd line center somewhere, the lines are just going to be ugly...

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Part of me feels that it doesn't even really matter what the lines are, because they've been ineffective regardless of who's playing where.

Really, until the Rangers can find a 2nd line center somewhere, the lines are just going to be ugly...




::::cough cough::: Nylander/Straka/Jagr....Prucha/Immonen/Shanahan...Cullen-Betts-Hossa....Dawes-Dubinsky-Callahan....:::cough::: (JMHO)

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